Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

I am Tosk wrote:
In article 87be94c0-d6dc-432a-823e-982e7358d360
@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 30, 4:04 pm, Harry wrote:
On 1/30/10 3:47 PM, Tim wrote:





I'm looking at another boat. A 19 ft bowrider trihull. the boat
itself is in great condition but the 100 hp. v-4 Evinrude has ow
compression on one cyl. they burned up a starter trying to get it
running. they got a starter put on and found out one cycl. is low.
Didn't say how low, but it's still not up with the other 3. They were
thinking on fixing it, but decided to get another boat and so they're
wanting to sell this one. Cheap! i mean, the lower end on the engine
is probably what they want for the whole thing... Cheap!
I know that that to repair the engine is going to cost something. It
could be anything from a bad ring to a scored piston and cylinder. ,
But I'm not too worried about it because I have a 115 v-4 in my garage
with a one year old power head. But I'd rather see how bad the engine
actually is before I swapped it out. If a cylinder is scored that's
one thing, but if it needs a piston and/or rings that's another.
I don't know much about the v-4's but can you pull a piston without
having pull the flywheel and split the casings etc?
The engine is a 1979 Evinrude Javilin squared hood.
just curious.
If you look on this site, assuming the URL works:

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index....f41179a6c0e561...

You're see an exploded view of that powerhead.

I don't see how you can remove a piston without splitting the casings.
How would you get to the wrist pin?

Here's the piston drawing:

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index....79a6c0e561...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Why in hell would you need to get to the wrist pin until you got the
piston/rod assembly out, dumb ass? Standard procedu unbolt the rod
from the crankshaft, push the pistion/rod assembly out. That simple.

Harrys answer only adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet
again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

Harry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:
In article 87be94c0-d6dc-432a-823e-982e7358d360
@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 30, 4:04 pm, Harry wrote:
On 1/30/10 3:47 PM, Tim wrote:





I'm looking at another boat. A 19 ft bowrider trihull. the boat
itself is in great condition but the 100 hp. v-4 Evinrude has ow
compression on one cyl. they burned up a starter trying to get it
running. they got a starter put on and found out one cycl. is low.
Didn't say how low, but it's still not up with the other 3. They were
thinking on fixing it, but decided to get another boat and so they're
wanting to sell this one. Cheap! i mean, the lower end on the engine
is probably what they want for the whole thing... Cheap!
I know that that to repair the engine is going to cost something. It
could be anything from a bad ring to a scored piston and cylinder. ,
But I'm not too worried about it because I have a 115 v-4 in my garage
with a one year old power head. But I'd rather see how bad the engine
actually is before I swapped it out. If a cylinder is scored that's
one thing, but if it needs a piston and/or rings that's another.
I don't know much about the v-4's but can you pull a piston without
having pull the flywheel and split the casings etc?
The engine is a 1979 Evinrude Javilin squared hood.
just curious.
If you look on this site, assuming the URL works:

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index....f41179a6c0e561...


You're see an exploded view of that powerhead.

I don't see how you can remove a piston without splitting the casings.
How would you get to the wrist pin?

Here's the piston drawing:

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index....79a6c0e561...-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Why in hell would you need to get to the wrist pin until you got the
piston/rod assembly out, dumb ass? Standard procedu unbolt the rod
from the crankshaft, push the pistion/rod assembly out. That simple.

Harrys answer only adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

Don't be stupid. Everybody knows when it's me playing Harry.
Only works to screw up the newsgroup for everybody else.
But it makes me feel strong, and that's what's important.
Hey, who said Harry has a corner on the narcissism market?
Bull.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

On 2/1/2010 7:58 AM, Harry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:

nly adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

If you think it is hard to tell the Harry's apart, how about that ass
hole who is spoofing my ID. His spelling and syntax errors remind me of
half my posts. I have to go back to my send folder to see if it is me
or that ass hole.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

Don White wrote:
On 2/1/2010 7:58 AM, Harry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:

nly adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet
again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

If you think it is hard to tell the Harry's apart, how about that ass
hole who is spoofing my ID. His spelling and syntax errors remind me of
half my posts. I have to go back to my send folder to see if it is me
or that ass hole.

You got that right. Anyone who would spoof my little buddy has to be an
ass hole rivaling the great WAFA.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

On 2/1/2010 9:30 AM, Harry wrote:
Don White wrote:
On 2/1/2010 7:58 AM, Harry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:

nly adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet
again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

If you think it is hard to tell the Harry's apart, how about that ass
hole who is spoofing my ID. His spelling and syntax errors remind me
of half my posts. I have to go back to my send folder to see if it is
me or that ass hole.

You got that right. Anyone who would spoof my little buddy has to be an
ass hole rivaling the great WAFA.

Can you believe how they spend all of their time insulting people
instead of discussing rec.boats? Hell, what is the name of this group
anyway. I know a number of boaters, many years ago, I used to actually
crew with a sailboater and I know you use your boat up to 25 hrs a year,
if it wasn't for these ass holes, we could really have some great on
topic discussions.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

Don White wrote:
On 2/1/2010 9:30 AM, Harry wrote:
Don White wrote:
On 2/1/2010 7:58 AM, Harry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:

nly adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet
again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant
Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

If you think it is hard to tell the Harry's apart, how about that ass
hole who is spoofing my ID. His spelling and syntax errors remind me
of half my posts. I have to go back to my send folder to see if it is
me or that ass hole.

You got that right. Anyone who would spoof my little buddy has to be an
ass hole rivaling the great WAFA.

Can you believe how they spend all of their time insulting people
instead of discussing rec.boats? Hell, what is the name of this group
anyway. I know a number of boaters, many years ago, I used to actually
crew with a sailboater and I know you use your boat up to 25 hrs a year,
if it wasn't for these ass holes, we could really have some great on
topic discussions.

Oh Yeah. Those were the days, my friend. We thought they would never end.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
On 2/1/2010 7:58 AM, Harry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:

nly adds up one way. It's another "you don't even know,
what you don't know". He never took a piston out, Google failed him
again;)

He really is a dumb ass;) Looks like he has been caught lying yet
again;)

Scotty

Was that the real Harry, or was it one of the numerous assistant Harrys?
It's getting so that you can't tell one from another.

If you think it is hard to tell the Harry's apart, how about that ass hole
who is spoofing my ID. His spelling and syntax errors remind me of half
my posts. I have to go back to my send folder to see if it is me or that
ass hole.

Try looking in a mirror. That should simplify the process...asshole.

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

The boat ad has been pulled so I'm assuming its already sold,. I might
still inquire about it anyhow, but if it's gone it's gone.

But that's OK, I really didn't need it anyhow, and it's just another
project that I'd have. But it was still a bargain rate. I'd thought of
fixing it and using it for a year maybe then flipping it, because I
don't need three boats and I'm more a mercruiser fan anyhow. but ....


Thanks for the engine advice.

I appreciate it.

Tim

Evinrude v-4 low compression on one
 

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:31:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 30, 7:44*pm, Harry wrote:
On 1/30/10 8:40 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 30, 3:04 pm, *wrote:
On 1/30/10 3:47 PM, Tim wrote:

I'm looking at another boat. A 19 ft bowrider *trihull. the boat
itself is in great condition but the 100 hp. v-4 Evinrude has ow
compression on one cyl. they burned up a starter trying to get it
running. they got a starter put on and found out one cycl. is low.
Didn't say how low, but it's still not up with the other 3. They were
thinking on fixing it, but decided to get another boat and so they're
wanting to sell this one. Cheap! *i mean, the lower end on the engine
is probably what they want for the whole thing... Cheap!

I know that that to repair the engine is going to cost something. It
could be anything from a bad ring to a scored piston and cylinder. ,
But I'm not too worried about it because I have a 115 v-4 in my garage
with a one year old power head. But I'd rather see how bad the engine
actually is before I swapped it out. If a cylinder is scored that's
one thing, but if it needs a piston and/or rings that's another.

I don't know much about the v-4's but can you pull a piston without
having pull the flywheel and split the casings etc?

The engine is a 1979 Evinrude Javilin squared hood.

just curious.

If you look on this site, assuming the URL works:

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index....f41179a6c0e561...

You're see an exploded view of that powerhead.

I don't see how you can remove a piston without splitting the casings.
How would you get to the wrist pin?

Here's the piston drawing:

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index....f41179a6c0e561...

The way i see it, if you can remove the intake manifold, and *a plate
(if there is such a *thing) off the bottom (crank side) of the engine
and get to the connecting rod and pull the nuts from the bottom of the
rod, and take the head[s] off, you should be able to push the piston/
conrod through the top of the engine, like you would *on most
reciprocating engines.

Well...there's every chance you could be right!

You're also assuming, I would guess, that a frozed or damaged piston and
rings are the only problems in that powerhead. It's 30 years old.
Restoring it to operating condition may well take a lot of time and a
significant amount of $$$. Oh...the gearcase could be shot, too.

True, but I 'm really not concerned about it because i do have an
older 115 hp v-4 with a new power head. Well, it ws run for a year
after replacement, then they wrecked the boat, then pulled the engine
and mothballed it. It sat for almost 20 years in storage, and I
bought it for a hundred bucks . Last year we build a stand for it,
hosed and fired it. It ran well. So i do have a good spare, but I was
hoping to use it on a pontoon if I can find one worth the money.
Thatss why I'd like to get this one figured out if and see if it's
something minor as a head gasket, or rings.

The trailer is worth what I'm giving for the whole deal.

If you've got the need for another boat, the time and inclination to
do the work, and SWMBO says, "OK", well, then go for it.
--

Proud member of the angry mob.

If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.