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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:26:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Dec 22, 6:03 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message

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"John H" wrote in message
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Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks

I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

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Nom=de=Plume

I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on
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I have. When I built my hovercraft, I sewed all of the skirt myself. Most
home machines do not have enough clearance to get a large heavy cover ripped
in the middle in to the machine. Edges are fine, but not the center. My
wife has a Bernina machine about 30 years old. Lots of power and will sew
even naugahyde for the engine pad, but I had a rip in a cover a few years
ago, and could not get the cover in enough to sew it.


Mr. Kim, at an auto upholstery/boat cover shop will repair the large
hole and a couple smaller ones for $45. Can't beat that with a stick.

Harry had mentioned a hundred dollar shrink wrap guy. I'd love the
phone number of that guy. The cheapest I've been able to find around
here is $13.50/ft, measured from the tip to the bow to the back of the
engine.
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Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

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Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:13:47 -0500, John H
wrote:

The cheapest I've been able to find around
here is $13.50/ft, measured from the tip to the bow to the back of the
engine.

The materials (alone) are quite cheap.....
http://www.boatshrink.com/

How much is the heat gun?

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Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
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John H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:42:02 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 12/22/09 6:03 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
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"John wrote in message
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Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the
plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now
I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks

I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large
canvas cover on
a home sewing machine.


You don't get out much, eh? Most covers for small boats aren't
made up from heavy cotton canvas, but from much lighter and
thinner poly fabrics. My wife sewed a small patch on my Parker's
poly cover with a plain old home sewing machine.

Of course, one has to have a competent wife. Perhaps you and
herring can seek our a neighbor's wife. No competent woman would
have anything to do with either of you.
Most small boat covers are still fairly heavy, and most home
sewing machines have a limited throat depth.
Harry's cover may have torn on the edge. If so, there wouldn't be
much
to shove into the throat of the sewing machine.
Of course, just being Harry would make the job much easier. One
wonders how he got his cover torn when he always shrink wraps his
boat.
If he was your best buddy, you would know. He didn't use the boat
this season, and it rained too much and a puddle developed in the
middle. He meant to go out and check on the boat, but someone had
to keep posting in rec.bolts, so it just got too heavy.
You tell 'em little buddy pal....
So when are you coming back to halifax/

I don't know, Don. As you know, I only drink the finest beers in the
world, and your son was constantly swilling that cheap stuff so fast,
I couldn't even get one of those. And your wife wouldn't give you and
I any "alone time". Also, Halifax isn't nearly cultured and
sophisticated enough for me.

And besides that my wife complained about the fish smell on my clothes.
I had to boil them in a bleach solution to get the stink out.


That was not fish smell, I have a bad yeast infection.

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Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:26:50 -0500, Jim wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:13:47 -0500, John H
wrote:

The cheapest I've been able to find around
here is $13.50/ft, measured from the tip to the bow to the back of the
engine.
The materials (alone) are quite cheap.....
http://www.boatshrink.com/
How much is the heat gun?

IIRC, it was about $300, though I've seen them priced at twice that
much. I think a do-it-yourselfer could get by spending a LOT less....
Yup. I thought they were kind of pricy. Also, I shudder to think what a
flame gun could do to a fiberglass boat in the hands of klutz. Harry for
instance.

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On 12/23/09 4:20 PM, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:09:27 -0500, wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:26:50 -0500, wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:13:47 -0500, John
wrote:

The cheapest I've been able to find around
here is $13.50/ft, measured from the tip to the bow to the back of the
engine.
The materials (alone) are quite cheap.....
http://www.boatshrink.com/
How much is the heat gun?

IIRC, it was about $300, though I've seen them priced at twice that
much. I think a do-it-yourselfer could get by spending a LOT less....
Yup. I thought they were kind of pricy. Also, I shudder to think what a
flame gun could do to a fiberglass boat in the hands of klutz. Harry for
instance.

I believe my tool of choice would be an iron. That is the only
accepted practice for fabric covering of aircraft where heat is used
for taughtening the fabric....


The guy who does mine comes to your house or boatyard, whatever, and
this year he raised his price from $7.50 to $8.00 a foot. He does a
great job, even better than the dealer I used to use. Most of the
boatyards/dealers charge $13 to $15 a foot.

I see flajim has made another of his idiotic, uninformed posts. He
should stick to spoofing the ID's of other posters here.

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:09:27 -0500, Jim wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:26:50 -0500, Jim wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:13:47 -0500, John H
wrote:

The cheapest I've been able to find around
here is $13.50/ft, measured from the tip to the bow to the back of
the
engine.
The materials (alone) are quite cheap.....
http://www.boatshrink.com/
How much is the heat gun?

IIRC, it was about $300, though I've seen them priced at twice that
much. I think a do-it-yourselfer could get by spending a LOT less....
Yup. I thought they were kind of pricy. Also, I shudder to think what a
flame gun could do to a fiberglass boat in the hands of klutz. Harry for
instance.

I believe my tool of choice would be an iron. That is the only
accepted practice for fabric covering of aircraft where heat is used
for taughtening the fabric....
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186\

An iron may stick to the plastic. I have a Black and Decker heat gun from
the 1980's. Blows lot of heat. Here is a dual temp gun $32.
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-9.../dp/B0000302U8

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:43:30 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:26:50 -0500, Jim wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:13:47 -0500, John H
wrote:

The cheapest I've been able to find around
here is $13.50/ft, measured from the tip to the bow to the back of the
engine.

The materials (alone) are quite cheap.....
http://www.boatshrink.com/

How much is the heat gun?

IIRC, it was about $300, though I've seen them priced at twice that
much. I think a do-it-yourselfer could get by spending a LOT less....

Well, I notice Harry hasn't posted anything about his hundred dollar
guy. Must've been more BS.

I don't think I want to try the shrink wrap trick myself. We don't
normally get a snow like we had - the last time was 1996 - so I don't
think I'll invest in the shrink wrap stuff.
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Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.


Do you really think an average Singer sewing machine is capable of
working with that material? Think again - I've been to the canvas
shop. You put a lot of confidence in the average.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on a home sewing machine.

Please show me where I said either a home sewing machine or to do it
himself. I said, try a sewing machine. Lots of people do this for a living.
Find one.

Keep trying. I've heard that if a monkey is left alone long enough with a
typewriter.... No insult intended of course..


Read this post again - top to bottom. You contradict yourself - again.
If you don't have anything of substance to add, it is perfectly OK to STFU.

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John H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:03:50 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover on
a home sewing machine.


Oh hell, she probably throws the 10' x 25' piece of canvas right up
there on her Janome 9500 and lets fly. She's 'pretty smart', you know.


In her mind.

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John H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:42:02 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...

On 12/22/09 6:03 PM, Bill McKee wrote:

wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on
a home sewing machine.



You don't get out much, eh? Most covers for small boats aren't made up
from heavy cotton canvas, but from much lighter and thinner poly fabrics.
My wife sewed a small patch on my Parker's poly cover with a plain old
home sewing machine.

Of course, one has to have a competent wife. Perhaps you and herring can
seek our a neighbor's wife. No competent woman would have anything to do
with either of you.

Most small boat covers are still fairly heavy, and most home sewing machines
have a limited throat depth.


Harry's cover may have torn on the edge. If so, there wouldn't be much
to shove into the throat of the sewing machine.

Of course, just being Harry would make the job much easier. One
wonders how he got his cover torn when he always shrink wraps his
boat.

Lack of use. The UV rays worked their magic and it became weak and
brittle.

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Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 23, 8:43 am, wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:

"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
m...

On 12/22/09 6:03 PM, Bill McKee wrote:

wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).


Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.


Again, thanks


I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on
a home sewing machine.


You don't get out much, eh? Most covers for small boats aren't made up
from heavy cotton canvas, but from much lighter and thinner poly fabrics.
My wife sewed a small patch on my Parker's poly cover with a plain old
home sewing machine.


Of course, one has to have a competent wife. Perhaps you and herring can
seek our a neighbor's wife. No competent woman would have anything to do
with either of you.

Most small boat covers are still fairly heavy, and most home sewing
machines have a limited throat depth.


Sounds right. They do make semi-industrial strength machines, and you can
always take it to a seamstress.

You still aren't comfortable with the idea of taking the cover to a
professional who is skilled at making and repairing boat covers, are you?
You need to pester the folks over at rec.sellingragsforfunandprofit and
leave us alone.- Hide quoted text -

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Some people have the ability, the skill, and the desire to do things
themselves. Not only does it save money, but when you accomplish
something on your own, there's satisfaction in a job well done. You
wouldn't know about that.


Donnie only had to turn his boat upside down for the winter. I'm sure
he was satisfied and proud of the results.

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"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on a home sewing machine.

Please show me where I said either a home sewing machine or to do it
himself. I said, try a sewing machine. Lots of people do this for a
living.
Find one.

Keep trying. I've heard that if a monkey is left alone long enough with a
typewriter.... No insult intended of course..


Read this post again - top to bottom. You contradict yourself - again.
If you don't have anything of substance to add, it is perfectly OK to
STFU.


I think I'll let you have the last word, since you clearly need to have the
last word to feel (oh, wait.. be) a man.


--
Nom=de=Plume

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"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.


Do you really think an average Singer sewing machine is capable of working
with that material? Think again - I've been to the canvas shop. You put
a lot of confidence in the average.


If you knew anything about sewing, you would know that most "household"
machines can sew through quite thick material.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
m...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on a home sewing machine.

Please show me where I said either a home sewing machine or to do it
himself. I said, try a sewing machine. Lots of people do this for a
living.
Find one.

Keep trying. I've heard that if a monkey is left alone long enough with a
typewriter.... No insult intended of course..


Read this post again - top to bottom. You contradict yourself - again.
If you don't have anything of substance to add, it is perfectly OK to
STFU.


I think I'll let you have the last word, since you clearly need to have the
last word to feel (oh, wait.. be) a man.

Either his life is out of control or his dad beat the **** out of him
regularly for being a moron. DK lives at the apex of dickdom.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks


I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.


Do you really think an average Singer sewing machine is capable of working
with that material? Think again - I've been to the canvas shop. You put
a lot of confidence in the average.


If you knew anything about sewing, you would know that most "household"
machines can sew through quite thick material.

That's the problem, Sweet Cheeks. Most of us don't know anything about
sewing.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:06:16 -0500, Rob wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.


Do you really think an average Singer sewing machine is capable of
working with that material? Think again - I've been to the canvas
shop. You put a lot of confidence in the average.

Besides, giving Mr. Kim the $45 is good for the economy which the
liberals have totally dicked up.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

"John wrote in message
...


Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.



Do you really think an average Singer sewing machine is capable of working
with that material? Think again - I've been to the canvas shop. You put
a lot of confidence in the average.


If you knew anything about sewing, you would know that most "household"
machines can sew through quite thick material.


The canvas shops have very different machines than the one my wife has.
Hers was something like $800 so it wasn't from Toys R Us. What can you
add to this from experience?

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jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

"Bill wrote in message
m...


wrote in message
...


"John wrote in message
...


Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume



I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas cover
on a home sewing machine.


Please show me where I said either a home sewing machine or to do it
himself. I said, try a sewing machine. Lots of people do this for a
living.
Find one.

Keep trying. I've heard that if a monkey is left alone long enough with a
typewriter.... No insult intended of course..



Read this post again - top to bottom. You contradict yourself - again.
If you don't have anything of substance to add, it is perfectly OK to
STFU.


I think I'll let you have the last word, since you clearly need to have the
last word to feel (oh, wait.. be) a man.

Either his life is out of control or his dad beat the **** out of him
regularly for being a moron. DK lives at the apex of dickdom.

Can you get any dumber?

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Rob wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

"Bill wrote in message
m...


wrote in message
...


"John wrote in message
...



Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the plum
(try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now
I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks



I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume



I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large canvas
cover
on a home sewing machine.


Please show me where I said either a home sewing machine or to do it
himself. I said, try a sewing machine. Lots of people do this for a
living.
Find one.

Keep trying. I've heard that if a monkey is left alone long enough
with a
typewriter.... No insult intended of course..



Read this post again - top to bottom. You contradict yourself - again.
If you don't have anything of substance to add, it is perfectly OK to
STFU.


I think I'll let you have the last word, since you clearly need to
have the
last word to feel (oh, wait.. be) a man.

Either his life is out of control or his dad beat the **** out of him
regularly for being a moron. DK lives at the apex of dickdom.

Can you get any dumber?

Yes he can.

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Jim wrote:
Rob wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

"John wrote in message
...


Thanks to all for the suggestions, especially Harry and the
plum (try
a sewing machine!).

Comments appreciated. I found a shop that'll do the job. Now
I'll let
it dry out a bit and take it in.

Again, thanks


I guess you don't know how to use one. You should learn.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I can see you have never tried to sew the middle of a large
canvas cover
on a home sewing machine.

Please show me where I said either a home sewing machine or to do it
himself. I said, try a sewing machine. Lots of people do this for a
living.
Find one.

Keep trying. I've heard that if a monkey is left alone long
enough with a
typewriter.... No insult intended of course..


Read this post again - top to bottom. You contradict yourself -
again.
If you don't have anything of substance to add, it is perfectly OK to
STFU.

I think I'll let you have the last word, since you clearly need to
have the
last word to feel (oh, wait.. be) a man.
Either his life is out of control or his dad beat the **** out of him
regularly for being a moron. DK lives at the apex of dickdom.
Can you get any dumber?

Yes he can.
Evidently.