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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:14:06 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: Steve B wrote: "bpuharic" wrote i guess he's unaware the basic spending plan was conceived by bush and bernanke. oh well...the right wing is big on myth not so much on facts So, if Jimmy jumps off of a cliff, are you going to also? Steve Which is what happeed. Democrat congress makes the debt-budget and Bush/Obama spent it. and the president has no role in it. uh huh |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:18:37 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:41 -0500, lil abner wrote: effect tiger woods had on my 401K: zero effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35% that's the conservative thing. Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager i'm not. obama's stimulus package has restored SOME value... . Me, I am up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close your eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency. ROFLMAO!! the right wing thinks obama's been president for the last 8 years... I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad. like i said...he thinks the dems have run the country for the last 8 years.... i guess to the right wing, bush was a democrat... Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that. If anything, you can blame democrate congress AND both of Bush and Obama. Obama did $1.3 trillion debt-corruption-spend in just 8 months in office! I would not doubt that is an all time recorded even compard to 9/11. Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending in a bill authored by the GOP phil gramm and his enron VP wife....pushin the 'free market' fundamentalism that dominated economic thinking for the last 30 years. Might have been, but Clinton being a democrat liberal, cheap loan money was more important than economic stability. and compounded by democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See, you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a debt willing congress. really? the biggest spender in history was george bush, with reagan not far behind oh well, i guess the right wing cant count... It took Bush 8 years with democrat congressional full support for Bush, Obama on the other hand is accumulation debt 5 times the rate, if not more. At Obama's rate, he will double the US national debt in under 8 years. By comparison, Bush wasn't that bad. DC mentality, either party is a debt-corruption mentality. The depression will not end until it is cleaned up a bit. Society can't afford the size of government any longer. |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:18:37 -0700, Canuck57 I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad. like i said...he thinks the dems have run the country for the last 8 years.... i guess to the right wing, bush was a democrat... Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that. and the pres proposes his own budget. the congress does not decide alone. that's the reality on capitol hill If anything, you can blame democrate congress AND both of Bush and Obama. Obama did $1.3 trillion debt-corruption-spend in just 8 months in office! I would not doubt that is an all time recorded even compard to 9/11. he did it to rescue the country from the free market fundamentalism of the GOP congresss from 1980 to the present. it's sound economics. if you've ever taken an economics course, it's standard economic theory. if the consumer collapses, SOMEONE has to step in to take up the slack otherwise the economy collapses free market fundies raped the middle class and transferred our money to their pockets. it's why the weathiest 1% own a huge amount of the wealth in this country Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending in a bill authored by the GOP phil gramm and his enron VP wife....pushin the 'free market' fundamentalism that dominated economic thinking for the last 30 years. Might have been, but Clinton being a democrat liberal, cheap loan money was more important than economic stability. well, no. clinton had a GOP congress and was a wounded president. the GOP congress took advantage of it. and compounded by democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See, you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a debt willing congress. really? the biggest spender in history was george bush, with reagan not far behind oh well, i guess the right wing cant count... It took Bush 8 years with democrat congressional full support for Bush, Obama on the other hand is accumulation debt 5 times the rate, if not more. At Obama's rate, he will double the US national debt in under 8 years. By comparison, Bush wasn't that bad. and the collapse of the economy engineered by the GOP over the last 30 years calls for drastic measures. this is merely a reflection of the destructive path the GOP has forged with its dedication to making the rich richer DC mentality, either party is a debt-corruption mentality. The depression will not end until it is cleaned up a bit. Society can't afford the size of government any longer. we can't afford the free market fundamentalism of the GOP |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:
Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that. Actually, the President does dictate the budget. http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155 |
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bpuharic wrote:
effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35% that's the conservative thing. Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager. Me, I am up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close your eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency. Yes, I took a dip just like everyone else, but it was a lifetime opportunity that has been handed to us by the dimwitt congress. You can make serious money in turbulant times. ;) I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad. Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending and compounded by democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See, you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a debt willing congress. Let's give credit to Carter who started it all with bank loan liberalization to minorities. which had zip to do with the crisis You obviously know little of banking. The whole idea was to avoid interest rates rising, allowing for government to have cheap debt and for minorities to get below value loans. Don't worry, this conservative libertarian picked up on the economic problems in 2007, I made money on the liberal debtor congress as they blatently ignored the ABCP and interterest rate inversion. When real savings rates net of taxes fall below inflation rates, a recession/depression is a guarantee if it continues. Many of us, eyes wide open did quite well with this opportunity. Think, if congress had any integrity and rationality in it, they could have jacked interest rates and tightened crredt to avoid the economic meltdown. But being debtor junkies, democrate congress ignored it. |
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"lil abner" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:41 -0500, lil abner wrote: jps wrote: Here's a man with some sense... PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. ? Jack Nicklaus said the fallout over Tiger Woods' car crash and allegations of extramarital affairs is "none of my business." "Our public is pretty forgiving at times," Nicklaus said Thursday. "Time usually heals all wounds. I think the hardest thing is obviously his family. That's a private matter for him and his family." Nicklaus won 18 major championships, the most in golf history. Woods is second with 14. That's where society is at. Forgive cheating on the family. Forgive cheating on American Citizens and our Constitution. Forgive every immoral or criminal act. Hell, anything goes. That's the modern Hollywood theme. That's the liberal thing. Oh, Alberto Gonzales must've been a liberal. And Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby and Jack Abramoff and Larry Craig, and Craig Vitter and Mark Sanford and Mark Foley and golly, there sure are a lot of liberals in GW Bush's cabinet and circle of friends. All told, I'd say you haven't a clue what you're talking about... Just the oposite to you. Both ends are assaulting us the middle. "That's the liberal thing". The stupid statement is as "middle" as Fox and CNBS are news. |
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:37:23 -0800, jps wrote:
Ah, The Perfect Wave is a true story, unlike Caddyshack (although I'm sure it was loosely based on real events, especially the Baby Ruth in the pool and the angry greenskeeper using C4 to go after the moles). Don't know how surfing got in here. But that's ok. Should be touch on the subject of fisherman and God? Neptune and Poseidon. More benevolent Gods than the golfer's overseer, who is wrathful, vengeful, and shoots lightning at golfers. Which was written, and so shall be. And quite rightfully so, IMO. --Vic |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:11:37 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: bpuharic wrote: effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35% Let's give credit to Carter who started it all with bank loan liberalization to minorities. which had zip to do with the crisis You obviously know little of banking. The whole idea was to avoid interest rates rising, allowing for government to have cheap debt and for minorities to get below value loans. hmmm....so you say. but there's one problem: i have the evidence. you have your myths the largest lender to go belly up was 'countrywide' which was not subject to CRA rules so, try again. Don't worry, this conservative libertarian picked up on the economic problems in 2007, I made money on the liberal debtor congress as they blatently ignored the ABCP and interterest rate inversion. When real savings rates net of taxes fall below inflation rates, a recession/depression is a guarantee if it continues. Many of us, eyes wide open did quite well with this opportunity. great. and the rest of us voted for obama and the democrats to reign in th free spending ways of the GOP Think, if congress had any integrity and rationality in it, they could have jacked interest rates and tightened crredt to avoid the economic meltdown. But being debtor junkies, democrate congress ignored it. after 6 years of the borrow and spend of the right wing GOP |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:04:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that. Actually, the President does dictate the budget. http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155 What is the first thing that the House does with the budget when they receive it from the president? Throw it on the shelf. and the pres does the same to the house budget when he gets it |
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