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Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume Considering that we now know that Wiki was heavily censored by warmites, references using Wiki should no longer be used to support any part of this argument. What the heck are you ranting about? A Wiki? I pointed you to NOAA. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Dec 20, 11:53 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume Considering that we now know that Wiki was heavily censored by warmites, references using Wiki should no longer be used to support any part of this argument. Oh, Nom, it is not H1N1 and monkees, it is HIV and monkees. H1N1 is associated with pigs. Do I really have to explain such basic stuff? You're a pig? I thought you were a frog. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I said previously. Here you go... http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2 I'm going to sleep... -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
nom=de=plume wrote:
Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I said previously. Here you go... http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2 I'm going to sleep... Sloppy, incomplete work.Prolly why you aren't doing it professionally anymore. Here's one you missed. There are more. http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090305588 |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. She is becoming more and more detached from reality. Poor thing. Plume seems to be suffering from many of the same diseases as Harry. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
In article ,
says... In article 1dddf292-5d41-4cd1-8fe1-350529acec14 @k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 20, 11:32*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. *I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. *I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. *But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. *It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. *But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. *Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. *The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. *All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. *In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. *Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. *Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. *Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? *I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. *All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. *After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume For some indication of how they have tortured the data to make it conform to warming theory, look at this blog about temps at Darwin in Oz: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...er/#more-14358 I just don't understand why half the country would rather believe scientists who have been proved to be frauds, instead of ones who haven't.. Drives me nuts... Are you saying that every bit of scientific evidence that global warming is occurring is false, and fraudulent? -- And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they use my handle here. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
... In article 1dddf292-5d41-4cd1-8fe1-350529acec14 @k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume For some indication of how they have tortured the data to make it conform to warming theory, look at this blog about temps at Darwin in Oz: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...er/#more-14358 I just don't understand why half the country would rather believe scientists who have been proved to be frauds, instead of ones who haven't.. Drives me nuts... Because they haven't. There were only a few involved in the email situation, and even those emails were cherry-picked. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. |
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On Dec 21, 12:09*pm, Don White wrote:
Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. * It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Why do YOU post here? Your post above looks just like everyone expected, you and Harry are an item! "you and I"....!!!! |
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says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article 1dddf292-5d41-4cd1-8fe1-350529acec14 @k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 20, 11:32 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. Agreed. But then I too agree with your hidden point, they don't know for sure. It is safe to say it is getting warmer or colder. But it scares the hell out of me with so little real evidence either way that they are ready to go off and mess with the weather, setup CO2 recovery plants and the like. Sounds like a pied piper mentality of the herd of idiots who need to believe in something that is actually a good thing. Because if it is warming, means mankind will be spared the hardship of -35C in Florida. Sounds like you know nothing about the science of global climate change. Well, I don't need 3 PhDs in but kissing to figure out if it isn't getting warmer, it must be getting cooler. Or visa versa depending on what you subscribe to. The probability of temperature staying constant in any point on the planet in a given year is highly improbable. But then good science isn't FUD based and does not generate $$$. All you have to do to see it is fraud is to see who benefits. In CO2s case, governments raising taxes. Remember it wasn't that long ago, maybe 15 years ago they said it was cooling. Good science hasn't changed that much in just 15 years on this planet anyways. I question if it is warming, my eyes tell me in the last 5 years it hasn't. Have utility bills to show it and I notice it. Second, if it is warming, is it really something to be concerned about? I would be more worried about global cooling, as nothing animal like lives on glaciers. Oh, they might traverse one, but live on a glacier the size of North America presents a logitstical problem. It is all about selling taxes to tax-slaves. All motives point to greed, junk science, fraud and government taxation. Go ahead, take cheap shots with BS, if it makes you feal good. After all, what you believe in is now in question as just another FAD of FUD to manage the herds for money. How about in "and" kissing? How about just one PhD? How about 1/2 brain? I think you should immediately stop paying taxes. -- Nom=de=Plume For some indication of how they have tortured the data to make it conform to warming theory, look at this blog about temps at Darwin in Oz: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...er/#more-14358 I just don't understand why half the country would rather believe scientists who have been proved to be frauds, instead of ones who haven't.. Drives me nuts... Because they haven't. There were only a few involved in the email situation, and even those emails were cherry-picked. You tell the little schitt, darling.... -- And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they use my handle here. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I said previously. Here you go... http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2 I'm going to sleep... -- Nom=de=Plume Try again. Wrong patents. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
In article ,
says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. -- And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they use my handle here. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
Harry wrote:
In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Don White" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. ** jackass alert** |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney. ** jackass alert ** |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
On Dec 21, 2:51*pm, Don White wrote:
Harry wrote: In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message news:7cednTQv6IgtNrLWnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d@giganews. com... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. * It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. *If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
On Dec 21, 2:57*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message news:7cednTQv6IgtNrLWnZ2dnUVZ_uJi4p2d@giganews .com... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. * It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. *If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney. ** jackass alert **- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A copy of this has been sent to your ISP's abuse complaint department. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
In article ,
says... "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney. ** jackass alert ** I wish they would quit. I'm having trouble figuring out which Don to cozy up to lately. -- And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they use my handle here. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I said previously. Here you go... http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2 I'm going to sleep... -- Nom=de=Plume Try again. Wrong patents. Well, since you won't give me your real name, then I give up. You win. Happy now? -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 2:51 pm, Don White wrote: Harry wrote: In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? Dick this, Chaney boy. If you are going to highlight every misspelled word or sytex error I make, you won't have time to cause your normal trouble. My son and i donnut believe in education, it is a waste of time, and real men don't spend time in school. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Don White" wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 2:51 pm, Don White wrote: Harry wrote: In article , says... Don White wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? Dick this, Chaney boy. If you are going to highlight every misspelled word or sytex error I make, you won't have time to cause your normal trouble. My son and i donnut believe in education, it is a waste of time, and real men don't spend time in school. Oh my... looks like LooneyTunes is as dumb as The Freak. Falling for the spoofers.. ~~ snerk ~~ |
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On 12/21/09 7:03 PM, Don White wrote:
"Don wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 2:51 pm, Don wrote: Harry wrote: In articlebf6dndBAvrikI7LWnZ2dnUVZ_sZi4...@giganews. com, says... Don White wrote: "Don wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? Dick this, Chaney boy. If you are going to highlight every misspelled word or sytex error I make, you won't have time to cause your normal trouble. My son and i donnut believe in education, it is a waste of time, and real men don't spend time in school. Oh my... looks like LooneyTunes is as dumb as The Freak. Falling for the spoofers.. ~~ snerk ~~ I've often wondered which of those two would capture the prize for dumbest poster in the newsgroup. It's not an easy decision. |
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Harry wrote:
On 12/21/09 7:03 PM, Don White wrote: "Don wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 21, 2:51 pm, Don wrote: Harry wrote: In articlebf6dndBAvrikI7LWnZ2dnUVZ_sZi4...@giganews. com, says... Don White wrote: "Don wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 9:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Harry wrote: On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote: D.Duck wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach some troublesome level. And it might even be a blessing in disguise! What? How so? Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient history. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising, it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the water hits -5C and expands. Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase. Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is going to be soon short if they continue. Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better. As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad to feed herds of these. The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal, natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef. But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods atomospheric carbon was very high. My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon, imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order, just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery. We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck. Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit. But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee jerk junk science. So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't, I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull**** fraudsters. Thankfully, you are in charge of nothing and no one rational will consider your opinions. You're left with the ditzy former governor of Alaska and the even nuttier U.S. Senator from Oklahoma. I sure am glad that you and I are smart enough that they always consider our opinion. It would suck if we were like the Ditzy Army where they just posted in rec.boats thinking they would make a difference. ** Warning... Warning** The jackasses are now spoofing me. If the post you read seems stupid, assume it's FlatulentJim or one of the other Dopey Army rejects posting under my name. Damn, now the stupid spoofer is trying to sound like the robot in "Lost in Space", what a dope. This guy posing as me is stupid as dirt. I got your back, little buddy. Remember, I have guns. Yah, you and Dick Chaney.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? Dick this, Chaney boy. If you are going to highlight every misspelled word or sytex error I make, you won't have time to cause your normal trouble. My son and i donnut believe in education, it is a waste of time, and real men don't spend time in school. Oh my... looks like LooneyTunes is as dumb as The Freak. Falling for the spoofers.. ~~ snerk ~~ I've often wondered which of those two would capture the prize for dumbest poster in the newsgroup. It's not an easy decision. I have offton wondered why you spend so much time talking about them? is it becuase you emphesize with them? |
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Don White wrote:
Oh my... looks like LooneyTunes is as dumb as The Freak. Falling for the spoofers.. ~~ snerk ~~ An "Oh my" post! It must be the *real* dumb Donnie. Why do you think people should have to decide which posts are from you and which are from your "spoofer"? You did something to bring this on. Rob |
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:33:49 -0500, Rob wrote:
Don White wrote: Oh my... looks like LooneyTunes is as dumb as The Freak. Falling for the spoofers.. ~~ snerk ~~ An "Oh my" post! It must be the *real* dumb Donnie. Why do you think people should have to decide which posts are from you and which are from your "spoofer"? You did something to bring this on. Rob I don't get them direct, but do you notice a difference between the 'spoofer' and the 'spoofed'? -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... I have offton wondered why you spend so much time talking about them? is it becuase you emphesize with them? ** Jackass Alert ** |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:33:49 -0500, Rob wrote: Don White wrote: Oh my... looks like LooneyTunes is as dumb as The Freak. Falling for the spoofers.. ~~ snerk ~~ An "Oh my" post! It must be the *real* dumb Donnie. Why do you think people should have to decide which posts are from you and which are from your "spoofer"? You did something to bring this on. Rob I don't get them direct, but do you notice a difference between the 'spoofer' and the 'spoofed'? -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H Facilitating again Johnny? |
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Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I said previously. Here you go... http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2 I'm going to sleep... -- Nom=de=Plume Try again. Wrong patents. Well, since you won't give me your real name, then I give up. You win. Happy now? -- Nom=de=Plume Was never unhappy. You suck at patent searches. Guess you do not charge for success. |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "Geoduck" wrote in message m... On 12/20/09 4:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the "creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my life). Yada, yada, yada. Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW types to defend this. http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98... Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one side of the "science" is presented. Go ahead - defend this. I'll wait. Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global warming is or isn't occuring. And why we need 100% rational hard real scientists to look at the issue without the policitical money grabing schemes. Currently it is about money, money greed. Carbon tax, carbon credits and extortion. That isn't science, that is political greed and nanny state BS. Even if it is warming, is that so bad? Equatorial zones have evaporation to keep temperatures moderate, but the polar areas would get most of the warming. Is that so bad you can golf or go boating in norther US or Canada in January? Hell, that is green, as more green further north would not hurt mankind. Be it golf green or green in your pocket. My utility bill would even become more moderate and less carbon to heat my home at -35C. Eco nuts are "sky is falling" nut balls following the government love in for excuses for more taxes. Someone wise once said to me, always follow the money for your answers. Well the green thing is fostered by government greed for taxation, be it carbon taxes or carbon credits it is about taking our money for them to waste on GM/Bank/Government like ponzi schemes. In the mean time, more green lawns and forrests will absorb more carbon. Nature has a unique way of balancing the Earth and eco freeks just don't want to admit that hard fact of reality. Good grief... well, you've pretty much summed up the loonieness of the deniers. Good for you! -- Nom=de=Plume You just accentuated the loonieness of the gullible. Yeah, I guess when someone talks science, it seems like magic to you... It's sorta interesting that we have several right-wingers in here who *claim* to be scientists, but apparently have no ability to apply the thought processes they learned in other fields to the ones usually discussed here. I wouldn't call McKee a scientist of any sort, though...his last work experience was rounding up illegals at shape-ups to work on home improvement projects. Actually the only times I have rounded up day laborers at the gathering spots, was because the request for workers to the EDD never supplied workers. And as a degreed engineer with patent and designing high tech and biomed stuff, I would qualify as a scientist a hell of a lot more than a person who sells used clothes and or is a clam. Whooo... try again to put me down if it makes you feel better. Why don't you tell us about your "patent" that's either pending or completed. -- Nom=de=Plume You are a claimed Patent attorney. Do a search. Ok... look, just to be clear, I don't know if your real name is William McKee. And, the fact that I did a search and found two patents under that name in NO WAY could possibly confirm that I am or am not a patent attorney. Anyone, perhaps even you, can do the search, which is what I said previously. Here you go... http://tinyurl.com/yzwldr2 I'm going to sleep... -- Nom=de=Plume Try again. Wrong patents. Well, since you won't give me your real name, then I give up. You win. Happy now? -- Nom=de=Plume Was never unhappy. You suck at patent searches. Guess you do not charge for success. I think you're just a fool with too much time on your hands. Get a life and if that happens, get back to us with the news. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... I have offton wondered why you spend so much time talking about them? is it becuase you emphesize with them? ** Jackass Alert ** Alert this, Jackass boy |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
BAR wrote:
In article , says... Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? Dick this, Chaney boy. If you are going to highlight every misspelled word or sytex error I make, you won't have time to cause your normal trouble. It is spelled syntax. My son and i donnut believe in education, it is a waste of time, and real men don't spend time in school. "i donnut" believe in education? Mister spelling and syntax rises to the occasion, again. Spell this, sytex boy |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
"BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... Who in hell is Dick Chaney, dummy? Dick this, Chaney boy. If you are going to highlight every misspelled word or sytex error I make, you won't have time to cause your normal trouble. It is spelled syntax. My son and i donnut believe in education, it is a waste of time, and real men don't spend time in school. "i donnut" believe in education? Mister spelling and syntax rises to the occasion, again. Hee hee! Maybe there is some 'good' in all this spoofing. I'm getting a big laugh at the dummies who are being fooled. (as if that is a big deal with the Dopey Army rejects) |
Calling all Global Warmist "scientists...
nom=de=plume wrote:
Well, since you won't give me your real name, then I give up. You win. Happy now? -- Nom=de=Plume Was never unhappy. You suck at patent searches. Guess you do not charge for success. I think you're just a fool with too much time on your hands. Get a life and if that happens, get back to us with the news. You and I are just like two peas in a pod. When someone gets too close to the truth, we let fly with insults. We should hook up during my upcoming trip to the Bay area. -- Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using someone else's ID |
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