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Anchor question
Steve B wrote:
I have retrieved lots of anchors scuba diving in Lake Mead and the Colorado river. Some were easy, some stuck fast. I would suggest matching the anchor to the terrain as the major factor. After that, it's just dumb luck. I could see just how some people lost theirs, tracing their remnant of anchor ropes. It was amazing that most of them just had to back up, but probably didn't have, couldn't read, or couldn't see their compasses. A couple took prybars, but most just came out when pulled in the right direction. Lots of them had that slider ring. Steve They are both essentially the same design and from the same manufacturer. The Fortress is nearly twice the price of the Guardian. I anchor mostly in sand. Here's the website: http://www.fortressanchors.com/ I'm covered in the chain/rope/scope department. Bruce |
Anchor question
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, wrote: I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the extra money. To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you shouldn't need anyway. You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle, but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place. It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20' CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions. Thanks! I have 20' of chain and 200' (maybe 250') of rope so that's not an issue. Bruce |
Anchor question
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, wrote: I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the extra money. To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you shouldn't need anyway. You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle, but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place. It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20' CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain .. Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it for now. Just my .02 That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to handle. It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8" brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have to anchor in. I have 1/2" braided line and 3/8" chain. I got the line at a marine flea market for a great price. Bruce |
Anchor question
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:50:45 -0500, Gene
wrote: Exactly..... why I installed a windlass...... I have one on the Grady. It's kind of overkill on the Ranger. |
Anchor question
Rather than carry chain on my 21 footer, I used to carry a small
mushroom anchor with 10 ft. of 1/2 in. line wrapped around it. If I thought I was going to need extra line on the anchor rode, I would hook up the anchor to the end of the 10 ft. line and then attach the anchor line to the small mushroom anchor (10 lt) That would keep the anchor rode lying flat and was very easy to store. Didn't use it very often, Lake St. Clair is not very deep. Happy boating, Norm |
Anchor question
N.L. Eckert wrote:
Rather than carry chain on my 21 footer, I used to carry a small mushroom anchor with 10 ft. of 1/2 in. line wrapped around it. If I thought I was going to need extra line on the anchor rode, I would hook up the anchor to the end of the 10 ft. line and then attach the anchor line to the small mushroom anchor (10 lt) That would keep the anchor rode lying flat and was very easy to store. Didn't use it very often, Lake St. Clair is not very deep. Happy boating, Norm There are circumstances in which Fortress/Guardian anchors are troublesome. These include anchoring in areas with really strong currents/winds and anchoring in areas with rocky bottoms or with bottoms that have a lot of debris. In a strong current, even with a short piece of chain attached, these light anchors will "sail" for a considerable distance before they hit bottom and catch. Thus, it becomes more difficult to anchor and have the boat catch on that anchor anywhere near where you want it to be. Also, the flukes on these lightweight anchors bend a hell of a lot easier than the flukes on a galvanized anchor. If your anchor gets caught hard on the bottom, releasing it may involve forces that bend the flukes on a Fortress/Guardian anchor. |
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