Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

Very sad! I boat frequently with my 9 and 6 year olds... I can't even
imagine something like that happening to them.

--Mike

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

I hope some heads roll over this. I'm behind the CG 102%, and they've done
thousands of good things that never see the light of day. But someone
seriously messed up here, and needs to man up. And most importantly, it
needs NEVER to happen again. Accidents are accidents. Some accidents are
preventable. And some are so ridiculously preventable that it makes the
participants out for the foolish children they were during the incident.

My thoughts and prayers are with the family. I can't imagine having such a
senseless loss.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

I hope some heads roll over this. I'm behind the CG 102%, and they've
done thousands of good things that never see the light of day. But
someone seriously messed up here, and needs to man up. And most
importantly, it needs NEVER to happen again. Accidents are accidents.
Some accidents are preventable. And some are so ridiculously preventable
that it makes the participants out for the foolish children they were
during the incident.

My thoughts and prayers are with the family. I can't imagine having such
a senseless loss.

Steve


Sounds like the boat the CG was using is one of those quad engined 30' boat.
Why the hell would they go racing to a grounding. Most of SD is sand
bottom.

In article ,
says...

"Steve B" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

I hope some heads roll over this. I'm behind the CG 102%, and they've
done thousands of good things that never see the light of day. But
someone seriously messed up here, and needs to man up. And most
importantly, it needs NEVER to happen again. Accidents are accidents.
Some accidents are preventable. And some are so ridiculously preventable
that it makes the participants out for the foolish children they were
during the incident.

My thoughts and prayers are with the family. I can't imagine having such
a senseless loss.

Steve


Sounds like the boat the CG was using is one of those quad engined 30' boat.
Why the hell would they go racing to a grounding. Most of SD is sand
bottom.

I don't think any boat should be aloud to go faster than my 36 foot
Zimmerman like lobsta' boat.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--


Not really, it depends on the layout. My 23' boat has a USGS capacity
placard that lists 10 people. My friend's 23' Mastercraft is rated for 12
people (go figure). I will say though that 10 or 12 bodies on a 23' boat
makes for a cramped ride. 13 on a 24' boat would most likely be just as
cramped.

--Mike

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:46:33 -0800, "mgg" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--


Not really, it depends on the layout. My 23' boat has a USGS capacity
placard that lists 10 people. My friend's 23' Mastercraft is rated for 12
people (go figure). I will say though that 10 or 12 bodies on a 23' boat
makes for a cramped ride. 13 on a 24' boat would most likely be just as
cramped.

--Mike


I looked at the specs for one of the sea ray 24'ers. It said 8 people,
but could have been a different sea ray.

Sounds like the Coast Guard screwed the pooch on this one.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

mgg wrote:
"John wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.
--


Not really, it depends on the layout. My 23' boat has a USGS capacity
placard that lists 10 people. My friend's 23' Mastercraft is rated for 12
people (go figure). I will say though that 10 or 12 bodies on a 23' boat
makes for a cramped ride. 13 on a 24' boat would most likely be just as
cramped.

--Mike



Check the weight, too. IIRC, they assume about a 150# average per person.

Rob

On 12/23/09 12:28 PM, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:26:47 -0500, John
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Bad all around.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...witnesses-say/

--Vic

A real shame.

Thirteen people on board seems very high for a 24' boat. I'd be
thinking the max would be around eight or so.

Depends. A 24' Carolina Skiff will carry 18....
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html


The capacity of the boat that was *hit* by the USCG isn't the issue
here, as the accident was entirely the fault of the Coast Guard. Last
year, when we were there, we saw several USCG and many USN and marine
small vessels tearing ass their ways through the harbour and out to the
ocean. Boys with toys, showing off. In fact, I remember the wife of the
couple sitting next to us on the whale watching vessel saying, "Look,
the boys found the gas pedal!"