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Ice Pick Murder?
Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. |
Ice Pick Murder?
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Ice Pick Murder?
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:58:21 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. 20 - 22% of how many incidents? If a gun weren't available, how many of those assaults would be perforned by a knife or ice pick? It's easy to cherry pick numbers, and offer an illusory conclusion without offering access to the full data and knowing who's doing the data gathering and statistical analysis (to know what their agenda may be). So, you want to cite your source? |
Ice Pick Murder?
jps wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Yup indeed. The poor child was blessed with good fortune. What's the moral of this heart touching story? -- Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using someone else's ID |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Dec 21, 11:08*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. *Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun. It's a shame he didn't have one. She needed to be put down like the rabid bitch she is. |
Ice Pick Murder?
On 12/22/09 10:35 AM, Jack wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:08 pm, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun. It's a shame he didn't have one. She needed to be put down like the rabid bitch she is. Is she a relative of yours? Wouldn't surprise me to learn she was, eh, jackoff? Hey, is your gov going out of town for the holidays? |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Dec 22, 2:13*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. *Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. *20-22%. *This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume Your inability to reason is showing. Your statistic shows how many people choose guns (70%) as compared to knives (14%) to commit murder. Bill's statistic (the death rate) shows how many of each kind of attack are actually fatal, 20-22%. Two different things, at least to thinking people. |
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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says... On 12/22/09 10:35 AM, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 11:08 pm, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. ? A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun. It's a shame he didn't have one. She needed to be put down like the rabid bitch she is. Is she a relative of yours? Wouldn't surprise me to learn she was, eh, jackoff? Hey, is your gov going out of town for the holidays? **Jackass Alert** |
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Don White wrote:
In article , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... On 12/22/09 10:35 AM, Jack wrote: On Dec 21, 11:08 pm, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. ? A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun. It's a shame he didn't have one. She needed to be put down like the rabid bitch she is. Is she a relative of yours? Wouldn't surprise me to learn she was, eh, jackoff? Hey, is your gov going out of town for the holidays? **Jackass Alert** This is someone spoofing me. i say "DANGER DANGER", NOT JACKASS ALERT. |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... On Dec 22, 2:13 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume Your inability to reason is showing. Your statistic shows how many people choose guns (70%) as compared to knives (14%) to commit murder. Bill's statistic (the death rate) shows how many of each kind of attack are actually fatal, 20-22%. Two different things, at least to thinking people. Huh? It shows how many were killed by each weapon of choice. Murder is usually fatal. What a dopey person. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:57:19 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? Bad thing is, he DIDN'T have a gun..... Yeah, they should have both had guns. Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. I'll bet neither one of them would have been sorry for having shot the other one to death. Is that your take, Gene? |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:15 -0800, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:57:19 -0500, Gene wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? Bad thing is, he DIDN'T have a gun..... Yeah, they should have both had guns. Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. Just seeing this. You saying somebody was trying to rip off a parking space from somebody else? That's some heavy stuff. Think in the old days they called that kind of "perp" a rustler. No, maybe squatter. Anyway, probably ended in a gunfight. Well, maybe if they were sodbusters they'd go after each other with shovels. I didn't even know they made icepicks any more. Can't remember the last time I saw an ice pick. Probably 40 years. Never trust a woman who keeps an ice pick or straight razor in her purse. And if she has a peg leg she's probably even more dangerous. I heard once that to commit the perfect murder you stab the victim in the eye with an icicle. Similar to an icepick, but the weapon melts. Hard to get it to the crime scene in the summer without a good cooler. BTW, peg legs are usually associated with pirates, who spend a lot of time on boats. --Vic |
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On Dec 22, 1:10*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:57:19 -0500, Gene wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. *Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? Bad thing is, he DIDN'T have a gun..... Yeah, they should have both had guns. *Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. I'll bet neither one of them would have been sorry for having shot the other one to death. *Is that your take, Gene? Instead of laying in a hospital with a punctured kidney, he'd be home with his family, and the taxpayers wouldn't have to pay for the violent felon's room and board. Just hose down the parking lot and move on. Next person thinks twice before attacking with deadly force. Works for me. |
Ice Pick Murder?
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume So you could not comprehend what you read, so the JD part had to go. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume So you could not comprehend what you read, so the JD part had to go. Could you try again in English... I'm not a foreign speaker. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:32:57 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:15 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:57:19 -0500, Gene wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? Bad thing is, he DIDN'T have a gun..... Yeah, they should have both had guns. Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. Just seeing this. You saying somebody was trying to rip off a parking space from somebody else? That's some heavy stuff. Think in the old days they called that kind of "perp" a rustler. No, maybe squatter. Anyway, probably ended in a gunfight. Well, maybe if they were sodbusters they'd go after each other with shovels. I didn't even know they made icepicks any more. Can't remember the last time I saw an ice pick. Probably 40 years. Never trust a woman who keeps an ice pick or straight razor in her purse. And if she has a peg leg she's probably even more dangerous. I heard once that to commit the perfect murder you stab the victim in the eye with an icicle. Similar to an icepick, but the weapon melts. Hard to get it to the crime scene in the summer without a good cooler. BTW, peg legs are usually associated with pirates, who spend a lot of time on boats. --Vic Thanks for the entertainment. They still sell ice picks up here. You can get block ice for coolers and, as you undoubtedly remember, it's fun to chip off various sized pieces to cool your favorite libation. If you do a quick search for the perp, you'll find a picture of a little girl. When she gets out of wherever she's going, I'll be glad to know that the law forbids her to own a gun. Think that'll stop her from finding one? She can go to Virginia and buy one without ID or a background check. Such a purdy little thing ain't likely to cause any harm with a gun... |
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"Gene" wrote in message
... On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:30:13 -0800, jps wrote: I'll be glad to know that the law forbids her to own a gun. Think that'll stop her from finding one? Of course not. But thanks for making the point... when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns..... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 Then, they'd be easy to round up. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume So you could not comprehend what you read, so the JD part had to go. Could you try again in English... I'm not a foreign speaker. -- Nom=de=Plume Not an American reader either. I'm sorry for you. I know there are plenty of ESL classes around at Jr. Colleges... give it a try! -- Nom=de=Plume |
Ice Pick Murder?
"Vic Smith" Just seeing this. You saying somebody was trying to rip off a parking space from somebody else? That's some heavy stuff. Think in the old days they called that kind of "perp" a rustler. No, maybe squatter. Anyway, probably ended in a gunfight. Well, maybe if they were sodbusters they'd go after each other with shovels. I didn't even know they made icepicks any more. Can't remember the last time I saw an ice pick. Probably 40 years. Never trust a woman who keeps an ice pick or straight razor in her purse. And if she has a peg leg she's probably even more dangerous. I heard once that to commit the perfect murder you stab the victim in the eye with an icicle. Similar to an icepick, but the weapon melts. Hard to get it to the crime scene in the summer without a good cooler. BTW, peg legs are usually associated with pirates, who spend a lot of time on boats. --Vic I grew up in Las Vegas. As a young man, I parked card on the Strip. Some of the old wise guys were still around. One was Israel "Icepick Willie" Willie Alderman. Google reveals some interesting reading on him. I saw him once, about 1967. He looked mean as hell with blank eyes. He was a very small fellow, too. One of the only times I ever saw anyone wear a wool tweed trench coat in Las Vegas. Steve |
Ice Pick Murder?
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:08:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - A Missouri teenager is accused of stabbing a man with an ice pick in a dispute over a parking spot. Eighteen-year-old Caitlen Watkins of Springfield was charged Monday in Greene County with first-degree assault and armed criminal action. According to court documents, Watkins and a passenger in her car confronted another driver Sunday in the parking lot of a shopping center after he took a parking place Watkins wanted. Witnesses told police a fight broke out and the other driver was stabbed half a dozen times with a wooden-handled, 5-inch ice pick. Police say the other driver suffered a punctured kidney. A judge set Watkins' bond at $75,000. She did not have a lawyer. She has not yet had a hearing or entered a plea. It is good for her that he didn't have a gun Yup. Actually the death rate from knife wounds and handgun wounds is about the same. 20-22%. This excludes minor cuts where the knife does not really enter the body. You're looney... http://www.mail-archive.com/firearms.../msg00867.html "The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments." -- Nom=de=Plume So you could not comprehend what you read, so the JD part had to go. Could you try again in English... I'm not a foreign speaker. -- Nom=de=Plume Not an American reader either. |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:51:49 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:30:13 -0800, jps wrote: I'll be glad to know that the law forbids her to own a gun. Think that'll stop her from finding one? Of course not. But thanks for making the point... when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns..... Is that a talking point, Gene? Couldn't the profuse number of cheap handguns manufactured in the past several decades account for their easy availability? Golly, we should certainly thank the NRA and congress for ensuring everyone can be armed several times over, no matter their mental capacity or criminal history. |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:49:48 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:15 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:57:19 -0500, Gene wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:00:08 -0800, jps wrote: Nope, just stab wounds. Good thing she didn't have a gun, eh? Bad thing is, he DIDN'T have a gun..... Yeah, they should have both had guns. Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. I'll bet neither one of them would have been sorry for having shot the other one to death. Is that your take, Gene? My take is that, if she had come at me with an ice pick, she would be the one with ".40 puncture marks." Once mayhem was in that darling little 18 year old's mind, we changed gears and the "why" didn't matter anymore. A baby faced 18 year old, armed with an ice pick, assaulting a perfect stranger over some imagined trivial event. Now, THAT is why we have CCLs...... Yes, a gun vs. an ice pick. And what if she pulled a gun out and before you recognized the threat, she started firing? Sure didn't help the cops in Tacoma, even with open carry holsters. Think it'd be easier to get to your weapon than the trained cops? You betcha. |
Ice Pick Murder?
On 12/22/09 6:24 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:51:49 -0500, Gene wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:30:13 -0800, wrote: I'll be glad to know that the law forbids her to own a gun. Think that'll stop her from finding one? Of course not. But thanks for making the point... when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns..... Is that a talking point, Gene? Couldn't the profuse number of cheap handguns manufactured in the past several decades account for their easy availability? Golly, we should certainly thank the NRA and congress for ensuring everyone can be armed several times over, no matter their mental capacity or criminal history. I don't like cheap handguns. I buy fairly expensive ones.... :) |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:46:58 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:15 -0800, jps wrote: Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. So..... you think you might, due to human imperfection..... uncontrollably fall prey to this sort of violence......? I wouldn't bother to put myself in that circumstance if I weren't armed with an ice pick or a gun. I might conduct myself with an eye towards survival. If someone stole my parking space I'd been waiting for I'd likely give 'em the salute but I seriously doubt I'd get out to argue with them or pull a gun or an ice pick. Would you, Gene? |
Ice Pick Murder?
On 12/22/09 6:29 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:46:58 -0500, Gene wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:15 -0800, wrote: Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. So..... you think you might, due to human imperfection..... uncontrollably fall prey to this sort of violence......? I wouldn't bother to put myself in that circumstance if I weren't armed with an ice pick or a gun. I might conduct myself with an eye towards survival. If someone stole my parking space I'd been waiting for I'd likely give 'em the salute but I seriously doubt I'd get out to argue with them or pull a gun or an ice pick. Would you, Gene? I wouldn't fight over a parking space. I figure the other driver would be a deranged loser like jackoff, herring, little justhate or loogy...and since I rarely drive around "heeled," I'd have to kick 'em in the nuts real hard. |
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Ice Pick Murder?
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:30:13 -0800, jps wrote:
Thanks for the entertainment. They still sell ice picks up here. You can get block ice for coolers and, as you undoubtedly remember, it's fun to chip off various sized pieces to cool your favorite libation. When I was a lad, living summers on a farm in the Ozarks, the highlight of the week was to ride into Doniphan in the bed of my grand dads' Ford pickup to get block ice from the ice house. This was in the mid-50's Wrapped the block in burlap feed bags and got it home with no noticeable melt. It was for the icebox, as there was no refrigerator. Don't remember handing the icepick myself, and there was never ice in what we drank. Only remember drinking water, pulled with a bucket from the well, and everybody used the dipper that stayed in the bucket. Cool when the bucket was fresh, mineral laden, and delicious. Summers were hot there. Outhouse with the Sears catalog paper dispenser, Saturday bath in the washtub, run around in your underpants, check your ears and balls for ticks every night, and wake up most days with a couple spider bites. The ice man was still making the rounds in Chicago about the same time, but we had fridge there. Think I used an icepick once in my life, sometimes later. Seen maybe 5 different ones in my entire sheltered life. Seen a lot more packing pullers and mech scribes than icepicks. Might have bought 20 bags of crushed ice in my entire life for coolers. You got me thinking I've lived a wasted life. Does Walmart carry icepicks? Might pick up a couple while there's still time. Find a block of ice and a bottle of liquor. Hey! You trying to make me an alcoholic? --Vic |
Ice Pick Murder?
On Dec 22, 6:51*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:29:13 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:46:58 -0500, Gene wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:15 -0800, jps wrote: Because a parking space is worth that much and humans are *completely* in charge of their emotions. So..... you think you might, due to human imperfection..... uncontrollably fall prey to this sort of violence......? I wouldn't bother to put myself in that circumstance if I weren't armed with an ice pick or a gun. *I might conduct myself with an eye towards survival. If someone stole my parking space I'd been waiting for I'd likely give 'em the salute but I seriously doubt I'd get out to argue with them or pull a gun or an ice pick. Would you, Gene? No, not intentionally..... * but then, again, tripping all over talking points... you miss THE point. The guy that got stabbed didn't get the opportunity to make any of those decisions.... did he? *AND, lacking appropriate tools, he had no way to defuse the situation.... or prevent her from ventilating his kidneys..... ..... if he's lucky, he'll only spend Christmas and New Year's in the hospital.... he won't die slowly and painfully of a kidney infection. Little Sweetie, the perp, will likely get a slap on the wrist and go on to "bigger and better" things..... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Your tagline says it all, Gene. You're conducting an exercise in futility. |
Ice Pick Murder?
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Ice Pick Murder?
If someone stole my parking space I'd been waiting for I'd likely give 'em the salute but I seriously doubt I'd get out to argue with them or pull a gun or an ice pick. A skinny old fart once took my parking space. He saw me waiting, and slid in with a small car like in Fried Green Tomatoes. He got out. I got out of my car, but stood in the open door. "You're a brave man", I said. "Why's that?" he asked. "You just stole my parking space, and now you're going to leave me here with your car." I got in and drove to another space. He was standing by his car. I went in and got a few items, about ten minutes. When I came out, he was still standing by his car. As I drove off, I could still see him standing next to his car. At least I made him think about it. Steve |
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