Bitchin and whining
 

Lu Powell wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".


Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL,
where I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in
Air Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime
of unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many
of our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their
snobbery and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too
precious to spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I
plonked my self from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.



Sorry to see you leave, Lu. Peace be with you.

Bitchin and whining
 

On Nov 20, 9:28*am, Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. *They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. *She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. *When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. *People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. *When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. *If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL,
where I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in
Air Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime
of unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many
of our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their
snobbery and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too
precious to spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I
plonked my self from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Sorry to see you leave, Lu. Peace be with you.

If jps thinks capitalism is bad, then she is simply doing it wrong.
It is the only system that provides a mechanism for people to obtain
economic freedom. Nobody says a person has to be a wage slave, people
sell themselves into wage slavery.
jps thinks that if I get rich by starting a company then I should
expect to be taxed an extraordinary amount? This makes no sense, why
punish success? By being successful, a person pays his dues by
providing employment. I have no problem with moderate taxation but a
system that attempts to punish success is doomed to produce mediocrity
because it rewards mediocrity.
I do not see any logical relationship between great wealth and great
responsibility. However, anybody who builds a company that generates
great wealth has also provided jobs and has fulfilled any potential
responsibility. Most people who build such wealth go far beyond that,
after all, look at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation trying to end
the greatest scourge of mankind, Malaria. Most people who build
wealth are ambitious and are not satisfied with just wealth, they want
to do more. Look at Jeff Bezos building spacecraft with his billions,
look at Elon Musk.
Other people who have simply amassed great wealth like George Soros do
it thru manipulating the system. They are not capitalists but are
statists and they do not do anything useful but are parasites. Al
Gore is another example of an economic parasite.
Historically we can look at other builders of great wealth such as the
Carnegies. Thru the Carnegie foundation they built many libraries
throughout the country and endowed many universities such as Florida A
& M, an historicaly black university started via Carnegie money. By
contrast, all Karl Marx did was produce a philosophy that murdered a
hundred million people and destroyed wealth.
Production of wealth (not just its accumulation) is the highest form
of altruism and should be rewarded.

Bitchin and whining
 

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:56:36 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".

Unfortunately, this is true. It might get around to him. But once
invisible, they will find Obama will not pay for their gas or mortgage.
A wakeup call for those that are stupid enough to believe in
Obamanation and statism.

Unfortunately, you haven't a clue...

You enjoyed nation building and giveaways to the wealthiest? I'm
hoping you reside in Canada, having so much to say about our fine
policies in the US.

Do you run your own business? Lifelong employee?

Bitchin and whining
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Frogwatch wrote:
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".

Unfortunately, this is true. It might get around to him. But once
invisible, they will find Obama will not pay for their gas or mortgage. A
wakeup call for those that are stupid enough to believe in Obamanation and
statism.


Unfortunately, you don't know much about history in the US if you think
statism is somehow a negative force. That ship (to use the ng metaphor)
sailed along time ago. We do not, have not, nor will we ever have a
capitalistic system without gov't involvement, and sometimes we need deep
gov't involvement. That type of capitalism has never and can never exist,
since it is DOA. It's been tried in watered down form in several places and
was an abject failure every time. Even Pinochet rejected the more extreme
version of it.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Bitchin and whining
 

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".


Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where
I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air
Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of
our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery
and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to
spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self
from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.


Duh!
Froggy was talking about working for yourself. You just admitted you spent
your entire career in the service of government.

Bitchin and whining
 

On Nov 20, 2:29*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message

...





"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. *They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. *She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. *When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. *People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. *When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. *If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where
I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air
Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of
our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery
and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to
spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self
from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Duh!
Froggy was talking about working for yourself. *You just admitted you spent
your entire career in the service of *government.

I gotta go make my tax deposit for the crime of having employees.

Bitchin and whining
 

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:29:15 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".


Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where
I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air
Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of
our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery
and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to
spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self
from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.


Duh!
Froggy was talking about working for yourself. You just admitted you spent
your entire career in the service of government.

On the dole and having the government taking "his hard earned money."

What was this man of the sheeple saying when we were killing Iraqis
and spilling blood and money? Go Bush go.

The self-righteous chickenhawks were screaming that disenters were
guilty of being unpatrioitc, guilty of sedition, creampuffs.

Independent until he gets into the voting booth, then it's **** you,
I've got mine.

Bitchin and whining
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Nov 20, 5:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Nov 20, 3:25 pm, jps wrote:



On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:29:15 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like
jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but
instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody
else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself
and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the
blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we
moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL,
where
I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air
Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate
school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed
and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a
dime
of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many
of
our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing
that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the
bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard
earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't
do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their
snobbery
and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to
spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my
self
from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Duh!
Froggy was talking about working for yourself. You just admitted you
spent
your entire career in the service of government.

On the dole and having the government taking "his hard earned money."

What was this man of the sheeple saying when we were killing Iraqis
and spilling blood and money? Go Bush go.

The self-righteous chickenhawks were screaming that disenters were
guilty of being unpatrioitc, guilty of sedition, creampuffs.

Independent until he gets into the voting booth, then it's **** you,
I've got mine.
jps: We voted Repubs out of office in 2006 for spending too much
money, we expected (or at least some expected) the dems to do better,
not far worse.

Too bad Bush didn't leave earlier. Perhaps he wouldn't have had to get the
first stim going. I guess saving money on healthcare isn't better in your
opinion.

The war in Iraq as of the end of the Bush admin had cost LESS than the
so -called "stimulus" that was nothing but a giveaway to O's friends.

Except that Bush presided over the financial debacle and Obama is trying
to
fix it. Certainly, Bush didn't have any friends on Wall Street or at
Haliburton, et. al.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Troubled Assett Relief Program. Now, how many mortgages bought by
this under Bozoma? It is only on the order of 10,000, the rest went
into Obams buddies pockets.

?? FYI, it's Asset. It passed during Bush's presidency.

3 trillion for Iraq, only under Bozoma could this happen. If we had
eight more years of Bush it would be far less than another 757 billion
it cost under his term.

This is the estimated cost. Troop levels are down and going down further.
This was a war of choice, not of necessity that Bush started.

Guess what, Bush and the Repubs warned the dems the meltdown was going
to happen. The Dems denied it. BArney Frank said Freddie Mac and
Fannie Mae were perfectly solvent (of course his lover was part of
Freddie Mac) while Obama was being given money by them.

You're ranting. They warned no one. They were clueless. Then, ooops... Feel
free to blame Frank if that makes you feel better. Why don't you mention
that he's gay again. I'm sure that'll help your position.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Bitchin and whining
 

On Nov 20, 6:40*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Nov 20, 5:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

....
On Nov 20, 3:25 pm, jps wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:29:15 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her..
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like
jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but
instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody
else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself
and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the
blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we
moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL,
where
I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air
Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate
school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed
and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a
dime
of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many
of
our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing
that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the
bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard
earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't
do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their
snobbery
and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to
spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my
self
from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Duh!
Froggy was talking about working for yourself. You just admitted you
spent
your entire career in the service of government.

On the dole and having the government taking "his hard earned money."

What was this man of the sheeple saying when we were killing Iraqis
and spilling blood and money? Go Bush go.

The self-righteous chickenhawks were screaming that disenters were
guilty of being unpatrioitc, guilty of sedition, creampuffs.

Independent until he gets into the voting booth, then it's **** you,
I've got mine.
jps: We voted Repubs out of office in 2006 for spending too much
money, we expected (or at least some expected) the dems to do better,
not far worse.

Too bad Bush didn't leave earlier. Perhaps he wouldn't have had to get the
first stim going. I guess saving money on healthcare isn't better in your
opinion.

The war in Iraq as of the end of the Bush admin had cost LESS than the
so -called "stimulus" that was nothing but a giveaway to O's friends.

Except that Bush presided over the financial debacle and Obama is trying
to
fix it. Certainly, Bush didn't have any friends on Wall Street or at
Haliburton, et. al.

--
Nom=de=Plume
Troubled Assett Relief Program. *Now, how many mortgages bought by
this under Bozoma? *It is only on the order of 10,000, the rest went
into Obams buddies pockets.

?? FYI, it's Asset. It passed during Bush's presidency.

3 trillion for Iraq, only under Bozoma could this happen. *If we had
eight more years of Bush it would be far less than another 757 billion
it cost under his term.

This is the estimated cost. Troop levels are down and going down further.
This was a war of choice, not of necessity that Bush started.

Guess what, Bush and the Repubs warned the dems the meltdown was going
to happen. *The Dems denied it. *BArney Frank said Freddie Mac and
Fannie Mae were perfectly solvent (of course his lover was part of
Freddie Mac) while Obama was being given money by them.

You're ranting. They warned no one. They were clueless. Then, ooops... Feel
free to blame Frank if that makes you feel better. Why don't you mention
that he's gay again. I'm sure that'll help your position.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Nom: It is a matter of record that the Dems were warned by that
Freddie Mac was in trouble and that Frank replied that it was
financially sound although he knew it was not. You may deny all you
want but it is established fact.

Bitchin and whining
 

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:20:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 20, 6:40*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Nov 20, 5:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Nov 20, 3:25 pm, jps wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:29:15 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like
jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but
instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody
else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself
and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the
blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we
moved
to a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL,
where
I stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air
Force, followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in
military reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate
school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed
and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a
dime
of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many
of
our younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state
should care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing
that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the
bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard
earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't
do
for themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who
would take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their
snobbery
and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to
spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my
self
from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Duh!
Froggy was talking about working for yourself. You just admitted you
spent
your entire career in the service of government.

On the dole and having the government taking "his hard earned money."

What was this man of the sheeple saying when we were killing Iraqis
and spilling blood and money? Go Bush go.

The self-righteous chickenhawks were screaming that disenters were
guilty of being unpatrioitc, guilty of sedition, creampuffs.

Independent until he gets into the voting booth, then it's **** you,
I've got mine.
jps: We voted Repubs out of office in 2006 for spending too much
money, we expected (or at least some expected) the dems to do better,
not far worse.

Too bad Bush didn't leave earlier. Perhaps he wouldn't have had to get the
first stim going. I guess saving money on healthcare isn't better in your
opinion.

The war in Iraq as of the end of the Bush admin had cost LESS than the
so -called "stimulus" that was nothing but a giveaway to O's friends.

Except that Bush presided over the financial debacle and Obama is trying
to
fix it. Certainly, Bush didn't have any friends on Wall Street or at
Haliburton, et. al.

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Nom=de=Plume
Troubled Assett Relief Program. *Now, how many mortgages bought by
this under Bozoma? *It is only on the order of 10,000, the rest went
into Obams buddies pockets.

?? FYI, it's Asset. It passed during Bush's presidency.

3 trillion for Iraq, only under Bozoma could this happen. *If we had
eight more years of Bush it would be far less than another 757 billion
it cost under his term.

This is the estimated cost. Troop levels are down and going down further.
This was a war of choice, not of necessity that Bush started.

Guess what, Bush and the Repubs warned the dems the meltdown was going
to happen. *The Dems denied it. *BArney Frank said Freddie Mac and
Fannie Mae were perfectly solvent (of course his lover was part of
Freddie Mac) while Obama was being given money by them.

You're ranting. They warned no one. They were clueless. Then, ooops... Feel
free to blame Frank if that makes you feel better. Why don't you mention
that he's gay again. I'm sure that'll help your position.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Nom: It is a matter of record that the Dems were warned by that
Freddie Mac was in trouble and that Frank replied that it was
financially sound although he knew it was not. You may deny all you
want but it is established fact.

John Boner lies every single day. Yesterday I think he said something
about every woman being forced to have an abortion.

Barney may have fudged (no pun intended) and from what I've read, the
R's think he should be put to death without a trial.

Of course, that's the way R's prefer to settle disputes.