Hillary in 2012?
 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On 11/12/09 6:35 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.


From Blankley? A rightie? Of course. "Talk..."

Nice try, moron.


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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.


It's just talk. She's said that she isn't interested. Of course, anything
can change in politics, but it's unlikely she'd run against an incumbent
pres.

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Hillary in 2012?
 

In article ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On 11/14/09 8:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.



Based upon what? Your educational background in polisci?

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On 11/15/09 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.

She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave
around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her
campaign back on track)
It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then.
If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on.



Hillary isn't going to mount a campaign against a sitting US President
who is a member of her party.

What might happen is this, though:

Joe Biden is 67 and will be 70 in 2012. He may not want another term as
VP, or his health might deteriorate.

Hillary Clinton is 62 and will be 65 in 2012. She might be interested in
the VP seat. As far as I know, she has no significant health issues.



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or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
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wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.

She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave
around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her
campaign back on track)
It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then.
If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on.



I don't know her future plans for staying as Sec. State. You're probably
right that she, like most in such a position, continually reevaluate. She's
said she isn't interested in running for Pres., at least not in 2016. She
would be too old by then. I'd say 2012 is out also, but if nothing else, for
logistical reasons.

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On 11/15/09 4:59 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:32:44 -0500, H the
wrote:

On 11/15/09 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.

She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave
around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her
campaign back on track)
It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then.
If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on.



Hillary isn't going to mount a campaign against a sitting US President
who is a member of her party.

What might happen is this, though:

Joe Biden is 67 and will be 70 in 2012. He may not want another term as
VP, or his health might deteriorate.

Hillary Clinton is 62 and will be 65 in 2012. She might be interested in
the VP seat. As far as I know, she has no significant health issues.

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


I don't think the GOP had anyone really good in 2008, and I haven't seen
anyone emerge who has the potential of being really good. Romney
continues to make a fool of himself. Palin continues to make a fool of
herself. Gingrich has integrity and old marital issues that will knock
him out of contention. Plus, the GOP is being pushed further and further
to the right by the evangelicals and other extremist lunatics.
Look what they are trying to do to Charlie Crist in Florida. Crist is a
popular guy who has done a reasonable job as governor of Florida, and a
fellow who could attract a lot of Dem and Indy voters. He would win the
Senate seat. So, what are the GOP nutcases doing? Trying to derail him.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:59:47 -0500, wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.

Guy? What about one of the Bush daughters? They seem like a fun
bunch, and probably as well qualified as Sarah P. :-)

Hillary in 2012?
 

On 11/15/09 7:51 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:06:49 -0500, H the
wrote:

Look what they are trying to do to Charlie Crist in Florida. Crist is a
popular guy who has done a reasonable job as governor of Florida, and a
fellow who could attract a lot of Dem and Indy voters. He would win the
Senate seat. So, what are the GOP nutcases doing? Trying to derail him.

The hot rumor in Tallahassee has always been that Crist is gay. I bet
that will pop up it's ugly head if he runs for president. I wouldn't
be surprised if it shows up in the Senate race. Maybe that is the
test.


Yeah, I've heard that rumor, too. It's too bad that we're so screwed up
in this country that most gays who seek public office have to hide that
part of their lives in the closet. Not that I know that Crist is or
isn't. I really don't give a **** if he is gay. He's among the most
rational and reasonable of Republican pols. If he is gay, he should
announce it rather than have it announced for him through outing or some
sort of incident like Senator Craig. It's the hypocrisy that I find
annoying, not the gayness.

Who is the Dem candidate likely to be? I don't follow Florida politics
much these days.




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wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:32:44 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/15/09 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.

She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave
around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her
campaign back on track)
It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then.
If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on.



Hillary isn't going to mount a campaign against a sitting US President
who is a member of her party.

What might happen is this, though:

Joe Biden is 67 and will be 70 in 2012. He may not want another term as
VP, or his health might deteriorate.

Hillary Clinton is 62 and will be 65 in 2012. She might be interested in
the VP seat. As far as I know, she has no significant health issues.

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

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Hillary in 2012?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:59:47 -0500, wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.

Guy? What about one of the Bush daughters? They seem like a fun
bunch, and probably as well qualified as Sarah P. :-)



I like that idea! Party at the White House, byob.

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wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:15:24 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:59:47 -0500, wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.

Guy? What about one of the Bush daughters? They seem like a fun
bunch, and probably as well qualified as Sarah P. :-)


The won't be old enough until Nov 25, 2016. Technically possible but
they would still be too young in the campaign.

Jeb has a fairly attractive son tho, and he is actually hispanic
(mom's side) so he is really positioned to do well in a rapidly
"browning" country.
He is in the Navy intelligence community right now and may be deployed
to Iraq or Afghanistan (no doubt to get his "I ain't a chicken hawk"
ticket punched).
The question is would we really elect another George (P) Bush.
Maybe he should call himself Jorge Garnica


Was he one of the "brown" ones that Bush, Sr. got in trouble for
identifying? I didn't see anything wrong with the comment, but lots of
people did.

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Hillary in 2012?
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:32:44 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/15/09 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html

President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office
and already talk about Hillary is starting up.

Heh - how about that.

Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama
administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama
successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in
the
Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a
failure as President?

What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec
of
State? If not, will she be fired or resign?

My money is on her getting fired within 6 months.

She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave
around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her
campaign back on track)
It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then.
If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on.



Hillary isn't going to mount a campaign against a sitting US President
who is a member of her party.

What might happen is this, though:

Joe Biden is 67 and will be 70 in 2012. He may not want another term as
VP, or his health might deteriorate.

Hillary Clinton is 62 and will be 65 in 2012. She might be interested in
the VP seat. As far as I know, she has no significant health issues.

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

--
Nom=de=Plume

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.

Hillary in 2012?
 

Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to
Palin while you watch - Oprah?

Rob

Hillary in 2012?
 

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On 11/16/09 9:30 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.




Amazing that these d.f. repubs actually think palin is an attractive
female for her age. She's short-waisted, has porous skin, and without
her makeup looks 15 years older than she is. And having had five
rugrats, she's surely loose as a goose where it matters.



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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:30:12 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Rob" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.

Funny that he'd suggest you were jerking it to Palin. Yikes. God
forbid "Rob" would have to be attracted to a woman based on her brain.
That woman is among the least attractive I could imagine, Pelosi is a
babe in comparison, even if she is 30 years older.

"Rob" probably recorded Oprah so he can go home and yank while he
watches Palin lie. It's so powerful when a snarky woman lies
straightfaced.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Nov 16, 9:32*pm, H the K wrote:
On 11/16/09 9:30 PM, Don White wrote:





*wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP...or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.

Is it that cold out already up there? *You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob

I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.

Amazing that these d.f. repubs actually think palin is an attractive
female for her age. She's short-waisted, has porous skin, and without
her makeup looks 15 years older than she is. And having had five
rugrats, she's surely loose as a goose where it matters.



Yup, there's the Harry we all know and hate.. "where it matters"??
Yup, that's quite representative of how uber-liberal Harry thinks of
women. Plume should pay attention, this is what we have been warning
her about. Now we get to see if she really has a brain, or is just
another intolerant ideologue...

Hillary in 2012?
 

On 11/16/09 10:00 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:30:12 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.

Funny that he'd suggest you were jerking it to Palin. Yikes. God
forbid "Rob" would have to be attracted to a woman based on her brain.
That woman is among the least attractive I could imagine, Pelosi is a
babe in comparison, even if she is 30 years older.

"Rob" probably recorded Oprah so he can go home and yank while he
watches Palin lie. It's so powerful when a snarky woman lies
straightfaced.


The righties like dumb women, like the ones they've married. They've
said so.


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If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
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the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.

--
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Hillary in 2012?
 

Hillary in 2012?
 

"achmed" wrote in message ...
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:34:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Was he one of the "brown" ones that Bush, Sr. got in trouble for
identifying? I didn't see anything wrong with the comment, but lots of
people did.


I don't know about that but this kid looks like a latin soap star, at
least in the stills I have seen. .

Does dhe ever suut up?


Did you ever grow up?

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Hillary in 2012?
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed
up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.



A big drop...

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/542179.html


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On 11/17/09 1:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ...
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:34:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Was he one of the "brown" ones that Bush, Sr. got in trouble for
identifying? I didn't see anything wrong with the comment, but lots of
people did.


I don't know about that but this kid looks like a latin soap star, at
least in the stills I have seen. .

Does dhe ever suut up?


Did you ever grow up?



Not since he started changing his handle here frequently. They all are
pretty much the same: right-wingers, afraid of women, afraid of people
of color, resentful, ****ed-off, and really aggravated because no one is
giving them the attention they think they deserve. Even their wives
ignore them, now that they've discovered the advantages of bumpy cucumbers.


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

Hillary in 2012?
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed
up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.



Here's another... look at the second chart.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuck..._b_198658.html

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Nom=de=Plume

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:51:12 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/17/09 1:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ...
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:34:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Was he one of the "brown" ones that Bush, Sr. got in trouble for
identifying? I didn't see anything wrong with the comment, but lots of
people did.


I don't know about that but this kid looks like a latin soap star, at
least in the stills I have seen. .

Does dhe ever suut up?


Did you ever grow up?



Not since he started changing his handle here frequently. They all are
pretty much the same: right-wingers, afraid of women, afraid of people
of color, resentful, ****ed-off, and really aggravated because no one is
giving them the attention they think they deserve. Even their wives
ignore them, now that they've discovered the advantages of bumpy cucumbers.

lol, lol.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.

They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.

Hillary in 2012?
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:26:06 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good.
McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an
experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according
to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped
considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty
fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.

They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.


My bet, Fox TV show.



She'll have to compete with Dobbs for the job...


--
Nom=de=Plume

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:42:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:26:06 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good.
McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an
experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according
to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped
considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty
fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.

They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.


My bet, Fox TV show.


She'll have to compete with Dobbs for the job...

Was it Jon Stewart who was skewering Fox for Geraldo being the voice
of reason? Are pigs flying now?

Maybe he's protecting his turf from John Stossel, although neither is
a voice of reason in the real world. Just at Fox News.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:42:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:26:06 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good.
McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an
experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according
to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped
considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty
fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.

They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.


My bet, Fox TV show.



She'll have to compete with Dobbs for the job...

Just had another thought. I'd be in favor of her going to Headline
News if she could bump Nancy Grace.

I can't stand hearing that woman's voice for an eight of a second
before I'm ready to move on.

Hillary in 2012?
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.



I don't have to get approval from other people, Don. Life actually
doesn't work that way. Trust me.

Rob

Hillary in 2012?
 

jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:30:12 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.

Funny that he'd suggest you were jerking it to Palin. Yikes. God
forbid "Rob" would have to be attracted to a woman based on her brain.
That woman is among the least attractive I could imagine, Pelosi is a
babe in comparison, even if she is 30 years older.

"Rob" probably recorded Oprah so he can go home and yank while he
watches Palin lie. It's so powerful when a snarky woman lies
straightfaced.

Your boy Don admitted he "wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean cruise". I never said anything about her in that vain.

That said, Pelosi is as ugly as they come - even with all of the plastic
surgery. I do think I saw her blink...once.

Nice try!

Rob

Hillary in 2012?
 

In article ,
says...

jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:30:12 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.

Funny that he'd suggest you were jerking it to Palin. Yikes. God
forbid "Rob" would have to be attracted to a woman based on her brain.
That woman is among the least attractive I could imagine, Pelosi is a
babe in comparison, even if she is 30 years older.

"Rob" probably recorded Oprah so he can go home and yank while he
watches Palin lie. It's so powerful when a snarky woman lies
straightfaced.

Your boy Don admitted he "wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean cruise". I never said anything about her in that vain.

That said, Pelosi is as ugly as they come - even with all of the plastic
surgery. I do think I saw her blink...once.

Nice try!

Rob

Plastic Surgery? I thought those eyes were the whole "deer in
headlights" thing as she realizes she is gonna' go down fast and hard
when it's all over...

Hillary in 2012?
 

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be
VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to
Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.



I don't have to get approval from other people, Don. Life actually
doesn't work that way. Trust me.

Rob

In your case it would be better if it did.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:44:57 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:42:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:26:06 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
news:gdi4g5ldm3ijp51tbnvfl2lrrnfj53leu7@4ax. com...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good.
McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an
experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according
to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped
considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty
fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.

They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.


My bet, Fox TV show.



She'll have to compete with Dobbs for the job...


Actually, when you look at Fox's ratings, she might get a job on
MSNBC.
Love them or hate them, Fox is killing in the ratings and the others
would really like a taste of that.
If Sarah is really the queen of the right, they could give her
Olbermann's slot and try to siphon off some of O'Reilly's audience.

What to do with Olbermann? Could he be the new Colmes? He doesn't
have the milquetoast delivery that they'd demand.

Hillary in 2012?
 

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:56:14 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be
VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to
Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.



I don't have to get approval from other people, Don. Life actually
doesn't work that way. Trust me.

Rob

In your case it would be better if it did.

Is there any question whether this asshole is DK? Why the hell does
he stay so close to your anus, Don?

Hillary in 2012?
 

On 11/17/09 10:55 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:56:14 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be
VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to
Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.



I don't have to get approval from other people, Don. Life actually
doesn't work that way. Trust me.

Rob

In your case it would be better if it did.

Is there any question whether this asshole is DK? Why the hell does
he stay so close to your anus, Don?


An asshole in any way "related" to DK would still stink like schnitt.


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

Hillary in 2012?
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

While flippin' channels an hour ago, I caught the tail end of Oprah
interviewing her.
I have nothing against her...but she seems kind of ordinary to be
VP..or
worse president of the US.
On the other hand I wouldn't mind having her along on a week long
Caribbean
cruise...as long as she didn't talk too much.
Her voice and delivery is a bit irritating to my ears.



Is it that cold out already up there? You are inside, jerking it to
Palin
while you watch - Oprah?

Rob


I think Johnny (the preacher) Herring had better have a word with you.



I don't have to get approval from other people, Don. Life actually
doesn't work that way. Trust me.

Rob

In your case it would be better if it did.



Dumb response #2. Will I find more today?

Rob