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On Nov 22, 12:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 11/22/09 1:30 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:10:31 -0800, "nom=de=plume" *wrote: Em, the question has to do with whether or not Christ was a community organizer. *Though, what is described in this encyclopedic definition does not parallel what is described or recorded of the early church.. Early Christianity was set apart from the community-at-large in nearly all corners of the Roman empire. I have no doubt you would have termed it pre-Christian if you'd have anticipated the tight cranial sphincter of the insurance salesman. As you know, there was no "Christian" community during Jesus' life. He was part of the Jewish *Community*. *It was a large community, with everyone attending the same Temple. *Jesus' followers were Jews who were dissatisfied with the Temple and thought his ideas had merit. *He was the leader of a group that organized people to consider a different approach to Judaism and life. *He tended to their needs. I'm sure any lesser mind can discount that he was a community organizer in the modern sense, but he was. It was decades before followers of Jesus formed their own synagogue to pursue what eventually became Christianity 10 decades later. *And, from what I recall, that happened in Italy and elsewhere, not Israel. The insurance salesman's disingenuous responses are only meant to win an argument, an artful response to your common sense. In point of fact, Jesus was a pious Jew, and did not "preach" to the pagans. The pagans were the non-Jews in the area where he allegedly lived and preached. He also did not "convert" any Jews or pagans to a new religion. Christianity, as with every other religion, is a creation of man. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. Herr Krause. You say you have doubts that Jesus ever existed, and yet you seem to be such an self-appointed expert on his life and witness. How so? |
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