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Eddie November 18th 09 11:04 PM

anchor questions
 
Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie

JustJohn H November 18th 09 11:11 PM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:04:10 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


Google can be your friend.

http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorin.htm
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorwn.htm
--

John H

Don White November 18th 09 11:17 PM

anchor questions
 

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


Oh boy. At this time I'd recommend a Power Squadron course to get familiar
with the basics.
As a general rule you should have a rode seven times longer than the deepest
water you'll anchor in.
As part of the rode...chain equal to your boat length.
You've probably seen the different types of anchors around...so if you know
what type you have it would help.
example I have a little mushroom anchor with my open aluminum boat but
you'd have maybe a plow type or Danforth.
see:
http://boatingsailing.suite101.com/a...f_boat_anchors
and:
http://images.google.ca/images?clien...ed=0CB0QsAQwAw



Vic Smith November 18th 09 11:18 PM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:04:10 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


I've used an anchor many times.
It works by holding your boat in one place, if it's working.
Has to be heavy enough to dig into the mud or sand.
Or maybe it will get stuck in some debris. That's bad though.
Have to have at least 3 times the depth of the water of rope.
They call that scope. If the anchor is straight down it won't work
well.
To disengage you get right over it and pull it straight up.
If it's stuck you cut the rope or chain. That's why you use rope.
Cuts easier.
A windlass is similar to a pulley on a tow truck, but for a boat.
Electric powered, or cranked by hand.
Probably safer. You don't want to take a wrap of anchor rope around
your hand, especially when somebody else is near the throttle.
My stepmother lost 3 fingers doing that. That's why she's now called
Elayne 2-fingers. Think that math is right.

--Vic
enough rope to reach the bottom

Eddie November 18th 09 11:42 PM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:11:42 -0500, JustJohn H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:04:10 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


Google can be your friend.

http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorin.htm
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorwn.htm


Excellent links John. Both are keepers. Thanks!

I like this: "A handy device is an anchor retrieval system, which
uses a buoy attached to the rode to help break the anchor free."

Gonna put it on my shopping list.
Eddie



Eddie November 18th 09 11:48 PM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:



Oh boy. At this time I'd recommend a Power Squadron course to get familiar
with the basics.

Where? How much?
As a general rule you should have a rode seven times longer than the deepest
water you'll anchor in.
As part of the rode...chain equal to your boat length.

Rode is a word I've never seen or heard. (the nautical term version) I
thought it was a typo until I went to the links provided by John.
You've probably seen the different types of anchors around...so if you know
what type you have it would help.
example I have a little mushroom anchor with my open aluminum boat but
you'd have maybe a plow type or Danforth.

It is a Danforth.
Thanks Don.
Eddie

see:
http://boatingsailing.suite101.com/a...f_boat_anchors
and:
http://images.google.ca/images?clien...ed=0CB0QsAQwAw


jps November 19th 09 12:04 AM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:18:25 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:04:10 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


I've used an anchor many times.
It works by holding your boat in one place, if it's working.
Has to be heavy enough to dig into the mud or sand.
Or maybe it will get stuck in some debris. That's bad though.
Have to have at least 3 times the depth of the water of rope.
They call that scope. If the anchor is straight down it won't work
well.
To disengage you get right over it and pull it straight up.
If it's stuck you cut the rope or chain. That's why you use rope.
Cuts easier.
A windlass is similar to a pulley on a tow truck, but for a boat.
Electric powered, or cranked by hand.
Probably safer. You don't want to take a wrap of anchor rope around
your hand, especially when somebody else is near the throttle.
My stepmother lost 3 fingers doing that. That's why she's now called
Elayne 2-fingers. Think that math is right.

--Vic


You just made my eyes water from laughter.

jps November 19th 09 12:12 AM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:04:10 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


Eddie,

You need one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti.../dp/1588160890

All sorts of good basic information on equipment, lines, knots,
anchors, handling, weather, maintenance, etc. Good investment for
your peace of mind and safety of you and yours.

It's not a car, there's real danger out there and having basic
knowledge can really save your ass, nevermind your life.

Eddie November 19th 09 01:48 AM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:12:46 -0800, jps wrote:



You need one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti.../dp/1588160890

All sorts of good basic information on equipment, lines, knots,
anchors, handling, weather, maintenance, etc. Good investment for
your peace of mind and safety of you and yours.

It's not a car, there's real danger out there and having basic
knowledge can really save your ass, nevermind your life.

jps, do you think there's a big difference between the 64th edition
and the other two, 65 and 66? There's a huge difference in the used
versions between the three. ($15 vs $30)
I was ready to order but thought I'd check with you first. I'm
leaning towards the $15 one. Ok, I'm cheap! :-)
Eddie

jps November 19th 09 02:19 AM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:48:41 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:12:46 -0800, jps wrote:



You need one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti.../dp/1588160890

All sorts of good basic information on equipment, lines, knots,
anchors, handling, weather, maintenance, etc. Good investment for
your peace of mind and safety of you and yours.

It's not a car, there's real danger out there and having basic
knowledge can really save your ass, nevermind your life.

jps, do you think there's a big difference between the 64th edition
and the other two, 65 and 66? There's a huge difference in the used
versions between the three. ($15 vs $30)
I was ready to order but thought I'd check with you first. I'm
leaning towards the $15 one. Ok, I'm cheap! :-)
Eddie


Very little diffference Eddie. I admire your thrift. You'll need it
in order to afford everything you're going to throw in that hole in
the water!

You might even try used book stores in your area. If you find a
section on all things nautical, you may find some other cool reading
materials. Much better than late night television...

Don White November 19th 09 02:23 AM

anchor questions
 

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:



Oh boy. At this time I'd recommend a Power Squadron course to get familiar
with the basics.

Where? How much?


** I could give you the Canadian site but I'm guessing you are south of the
border. Use that Google fella to find the US Power Squadron nearest you.**

As a general rule you should have a rode seven times longer than the
deepest
water you'll anchor in.
As part of the rode...chain equal to your boat length.

Rode is a word I've never seen or heard. (the nautical term version) I
thought it was a typo until I went to the links provided by John.
You've probably seen the different types of anchors around...so if you
know
what type you have it would help.
example I have a little mushroom anchor with my open aluminum boat but
you'd have maybe a plow type or Danforth.

It is a Danforth.
Thanks Don.
Eddie

see:
http://boatingsailing.suite101.com/a...f_boat_anchors
and:
http://images.google.ca/images?clien...ed=0CB0QsAQwAw




Don White November 19th 09 02:25 AM

anchor questions
 

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:12:46 -0800, jps wrote:



You need one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti.../dp/1588160890

All sorts of good basic information on equipment, lines, knots,
anchors, handling, weather, maintenance, etc. Good investment for
your peace of mind and safety of you and yours.

It's not a car, there's real danger out there and having basic
knowledge can really save your ass, nevermind your life.

jps, do you think there's a big difference between the 64th edition
and the other two, 65 and 66? There's a huge difference in the used
versions between the three. ($15 vs $30)
I was ready to order but thought I'd check with you first. I'm
leaning towards the $15 one. Ok, I'm cheap! :-)
Eddie


I've got the 64th edition and I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon.



Wayne.B November 19th 09 04:12 PM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:48:41 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

do you think there's a big difference between the 64th edition
and the other two, 65 and 66? There's a huge difference in the used
versions between the three. ($15 vs $30)
I was ready to order but thought I'd check with you first. I'm
leaning towards the $15 one. Ok, I'm cheap! :-)


Investing in a new Chapman's is one of the cheapest boating
investments you can make. There is a lot to learn about boats and
boating, and mistakes can be very expensive. Do yourself a favor and
buy a new one but an older version is a lot better than none at all.

One of the key things to learn about anchors is knowing how and where
you are going to use it. A 13 pound Danforth anchor is totally
suitable on a boat your size for average conditions during the day
when you can keep an eye on things. If you are going to anchor all
night however I'd get a 20 pounder, and if you are going to anchor all
night in a grassy bottom or in windy conditions, I'd get a 40 pound
Spade, Rocna or Delta Plow. The Spades and Rocnas are expensive but
they are absolutely the best all around anchors you can buy.


JustJohn H November 20th 09 01:44 AM

anchor questions
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:42:05 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:11:42 -0500, JustJohn H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:04:10 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Hello all. I'm sorry, but I think this may sound stupid but I don't
know anything about anchors.
I have a 31' Regal and have never used the anchor. The few times I've
used the boat is just for cruising, have never needed to stop in the
middle of the water like some people I see especially fishermen.
So how does it work? What if the water is too deep? If I lower it
how does it hook up below the water? How do I disengage it? What if
it's stuck and unable to disengage? Do I cut it? What if it's a
metal chain?
And finally, what is a windlass? How does it work?
Thanks for any help
Eddie


Google can be your friend.

http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorin.htm
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorwn.htm


Excellent links John. Both are keepers. Thanks!

I like this: "A handy device is an anchor retrieval system, which
uses a buoy attached to the rode to help break the anchor free."

Gonna put it on my shopping list.
Eddie


I've never used one, but I've never anchored a 31' boat. My biggest
has been a 21'er, and it was plenty hard enough to retrieve the anchor
when I had a 150' out and the wind was blowing a bit.
--

John H

Eddie November 20th 09 02:19 AM

anchor questions
 
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:12:45 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:48:41 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

do you think there's a big difference between the 64th edition
and the other two, 65 and 66? There's a huge difference in the used
versions between the three. ($15 vs $30)
I was ready to order but thought I'd check with you first. I'm
leaning towards the $15 one. Ok, I'm cheap! :-)


Investing in a new Chapman's is one of the cheapest boating
investments you can make. There is a lot to learn about boats and
boating, and mistakes can be very expensive. Do yourself a favor and
buy a new one but an older version is a lot better than none at all.

One of the key things to learn about anchors is knowing how and where
you are going to use it. A 13 pound Danforth anchor is totally
suitable on a boat your size for average conditions during the day
when you can keep an eye on things. If you are going to anchor all
night however I'd get a 20 pounder, and if you are going to anchor all
night in a grassy bottom or in windy conditions, I'd get a 40 pound
Spade, Rocna or Delta Plow. The Spades and Rocnas are expensive but
they are absolutely the best all around anchors you can buy.

Advice well taken Wayne. And thanks for the information a weights.
I'll be ordering the $15 one and start there.
Eddie

Wayne.B November 20th 09 02:29 PM

anchor questions
 
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:19:27 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Advice well taken Wayne. And thanks for the information a weights.
I'll be ordering the $15 one and start there.


There are several areas where an older Chapman's will be obsolete.
That's OK if you know what's missing. One important area is
electronic navigation which has changed radically in the last 15 years
or so. Another is anchors believe it or not. Danforths have been
around a long time and are well understood but both Spade and Rocna
are new in the last 10 years and have totally changed things.


jps November 20th 09 05:47 PM

anchor questions
 
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:29:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:19:27 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

Advice well taken Wayne. And thanks for the information a weights.
I'll be ordering the $15 one and start there.


There are several areas where an older Chapman's will be obsolete.
That's OK if you know what's missing. One important area is
electronic navigation which has changed radically in the last 15 years
or so. Another is anchors believe it or not. Danforths have been
around a long time and are well understood but both Spade and Rocna
are new in the last 10 years and have totally changed things.


I'm sure he won't be missing much between the 64th and 65th editions.

It also doesn't need to be his sole source of information. There's
lots of information on these here tubes, the internets.


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