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John H[_11_] December 22nd 09 09:45 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas — The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.


I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


And libraries are free.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

John H[_11_] December 22nd 09 09:54 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:29:26 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas - The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.

I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


"The B. Dalton store was never a community destination with comfy
couches and an espresso bar, but its closing will create a literary
void in a city with a high illiteracy rate."

I suspect it's driven by more than price pressure. You need to have
enough interest in the product to sell it in volume. 230,000 people
can't generate enough interest in a single bookstore? Yikes.

There isn't a Walmart within 20 miles of Seattle that I know of and
most educated people here consider them a cancer and stay away.

I don't think Target is considered a spot to purchase reading material
unless its the kind that sits in the checkout line.


Ignorant of where the real people shop.
http://www.walmart.com/storeLocator/...ch_zip=9819 9

18 walmarts in the seattle area.


Looks like jps is too educated to know where they are.

I went to Wal Mart today, to get a plug for my lawn mower. They had it
in stock. I suppose I could have gone to Home Depot, but what
difference would it make.

Oh, maybe Home Depot is union and therefore better?

Another good joke.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

John H[_11_] December 22nd 09 09:56 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:26:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas — The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.


I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


I would no more expect to find books at Wal-Mart than I would expect
to find office supplies.

Well, yes, they might have a smidgeon of each, but why waste the
effort with hopes they might have what I need.

What few books I have seen at Wal-Mart are not the ones I'd be looking
for at Barnes and Nobles, Borders, or even Books-a-Million.....

These don't look like big readers, anyway.....
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?paged=1


They do look like they voted for Obama though.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

nom=de=plume December 22nd 09 10:05 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas - The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.


I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


And libraries are free.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H



Are you stupid or are you pretending?

http://www.wisegeek.com/how-are-publ...ies-funded.htm


--
Nom=de=Plume



jps December 22nd 09 11:13 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:57:30 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:28:00 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas — The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.

I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


"The B. Dalton store was never a community destination with comfy
couches and an espresso bar, but its closing will create a literary
void in a city with a high illiteracy rate."

I suspect it's driven by more than price pressure. You need to have
enough interest in the product to sell it in volume. 230,000 people
can't generate enough interest in a single bookstore? Yikes.

There isn't a Walmart within 20 miles of Seattle that I know of and
most educated people here consider them a cancer and stay away.

I don't think Target is considered a spot to purchase reading material
unless its the kind that sits in the checkout line.


The short answer, Laredo ain't Seattle.


Yup.

Seattle is the home of the coffee shop and I suspect that is what you
consider a book store to be.


You mean a place to hang out? That's not an unfair representation
but, if you're into reading, it does require browsing unless you're
just there to pick up something specific. I find a lot of folks go
there to see what's there. Usually know what you want in a coffee
shop.

There are more than 50 bookstores in the Seattle metro area. Some of
them serving general interests

If you are just looking for best sellers,
magazines or pulp fiction, WalMart, Target and Kmart will serve your
needs just fine at 40-60 % of the list price. You may not have them in
Seattle but WalMart is real big in the south. It is a one stop shop
for people who don't have a lot of money


And they haven't a clue that they're feeding the same schmucks that
are systematically replacing stateside jobs with overseas employment.

Pretty soon, only Chinese will be able to afford Walmart's products.

According to the US Census Laredo is 94% hispanic and the median
family income is $29,000 a year
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48/4841464.html
I bet the coffee table books B.Dalton sells, mostly in English, are
not a huge seller.
If they knew anything about the demographics, they wouldn't have
opened a store there in the first place.


Probably so.

jps December 22nd 09 11:16 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:26:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas — The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.


I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


I would no more expect to find books at Wal-Mart than I would expect
to find office supplies.

Well, yes, they might have a smidgeon of each, but why waste the
effort with hopes they might have what I need.

What few books I have seen at Wal-Mart are not the ones I'd be looking
for at Barnes and Nobles, Borders, or even Books-a-Million.....

These don't look like big readers, anyway.....
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?paged=1


The cheerleader reads the Star and People Magazine. You know, "all of
'em."

jps December 22nd 09 11:17 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:38:32 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:29:54 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

On Dec 22, 12:12*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:

LAREDO, Texas — The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.

I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


Unlike some here, I notice that you caught the lie in that "news"
report. There will be plenty of "booksellers", just no dedicated book
stores. The mouthbreathers among us read it, believed it, and
reposted it as the gospel. Too funny.


"Booksellers" could be the grocery store, if you consider National
Enquirer fair game.

A metropolitan area that big that won't support even one dedicated
book store has a cultural and literacy problem. The top 10 least
literate cities in the US contain El Paso, Corpus Christi, and San
Antonio.

A metropolitan area that big that wouldn't support even one dedicated
building supply would be seen as a problem. Wal-mart might sell
hammers and nails, but that isn't a building supply.

In the same way, a "bookseller" is not a dedicated bookstore.....


Anything Jackoff would want to read is certainly at Walmart.

jps December 22nd 09 11:20 PM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:05:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:12:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:37:26 -0800, jps wrote:


LAREDO, Texas - The final chapter has been written for the lone
bookstore on the streets of Laredo.

With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could
soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller.

The situation is so grim that schoolchildren have pleaded for a
reprieve from next month's planned shutdown of the B. Dalton
bookstore. After that, the nearest store will be 150 miles away in San
Antonio.

I assume the "book stores" can't compete with Walmart. I know around
here B&N is having their ass handed to them by Target, Walmart and the
public library. I see lots of people milling around but not many
actually get into a checkout line. If it wasn't for the coffee they
might not be making any money at all.
There is also a lot of pressure from the internet
Amazon will make it tough for anyone who has rent to pay in a mall.
I would never buy a DVD in a store. You can usually get a disk or a
book sent to your house cheaper than the best bargain bin deal in a
store.


And libraries are free.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H



Are you stupid or are you pretending?

http://www.wisegeek.com/how-are-publ...ies-funded.htm



Stupid is also free and Herring has alot of it tucked away.

Vic Smith December 23rd 09 12:56 AM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:13:31 -0800, jps wrote:



You mean a place to hang out? That's not an unfair representation
but, if you're into reading, it does require browsing unless you're
just there to pick up something specific. I find a lot of folks go
there to see what's there. Usually know what you want in a coffee
shop.

Whenever I'd visit a book store that served coffee, my impression of
the people sitting around there reading books for free was - bums.
Figured they weren't worth the overhead of the coffee operation, and
the business model was flawed.
Don't know if that's right, or not.
Maybe I'm just a prick and a bad businessman.

--Vic


Bill McKee December 23rd 09 01:50 AM

We don't need no damned books, we're in Texas!
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:13:31 -0800, jps wrote:



You mean a place to hang out? That's not an unfair representation
but, if you're into reading, it does require browsing unless you're
just there to pick up something specific. I find a lot of folks go
there to see what's there. Usually know what you want in a coffee
shop.

Whenever I'd visit a book store that served coffee, my impression of
the people sitting around there reading books for free was - bums.
Figured they weren't worth the overhead of the coffee operation, and
the business model was flawed.
Don't know if that's right, or not.
Maybe I'm just a prick and a bad businessman.

--Vic


Same thing. I do buy at Borders and they always have a 30-40% coupon
available. But they have a small coffee shop and seems as if most books
have been preread while someone is drinking their coffee. Even woses at
Barnes and Noble, plus they want money to get discount emails.




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