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"The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to
be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! |
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On Dec 5, 12:12*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? |
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
... On Dec 5, 12:12 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? Ummm.... no understanding of the scientific method? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 12:12 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? --------------- It has everything to do with blindly following the party line. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! More rational? You? giggle. |
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:24:55 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: On Dec 5, 12:12*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? You mean that it is, like, you know, um...political and not "science"? Ok...here... "The Met Office database is one of three main sources of temperature data analysis on which the UN’s main climate change science body relies for its assessment that global warming is a serious danger to the world. This assessment is the basis for next week’s climate change talks in Copenhagen aimed at cutting CO2 emissions." Poster's Note: The other two data sets? Um...they are based on CRU's findings including NASA's. Heh, heh, heh. "The Government is attempting to stop the Met Office from carrying out the re-examination, arguing that it would be seized upon by climate change sceptics." See that paragraph? Trying to stop the reconstruction of science for political purposes? I thought this was about SCIENCE man - come one - it's settled - what are they afraid of? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6945445.ece NOT!! Or how about the fact that, when world wide uncorrputed data is done in a regression analysis it shows that 87% (ex-urban temps we're talking about) show no presence of AGW? Or this - Bob Greiner, who is a complete agnostic with regards to AGW pretty much shows how the "science" was "cooked" with false and misrepresentative data. http://cubeantics.com/2009/12/the-pr...-tell-them-to/ It's a house of cards Loogy - a complete and total fraud. There there's lots more coming along - just wait until you see the NASA stuff (and believe me - they are fighting the release of the data sets tooth and nail under FOIA) and what Jim Hansen lied about. Whooeee - gonna make Algore really look stupid. |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn. -- John H |
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On Dec 5, 3:35*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:24:55 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 12:12*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? You mean that it is, like, you know, um...political and not "science"? No, that's not what I asked, my question, exactly was: Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? |
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On Dec 5, 3:48*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the most scientifically stupid statement I've ever heard. |
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Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 5, 3:48 pm, John wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the most scientifically stupid statement I've ever heard. I took it as a joke. Rob |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! I note the A. Does that mean you accept that there is global warming, just not anthropologically caused? I ask, because some of the "flat earthers" deny *any* global warming. For them, a few out of context passages from some hacked emails, overweight all the retreating glaciers, Northwest Passage access, and retreating pack ice. For me, the science that the planet is warming, is clear. The science that it is anthropological, is less clear. However, I have a question. While I can't say with certainty, that global warming is anthropological, can you say with certainty, it is not? |
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On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:29:15 -0500, Rob wrote:
Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 3:48 pm, John wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of “a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the most scientifically stupid statement I've ever heard. I took it as a joke. Rob Now I'm ****ed. That was meant to be as scientific as some of the other **** spewed by the Algore fanatics. Joke my ass. -- John H |
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On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:51:16 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of ?a natural process of dry and wet periods.? The present melting is not the result of ?environmental damage caused by man.? http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! I note the A. Does that mean you accept that there is global warming, just not anthropologically caused? I ask, because some of the "flat earthers" deny *any* global warming. For them, a few out of context passages from some hacked emails, overweight all the retreating glaciers, Northwest Passage access, and retreating pack ice. For me, the science that the planet is warming, is clear. The science that it is anthropological, is less clear. However, I have a question. While I can't say with certainty, that global warming is anthropological, can you say with certainty, it is not? That's the same type question Loogy would ask. The question has to do with 'degree'. Given that some warming may have occurred over the past century and a half, *how much*, i.e., what percent, is anthropologic? The Algores would have us believe, with extremely dubious proof, that the percent is extremely high and that multiple trillions of dollars will reduce it. Horse****. -- John H |
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On Dec 6, 8:23*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:29:15 -0500, Rob wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 3:48 pm, John *wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports *wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn.. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the most scientifically stupid statement I've ever heard. I took it as a joke. Rob Now I'm ****ed. That was meant to be as scientific as some of the other **** spewed by the Algore fanatics. Joke my ass. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Examples please? |
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:54:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: On Dec 6, 8:23*am, John H wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:29:15 -0500, Rob wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 3:48 pm, John *wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports *wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the most scientifically stupid statement I've ever heard. I took it as a joke. Rob Now I'm ****ed. That was meant to be as scientific as some of the other **** spewed by the Algore fanatics. Joke my ass. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Examples please? Go look at your last twenty-three posts on the subject. -- John H |
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On Dec 6, 12:18*pm, John H wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:54:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 6, 8:23*am, John H wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:29:15 -0500, Rob wrote: Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 3:48 pm, John *wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports *wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! This damn global warming has got almost two inches of snow on my lawn. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's about the most scientifically stupid statement I've ever heard. I took it as a joke. Rob Now I'm ****ed. That was meant to be as scientific as some of the other **** spewed by the Algore fanatics. Joke my ass. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Examples please? Go look at your last twenty-three posts on the subject. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As suspected............ No evidence of such, just more blather. |
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I am Tosk wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of ?a natural process of dry and wet periods.? The present melting is not the result of ?environmental damage caused by man.? http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! I note the A. Does that mean you accept that there is global warming, just not anthropologically caused? I ask, because some of the "flat earthers" deny *any* global warming. For them, a few out of context passages from some hacked emails, overweight all the retreating glaciers, Northwest Passage access, and retreating pack ice. For me, the science that the planet is warming, is clear. The science that it is anthropological, is less clear. However, I have a question. While I can't say with certainty, that global warming is anthropological, can you say with certainty, it is not? So already the name calling starts, now we are "flat earthers"? Is that the new term to use around the coffee table? snerk. There is some pretty good evidence that the warming is normal and more related to changes in that big yellow earth warmer in the sky. Oh, and it isn't faked either;) Flat earther would be many steps up the ladder for a shiftless sloth like you. |
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
... In article , says... On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:12:26 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of ?a natural process of dry and wet periods.? The present melting is not the result of ?environmental damage caused by man.? http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! I note the A. Does that mean you accept that there is global warming, just not anthropologically caused? I ask, because some of the "flat earthers" deny *any* global warming. For them, a few out of context passages from some hacked emails, overweight all the retreating glaciers, Northwest Passage access, and retreating pack ice. For me, the science that the planet is warming, is clear. The science that it is anthropological, is less clear. However, I have a question. While I can't say with certainty, that global warming is anthropological, can you say with certainty, it is not? So already the name calling starts, now we are "flat earthers"? Is that the new term to use around the coffee table? snerk. There is some pretty good evidence that the warming is normal and more related to changes in that big yellow earth warmer in the sky. Oh, and it isn't faked either;) No, the evidence is pretty clear that human beings are the cause of the climate changes in recent times. Perhaps you should just be called a ludite. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Dec 6, 7:32*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:10:48 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 3:35*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:24:55 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 12:12*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *“a natural process of dry and wet periods.” The present melting is not the result of “environmental damage caused by man.” http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? You mean that it is, like, you know, um...political and not "science"? No, that's not what I asked, my question, exactly was: Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? A simple question is...... why is so much *really old* ice melting? Such as: 7 years ago the Commie News Network (CNN) makes Ridiculous claims:http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sc...hwest.passage/ 2009, OMG.....http://community.livejournal.com/ont...l/4079088.html -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gene, it's obvious that those idiot scientists don't know what they're talking about. Rush and Hannity should be the ONLY people you should get your information from about global warming. |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:34:21 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote: In article 4a6c3822-4e19-47bd-91fc-58e581135c61 , says... On Dec 6, 7:32*pm, Gene wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:10:48 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 3:35*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:24:55 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Dec 5, 12:12*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "The melting and freezing of moisture on top of Kilimanjaro appears to be part of *?a natural process of dry and wet periods.? The present melting is not the result of ?environmental damage caused by man.? http://tinyurl.com/yjrgovc http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture08520.html Ooopsie - what with the CRU scandal, the impending NASA data scandal (which, but the way I foretold almost two months ago), the fact that there has been no AGW that anybody who uses real instead of faked data can find, it's been bad couple of weeks for the Church of AGW. Don't worry - those of us more rational folks feel your pain. NOT!!! Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? You mean that it is, like, you know, um...political and not "science"? No, that's not what I asked, my question, exactly was: Okay, so how in hell does THAT make one conclude irrefutably that global warming isn't happening? A simple question is...... why is so much *really old* ice melting? Such as: 7 years ago the Commie News Network (CNN) makes Ridiculous claims:http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sc...hwest.passage/ 2009, OMG.....http://community.livejournal.com/ont...l/4079088.html -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gene, it's obvious that those idiot scientists don't know what they're talking about. Rush and Hannity should be the ONLY people you should get your information from about global warming. Wow, you are still defending them. The ICPP is a fraud. It's time for Washington to admit it and protect us from the biggest fraud in the history of the world. We can't make plans based of faked science, we would be fools... He has become a waste of time. -- John H |
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