Boat electricital question
 

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve


This should tell you what you want to know.
http://www.sheridanhouse.com/excerpt...ngexcerpt.html

--Vic

Boat electricital question
 

SteveB wrote:
When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve


A circuit is not complete without positive and negative wires going to
the battery. If you want to share grounds, the ground wire must be of
sufficient size to carry the current of all the devices that use the
common ground at any given time. It is not good practice to share bilge
pump grounds, however.

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:10:37 -0500, Jim wrote:

SteveB wrote:
When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve


A circuit is not complete without positive and negative wires going to
the battery. If you want to share grounds, the ground wire must be of
sufficient size to carry the current of all the devices that use the
common ground at any given time. It is not good practice to share bilge
pump grounds, however.

Agreed and something that is not often considered when using common
grounds. It's also a good idea to use a bus bar to ground as the
common load is distributed much more betterer.

I do that on all the boats I've owned over the years including the
Grady. One extra little advantage of having a common bus bar ground
is trouble shooting - labels help a lot.

Boat electricital question
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:10:37 -0500, Jim wrote:

SteveB wrote:
When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve


A circuit is not complete without positive and negative wires going to
the battery. If you want to share grounds, the ground wire must be of
sufficient size to carry the current of all the devices that use the
common ground at any given time. It is not good practice to share bilge
pump grounds, however.

Agreed and something that is not often considered when using common
grounds. It's also a good idea to use a bus bar to ground as the
common load is distributed much more betterer.

I do that on all the boats I've owned over the years including the
Grady. One extra little advantage of having a common bus bar ground
is trouble shooting - labels help a lot.

Electrical problems can be quite vexing. labeling and isolating are
excellent tools. You are a wise man.

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. I hope the boat is
aluminum.

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:45:28 -0500, Jim wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:10:37 -0500, Jim wrote:

SteveB wrote:
When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve


A circuit is not complete without positive and negative wires going to
the battery. If you want to share grounds, the ground wire must be of
sufficient size to carry the current of all the devices that use the
common ground at any given time. It is not good practice to share bilge
pump grounds, however.

Agreed and something that is not often considered when using common
grounds. It's also a good idea to use a bus bar to ground as the
common load is distributed much more betterer.

I do that on all the boats I've owned over the years including the
Grady. One extra little advantage of having a common bus bar ground
is trouble shooting - labels help a lot.

Electrical problems can be quite vexing. labeling and isolating are
excellent tools. You are a wise man.

Bwaaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaa!

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:30:37 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:54:27 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. I hope the boat is
aluminum.

What difference would that make? unless you intend to electroplate the
prop with the hull.....

Exactly. My best wishes for the original poster.

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:38:40 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:30:37 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:54:27 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. I hope the boat is
aluminum.

What difference would that make? unless you intend to electroplate the
prop with the hull.....

Exactly. My best wishes for the original poster.

"Whatever happened to that black bitch who was screeching Obama was
going to buy her gas and make her payments? A follow up interview
with her would be interesting."

Steve

Boat electricital question
 

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:54:27 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it
best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just
ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just
wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. I hope the boat is
aluminum.

What difference would that make? unless you intend to electroplate the
prop with the hull......
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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You'll have to forgive jps. He knows everything there is to know, and is
quite vexed by those of us who don't. I take the easy way out, and have him
killfiled.

Steve

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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:44 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:54:27 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it
best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just
ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just
wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. I hope the boat is
aluminum.

What difference would that make? unless you intend to electroplate the
prop with the hull......
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1181

You'll have to forgive jps. He knows everything there is to know, and is
quite vexed by those of us who don't. I take the easy way out, and have him
killfiled.

Steve

"Whatever happened to that black bitch who was screeching Obama was
going to buy her gas and make her payments? A follow up interview
with her would be interesting."

Steve

Boat electricital question
 

On Nov 16, 10:03*pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:44 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:







"Gene" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:54:27 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it
best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just
ground
it there not far from the use? *It's a basic question, but I just
wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. *I hope the boat is
aluminum.

What difference would that make? unless you intend to electroplate the
prop with the hull......
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1181

You'll have to forgive jps. *He knows everything there is to know, and is
quite vexed by those of us who don't. *I take the easy way out, and have him
killfiled.

Steve

"Whatever happened to that black bitch who was screeching Obama was
going to buy her gas and make her payments? *A follow up interview
with her would be interesting."

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.. Another hypocrite, uber-
lib... Nice elitist attitude he has there... WAFA...

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?

Boat electricital question
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just
ground it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just
wondered if there's any difference.

Steve


On an aluminum boat run separate line for ground. Run a hot and ground to a
distribution panel. Then tap off the panel, I use a fuse panel, for the
loads. Running the ground as the boat hull, causes electrolysis and holes.

Boat electricital question
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.


I didn't talk about what he said, I quoted his words. A stark
vignette presented by the petty bigot from Bum****, Utah.

Did you want to talk about my choice of screwdrivers some more?

Boat electricital question
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?



~~ Snerk ~~
I thought The Freak was organizing a boycot against all Harry posts.
What a joke!

Boat electricital question
 

On 11/17/09 9:56 AM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?



~~ Snerk ~~
I thought The Freak was organizing a boycot against all Harry posts.
What a joke!



I admit it. I find good-looking women incredibly attractive!


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

Boat electricital question
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:06:59 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/17/09 9:56 AM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?



~~ Snerk ~~
I thought The Freak was organizing a boycot against all Harry posts.
What a joke!



I admit it. I find good-looking women incredibly attractive!

It's not that you find good-looking women good-looking?

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Boat electricital question
 

"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it
best to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or
just ground it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I
just wondered if there's any difference.

Steve


On an aluminum boat run separate line for ground. Run a hot and ground to
a distribution panel. Then tap off the panel, I use a fuse panel, for the
loads. Running the ground as the boat hull, causes electrolysis and
holes.

Sum perch! A straight answer. Thank you, Bill!

Steve

Boat electricital question
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?

You're right of course. My news server was down for about 4 hours last
night, so I logged in on google again.. Should have known better.

Boat electricital question
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:17:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:44 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

He knows everything there is to know, and is
quite vexed by those of us who don't.

...a position taken by most of the people left posting in this group.
The problem is, everything they "know" is just their opinion and they
have no "knowledge" concerning anything but winger politics.

Sad.


Your proclamation is no more accurate than a winger's.

I only post about what I know. There's plenty I don't wade into.

Boat electricital question
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?



~~ Snerk ~~
I thought The Freak was organizing a boycot against all Harry posts.
What a joke!



I thought you were here to keep posts on-topic, Don? Learn to spell
boycott first and then resume your mission.

Rob

Boat electricital question
 

Boat electricital question
 

SteveB wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:54:27 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:53:52 -0700,
wrote:

When running lines to, say the bilge, or to a navigation light, is it
best
to run two wires, one coming back to the ground on the panel, or just
ground
it there not far from the use? It's a basic question, but I just
wondered
if there's any difference.

Steve

An indication of how basically stupid you are. I hope the boat is
aluminum.

What difference would that make? unless you intend to electroplate the
prop with the hull......
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1181

You'll have to forgive jps. He knows everything there is to know, and is
quite vexed by those of us who don't. I take the easy way out, and have him
killfiled.

Steve



He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Rob

Boat electricital question
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, Rob wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?

Boat electricital question
 

On 11/18/09 8:02 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?



Still moving boats from up north to down south? Long drive to the ramp
these days, eh?

--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

Boat electricital question
 

H the K wrote:
On 11/18/09 8:02 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?



Still moving boats from up north to down south? Long drive to the ramp
these days, eh?

Why would you ask such a dumb question?

Boat electricital question
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:51:32 -0500, Rob wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:06:59 -0500, H the
wrote:

On 11/17/09 9:56 AM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:16 -0800 (PST), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

Here's JPS talking about what you said, but when Harry says the most
disgusting thing about women, he is silent.

Harry who ?



~~ Snerk ~~
I thought The Freak was organizing a boycot against all Harry posts.
What a joke!



I admit it. I find good-looking women incredibly attractive!

It's not that you find good-looking women good-looking?


He's a desperate man. His posting history proves that.

Replying to him only enables the asshole.

Rob

His peculiar tautology was amusing enough to require comment.

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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:05:04 -0600, wrote:

His peculiar tautology was amusing enough to require comment.

What the hell does a bi-pedal furry critter from the Hoth system have
to do with anything?

Boat electricital question
 

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:28:29 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:05:04 -0600, wrote:

His peculiar tautology was amusing enough to require comment.

What the hell does a bi-pedal furry critter from the Hoth system have
to do with anything?

Dunno. I suppose that I just find it "incredibly attractive"?

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?

Only the finest.

Rob

Boat electricital question
 

In article ,
says...

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?

Only the finest.

Rob

Well, the store didn't sell American Screwdrivers made by well paid and
serviced employees so he had to find a German set, but that wasn't
really a German set, turned out it was made in well fitted Japanese
factories by well compensated workers...

Boat electricital question
 

On 11/19/09 8:03 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlehsydncp37Zd6D5nWnZ2dnUVZ_h1i4p2d@giganews. com,
says...

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?

Only the finest.

Rob

Well, the store didn't sell American Screwdrivers made by well paid and
serviced employees so he had to find a German set, but that wasn't
really a German set, turned out it was made in well fitted Japanese
factories by well compensated workers...


Speaking of cheap tools, Ingersoll has made it through another night...


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

Boat electricital question
 

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:10:05 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/19/09 8:03 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlehsydncp37Zd6D5nWnZ2dnUVZ_h1i4p2d@giganews. com,
says...

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:53:22 -0500, wrote:

He has the screwdrivers to prove it.

Fine German screwdrivers by chance?

Only the finest.

Rob

Well, the store didn't sell American Screwdrivers made by well paid and
serviced employees so he had to find a German set, but that wasn't
really a German set, turned out it was made in well fitted Japanese
factories by well compensated workers...


Speaking of cheap tools, Ingersoll has made it through another night...

I've already proven him wrong. Their "bit" manufacturing is done in
Germany. The truth doesn't suit his argument so he'll just ignore it.

Why doesn't that surprise me?