I have a dream
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts
wrote:


BOSTON (The Borowitz Report) - Firing up voters on the eve of the
special election to fill the late Edward M. Kennedy's Senate seat,
Republican candidate Scott Brown spoke at a campaign rally today,
proclaiming, "With your help, our dream of depriving millions of
health care is within reach."

"Let's send a message, Massachusetts!" Mr. Brown exhorted the crowd.
"Let's tell people across the country that if they want health
coverage, they are **** out of luck!"

An aide to Mr. Brown said that internal polling reveals that the
Republican's anti-healthcare message may be catching on: "Right now,
Scott is showing a double-digit lead among people who describe
themselves as douchebags."

when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know


YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...linton-doesnt/

I have a dream
 

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know


YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...linton-doesnt/

we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world

I have a dream
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know


YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...linton-doesnt/

we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world



We also have a huge group of 3rd world people living here. We seem to be
one of the only large countries in the world who look the other way with
illegal immigration, or who allow sick people entry.

I have a dream
 

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:34:38 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know


YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...linton-doesnt/

we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world



We also have a huge group of 3rd world people living here. We seem to be
one of the only large countries in the world who look the other way with
illegal immigration, or who allow sick people entry.

10% of france is muslim immigrants. yet they seem to do OK.

I have a dream
 

"Harry" wrote in message
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Jack wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:20 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:34:38 -0800, "CalifBill"





wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts

wrote:
when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know
YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...echwriter-for-...
we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world
We also have a huge group of 3rd world people living here. We seem to
be
one of the only large countries in the world who look the other way
with
illegal immigration, or who allow sick people entry.
10% of france is muslim immigrants. yet they seem to do OK.


"It's expensive to provide this kind of health care and social
support. France's health care system is one of the most expensive in
the world."

"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay
about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system.
Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers
say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"

With France's mean income tax rate hovering around 50%, you can hardly
say they're doing "OK".

You should move there. The taxes you'll pay will give you something
new to whine about.


Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all of
life. In many European countries, the average person is far better off in
many ways than the average American in terms of health, educational
opportunities for their kids and themselves, retirement, vacation, et
cetera. Many Europeans have the sort of social welfare underpinnings that
help provide a decent life.

A good health care insurance program for a working family in this country
costs about $12,000 a year. This is for a family without a lot of excess
income, a family that hasn't the ability to put away thousands of dollars
in a medical savings account or in a method to defray high deductibles.
That's 20% or more of income.

Part of the problem we have in this country is that our taxes allow the
accumulation of massive amounts of wealth. All income should be taxable
during the working years, and the rates should be sharply progressive.

Especially when the US is conducting an expensive overseas war.

I have a dream
 

I have a dream
 

Harry wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:26:59 -0500, Harry
wrote:

A good health care insurance program for a working family in this
country costs about $12,000 a year

The strange thing about this is that is what the current health care
bill caps rates at so if this is horrible, the health care bill is
horrible isn't it?


*My* health care bill would have gotten rid of for-profit health
insurance companies.

Unfortunately, no one cares about my opinion at all. I am just a obese
old man. My dad would be very disappointed with what I have done with
my life.

I have a dream
 

wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:26:59 -0500, Harry
wrote:

A good health care insurance program for a working family in this
country costs about $12,000 a year

The strange thing about this is that is what the current health care
bill caps rates at so if this is horrible, the health care bill is
horrible isn't it?


I'm not a huge fan of the current bill in the Senate, but I think the key
word is "caps."

--
Nom=de=Plume

I have a dream
 

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:52:28 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

On Jan 20, 6:20*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:34:38 -0800, "CalifBill"




10% of france is muslim immigrants. yet they seem to do OK.


"It's expensive to provide this kind of health care and social
support. France's health care system is one of the most expensive in
the world."

ROFLMAO!! and guess who has the MOST expensive??



"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay
about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system.
Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers
say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"

With France's mean income tax rate hovering around 50%, you can hardly
say they're doing "OK".

You should move there. The taxes you'll pay will give you something
new to whine about.

you aint seen nuthin yet. the GOP has bankrupted the US into a 3rd
world country

I have a dream
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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Jack wrote:

On Jan 20, 6:20 am, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:34:38 -0800, "CalifBill"





wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts

wrote:
when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know

YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...echwriter-for-...

we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world

We also have a huge group of 3rd world people living here. We seem to
be
one of the only large countries in the world who look the other way
with
illegal immigration, or who allow sick people entry.

10% of france is muslim immigrants. yet they seem to do OK.


"It's expensive to provide this kind of health care and social
support. France's health care system is one of the most expensive in
the world."

"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay
about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system.
Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers
say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"

With France's mean income tax rate hovering around 50%, you can hardly
say they're doing "OK".

You should move there. The taxes you'll pay will give you something
new to whine about.


Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all of
life. In many European countries, the average person is far better off in
many ways than the average American in terms of health, educational
opportunities for their kids and themselves, retirement, vacation, et
cetera. Many Europeans have the sort of social welfare underpinnings that
help provide a decent life.

A good health care insurance program for a working family in this country
costs about $12,000 a year. This is for a family without a lot of excess
income, a family that hasn't the ability to put away thousands of dollars
in a medical savings account or in a method to defray high deductibles.
That's 20% or more of income.

Part of the problem we have in this country is that our taxes allow the
accumulation of massive amounts of wealth. All income should be taxable
during the working years, and the rates should be sharply progressive.

Especially when the US is conducting an expensive overseas war.



Which one?

I have a dream
 

On Jan 20, 12:26*pm, Harry wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:20 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:34:38 -0800, "CalifBill"

wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts
wrote:
when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know
YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. *It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...echwriter-for-...
we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world
We also have a huge group of 3rd world people living here. *We seem to be
one of the only large countries in the world who look the other way with
illegal immigration, or who allow sick people entry.
10% of france is muslim immigrants. yet they seem to do OK.

"It's expensive to provide this kind of health care and social
support. France's health care system is one of the most expensive in
the world."

"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay
about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system.
Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers
say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"

With France's mean income tax rate hovering around 50%, you can hardly
say they're doing "OK".

You should move there. *The taxes you'll pay will give you something
new to whine about.

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.

Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?

I have a dream
 

Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.

Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?

I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I have a dream
 

Bruce wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.

Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?

I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I am sure it suits you to a tee.

I have a dream
 

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:07:31 -0500, Bruce wrote:

Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.

Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?

I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I don't know how much my HP 895Cxi cost, but it's been a good printer.
I actually bought a Canon just for printing photographs. But, shortly
thereafter, I discovered how good a job Costco could do, for much less
than the cost of paper, let alone ink. Now the Canon barely gets used.
I keep waiting for the HP to bite the dust so I can get down to one
printer.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

I have a dream
 

John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:07:31 -0500, Bruce wrote:

Loogypicker wrote:
Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.

Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?

I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I don't know how much my HP 895Cxi cost, but it's been a good printer.
I actually bought a Canon just for printing photographs. But, shortly
thereafter, I discovered how good a job Costco could do, for much less
than the cost of paper, let alone ink. Now the Canon barely gets used.
I keep waiting for the HP to bite the dust so I can get down to one
printer.


I've got a cherry HP fax machine I haven't used in years. Hardly anyone
faxes anymore. I have an eFax account that gets used maybe once every
quarter by me to send a fax. The few faxes I do get seem to come mostly
from overseas contributors to a newsletter I edit and publish.

I had a Canon i9900 (I think that's the model) photo printer, which I
had for four or five years or so. It started to malfunction, and the
estimate for shipping it to a qualified repair depot and back plus the
cost of repairs was more than the printer was worth. I did some research
and then found a really good price the Epson I bought, and it came with
a $50 rebate.

There's nothing wrong with using Costco for everyday prints, especially
4x6 prints.

I have a dream
 

Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.
Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?
I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I am sure it suits you to a tee.
It does. You also chose not to tell me if you have a boat.

Interesting.

I have a dream
 

Bruce wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all
of life.
Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?
I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I am sure it suits you to a tee.
It does. You also chose not to tell me if you have a boat.

Interesting.


I have a boat, Bruce. More than one. Got one up for sale, maybe.

I have a dream
 

Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end
all
of life.
Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?
I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and copies!

I am sure it suits you to a tee.
It does. You also chose not to tell me if you have a boat.

Interesting.


I have a boat, Bruce. More than one. Got one up for sale, maybe.

But I'm really more proud to own my $414 printer.

I have a dream
 

Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and
end all
of life.
Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?
I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and
copies!

I am sure it suits you to a tee.
It does. You also chose not to tell me if you have a boat.

Interesting.


I have a boat, Bruce. More than one. Got one up for sale, maybe.

But I'm really more proud to own my $414 printer.

Edit: I paid $414, but the retail price was $699. Walmart has some
great prices.

I have a dream
 

Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Harry wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:

Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and
end all
of life.
Then why do you tell lie after lie about what you own?
I don't have a $414 printer. Mine was $99 and faxes, scan, and
copies!

I am sure it suits you to a tee.
It does. You also chose not to tell me if you have a boat.

Interesting.


I have a boat, Bruce. More than one. Got one up for sale, maybe.
What ya got for sale?