Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other
countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were
failing to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for
Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other countries
to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were failing
to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.


It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some point,
but it's still shocking.

--
Nom=de=Plume

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other countries
to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were failing
to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.


It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some point,
but it's still shocking.


Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God." He
actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:38 -0800, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other countries
to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were failing
to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.


It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some point,
but it's still shocking.


Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God." He
actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

According to many "Christian" groups, gays promote anal sex.

I'm sure my kids can't wait to have anal sex because that's what some
gay people do. God forbid they ever find out that straight people
sometimes favor anal sex.

Gated Communities is kind, more like prison.

jps wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:38 -0800, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other countries
to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were failing
to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some point,
but it's still shocking.

Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God." He
actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

According to many "Christian" groups, gays promote anal sex.

Pretty ****y experience I bet.

I'm sure my kids can't wait to have anal sex because that's what some
gay people do. God forbid they ever find out that straight people
sometimes favor anal sex.

Phil McCracken and Ben Dover at 6pm, Dick 'n Jane on at 11pm. Go figure.

Gated Communities is kind, more like prison.

Or keep the riff raff out.

Canuck57 wrote:
jps wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:38 -0800, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that
would possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in
other countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF


The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of
one-half of all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly
private clinics. Abortion clinics opened in the first place because
hospitals were failing to provide adequate services on a fair and
equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what
the House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at
some point, but it's still shocking.

Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God."
He actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

According to many "Christian" groups, gays promote anal sex.

Pretty ****y experience I bet.

I'm sure my kids can't wait to have anal sex because that's what some
gay people do. God forbid they ever find out that straight people
sometimes favor anal sex.

Phil McCracken and Ben Dover at 6pm, Dick 'n Jane on at 11pm. Go figure.

Gated Communities is kind, more like prison.

Or keep the riff raff out.

What Schaeffer was referring to was gated communities of the mind, where
you surround yourself with like minded people and refuse to let in any
new ideas.

He has some truly great observations about a movement that he has been
given credit for starting.

He now refers to the people who have his videos and older books as
"Permanently scared and intentionally ignorant."

"Jim" wrote in message
m...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other
countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were
failing to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for
Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.


It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some
point, but it's still shocking.


Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God." He
actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.


It's this "born again" thing... blech. It literally means born again. No
responsibility for the past. Blind to the consequences going forward.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:54:03 -0800, Jim wrote:

Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other
countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were
failing to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for
Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

Maybe there's some concern about this language: "All abortions are
medically necessary, since it is impractical and discriminatory to
separate out abortions done for "social" reasons from those done for
"health" reasons."

Some folks just don't believe that killing babies should have no
thought behind it whatsoever. I sure don't think I should have to pay
for them.
--

John H

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:54:03 -0800, Jim wrote:

Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other
countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were
failing to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for
Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

Maybe there's some concern about this language: "All abortions are
medically necessary, since it is impractical and discriminatory to
separate out abortions done for "social" reasons from those done for
"health" reasons."

Some folks just don't believe that killing babies should have no
thought behind it whatsoever. I sure don't think I should have to pay
for them.

I am sure lots of thought goes into it. But since I don't have to live
with the consequences caporial or spiratual, I am quite content with
letting the decision be between the woman and the doctor.

Too bad you could take these no-rights people, brutally rape them to get
them pregnent, makes up the arse, then dictate to them like sheep that
they will have the child.

Then when the child gets old enough to ask how they were conceived, they
can be told "?? raped me an so you were born...".

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:51:16 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:54:03 -0800, Jim wrote:

Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other
countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were
failing to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for
Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

Maybe there's some concern about this language: "All abortions are
medically necessary, since it is impractical and discriminatory to
separate out abortions done for "social" reasons from those done for
"health" reasons."

Some folks just don't believe that killing babies should have no
thought behind it whatsoever. I sure don't think I should have to pay
for them.

I am sure lots of thought goes into it. But since I don't have to live
with the consequences caporial or spiratual, I am quite content with
letting the decision be between the woman and the doctor.

Too bad you could take these no-rights people, brutally rape them to get
them pregnent, makes up the arse, then dictate to them like sheep that
they will have the child.

There are methods to get rid of possible pregnancies from rape without
waiting until the baby is viable. Or, do women just wait for a while
before deciding they were raped? Something there makes no sense.


Then when the child gets old enough to ask how they were conceived, they
can be told "?? raped me an so you were born...".

--

John H