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nom=de=plume November 11th 09 04:39 AM

Guns save lives...
 
"Katie Ohara" wrote in message
...
On Nov 10, 7:52 pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:45:12 -0800, jps wrote:

Was a good thing the DHS knew that our latest nut was trying to
contact al Qaeda last year. That way they knew enough to keep him
from purchasing a cop killer handgun from GUNS GALORE in Kileen, TX.


Whoops, guess we can't prevent a lunatic from buying a cop killer from
GUNS GALORE in Kileen, TX, even if we know he's going off the deep
end.


In other fun gun news...


SPRINGFIELD, Mass. — The family of an 8-year-old boy who fatally shot
himself at a gun show in western Massachusetts say the Uzi submachine
gun jammed twice before he lost control of the weapon and fired into
his head.


The family of Christopher Bizilj (bah-SEEL') of Ashford, Conn., says
in a civil lawsuit filed Friday that a 15-year-old instructor who
cleared the gun and handed it back to the victim failed to provide
proper guidance.


The lawsuit names the owners of a gun club where the fair was held,
promoters of the event and those who supplied the weapon and
ammunition. None of those named in the lawsuit could be reached for
comment after business hours Monday.


Bizilj shot himself at the Westfield Sportsman's Club in October 2008.


The boy's family claims the gun was defective and unreasonably
dangerous, and they blame the failure to properly service it.


It doesn't always work that way. I nearly always carry. I value your
life. I will protect you, should you be attacked..... Give your
values, who else could offer that assistance?
--
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enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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So, I if Obama'a appointee Napolitano knew about this guy, why did she
not stop him. Was she too busy thinking returning vets are
terrorists. This is clearly a case of dangerous incompetence on the
part of the Obama admin. Everybody was trying to cover their asses
pandering to Obama's ideas that there is no such thing as terrorism.
Ignoring reality does not make it go away in spite of the liberal Kool
aid.



This was investigated last year, apparently. Thus it would have been Bush's
appointee who did nothing. The whole thing is under investigation, so it's
foolish to jump to conclusions. The Army is claiming it never received the
information and one person made the decision not to forward the intel to
them.

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nom=de=plume November 11th 09 04:41 AM

Guns save lives...
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Nov 10, 8:40 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?


Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?

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Anybody with more than two neurons will wonder what other threats the
Obama admin has missed simply because seeing them would not be pc.
Due to the extraordinary incompetence of this admin and its belief in
fairy tales, Americans have died. PC silliness on university campuses
is one thing but when Americans die because of it then it is time to
get some adults to run the nation.


Reply: Get serious. There are thousands of threats every month. You're going
to blame this on the Obama administration I suppose?

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I am Tosk November 11th 09 05:13 AM

Guns save lives...
 
In article ,
says...

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/10/09 7:52 PM, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:45:12 -0800, wrote:


Was a good thing the DHS knew that our latest nut was trying to
contact al Qaeda last year. That way they knew enough to keep him
from purchasing a cop killer handgun from GUNS GALORE in Kileen, TX.

Whoops, guess we can't prevent a lunatic from buying a cop killer from
GUNS GALORE in Kileen, TX, even if we know he's going off the deep
end.

In other fun gun news...

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. ? The family of an 8-year-old boy who fatally shot
himself at a gun show in western Massachusetts say the Uzi submachine
gun jammed twice before he lost control of the weapon and fired into
his head.

The family of Christopher Bizilj (bah-SEEL') of Ashford, Conn., says
in a civil lawsuit filed Friday that a 15-year-old instructor who
cleared the gun and handed it back to the victim failed to provide
proper guidance.

The lawsuit names the owners of a gun club where the fair was held,
promoters of the event and those who supplied the weapon and
ammunition. None of those named in the lawsuit could be reached for
comment after business hours Monday.

Bizilj shot himself at the Westfield Sportsman's Club in October 2008.

The boy's family claims the gun was defective and unreasonably
dangerous, and they blame the failure to properly service it.

It doesn't always work that way. I nearly always carry. I value your
life. I will protect you, should you be attacked..... Give your
values, who else could offer that assistance?



I carry in South Carolina and Virginia...you betcha!



I thought you were anti handgun. Didn't you make a bunch of posts stating
that a while back?.


Harry makes it up as it goes along... This time he is trying to make a
statement about SC and Virginia, has nothing to do with reality, just
the way he rolls...

jps November 11th 09 05:37 AM

Guns save lives...
 
It's not for nothing that General George Casey warned against an anti-Muslim backlash in the wake of the Fort Hood massacre. But a whole slew of childlike nimrods, spurred to action by Casey vowing that it would be "a shame if our diversity became a casualty," have taken the stage to decry such concerns as "political correctness." Michelle Malkin complained that this was worshiping "the false god of diversity." Pat Robertson demanded that Muslims be treated as "members of some fascist group." So much good sense, being made! And so, naturally, the backlash Casey warned of has now expanded to include Greek Orthodox priests.

Via Think Progress:

Alexios Marakis, a Greek Orthodox priest visiting the U.S., got lost in Tampa and tried to stop and ask directions from Marine reservist Jasen D. Bruce. But instead of offering help, "Bruce struck the priest on the head with a tire iron." The reservist believed Marakis, who spoke limited English, was an Arab terrorist. Bruce chased the priest for three blocks, "and even called 911 to say that an Arabic man tried to rob him."
And that's the wages of hysteria, right there.

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:39:43 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Katie Ohara" wrote in message
...
On Nov 10, 7:52 pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:45:12 -0800, jps wrote:

Was a good thing the DHS knew that our latest nut was trying to
contact al Qaeda last year. That way they knew enough to keep him
from purchasing a cop killer handgun from GUNS GALORE in Kileen, TX.


Whoops, guess we can't prevent a lunatic from buying a cop killer from
GUNS GALORE in Kileen, TX, even if we know he's going off the deep
end.


In other fun gun news...


SPRINGFIELD, Mass. — The family of an 8-year-old boy who fatally shot
himself at a gun show in western Massachusetts say the Uzi submachine
gun jammed twice before he lost control of the weapon and fired into
his head.


The family of Christopher Bizilj (bah-SEEL') of Ashford, Conn., says
in a civil lawsuit filed Friday that a 15-year-old instructor who
cleared the gun and handed it back to the victim failed to provide
proper guidance.


The lawsuit names the owners of a gun club where the fair was held,
promoters of the event and those who supplied the weapon and
ammunition. None of those named in the lawsuit could be reached for
comment after business hours Monday.


Bizilj shot himself at the Westfield Sportsman's Club in October 2008.


The boy's family claims the gun was defective and unreasonably
dangerous, and they blame the failure to properly service it.


It doesn't always work that way. I nearly always carry. I value your
life. I will protect you, should you be attacked..... Give your
values, who else could offer that assistance?
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171


So, I if Obama'a appointee Napolitano knew about this guy, why did she
not stop him. Was she too busy thinking returning vets are
terrorists. This is clearly a case of dangerous incompetence on the
part of the Obama admin. Everybody was trying to cover their asses
pandering to Obama's ideas that there is no such thing as terrorism.
Ignoring reality does not make it go away in spite of the liberal Kool
aid.



This was investigated last year, apparently. Thus it would have been Bush's
appointee who did nothing. The whole thing is under investigation, so it's
foolish to jump to conclusions. The Army is claiming it never received the
information and one person made the decision not to forward the intel to
them.



NDM, careful with the Katie Ohara.

She oftentimes acts like an old loonytune wingnut.

jps November 11th 09 05:38 AM

Guns save lives...
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:45 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:01:01 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:12:14 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:00:23 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 10, 8:40*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?

Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?

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Anybody with more than two neurons will wonder what other threats the
Obama admin has missed simply because seeing them would not be pc.
Due to the extraordinary incompetence of this admin and its belief in
fairy tales, Americans have died. PC silliness on university campuses
is one thing but when Americans die because of it then it is time to
get some adults to run the nation.

I don't think acolytes of the Great PC are known for having a firm
grasp on reality.


Jesus, you dweebs are useless.


There you go. A retort well suited for a reasoned exchange.


WTF am I supposed to do, ask the same question 20 times? You don't
respond. It's like hitting the ball across the net and you just look
at it. Then you hit a different ball into the next court.

Wasting my time.

jps November 11th 09 05:39 AM

Guns save lives...
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:41:34 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Nov 10, 8:40 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?


Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?

--
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Anybody with more than two neurons will wonder what other threats the
Obama admin has missed simply because seeing them would not be pc.
Due to the extraordinary incompetence of this admin and its belief in
fairy tales, Americans have died. PC silliness on university campuses
is one thing but when Americans die because of it then it is time to
get some adults to run the nation.


Reply: Get serious. There are thousands of threats every month. You're going
to blame this on the Obama administration I suppose?


Give him a minute or two. He's working the triangulation.

jps November 11th 09 05:42 AM

Guns save lives...
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:25:54 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:05:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:19:21 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:25 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?

Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?


Yup, be need to register those ass jawbones.


Hey, in the hands of the right person, those things are lethal! (Don't
some states have jawbone safety training for juveniles?)


Useless drivel. How would you like it if your 8 year old was killed
in an UZI accident?

WTF is an 8 YO doing handling an UZI at a gun show?

WTF is an UZI doing at a gun show?

Put an angry Muslim at the show who wants a little payback for his
brothers killed in Iraq?

Is it still a 15 year old handing it out with live ammo?


The sardonic is hard to digest? I have accepted the fact that my
children can perish at any time for any number of reasons, and there
is little in this world that doesn't involve some measure of risk. I
resent you and the government hoping to stifle me for my own safety.


Oh golly, sounds like you should be able to own a ****ing bazooka.

Rabbit season is quickly approaching and we wouldn't want you to be
stiffled. You can take out the whole family with one round instead of
wasting so damned many .22 bullets.

You have nothing of value to offer so I'll stop asking. Please don't
waste your time responding to my questions.

jps November 11th 09 05:46 AM

Guns save lives...
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:13:50 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:59:58 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:40:53 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?

Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?


A specious argument. Genocide has been happening for centuries, so
what's the problem with having one now?

There's a real problem that requires some sort of solution, unless
you're pleased with the daily news of so many dead by gun. Arming
everyone doesn't seem like a good solution but it's certainly heading
that way.

Do you have any practical solutions? Consider leaving dead poets out
of the conversation for now.


Specious? Why should there be a solution if "idiots killing people"
is symptomatic of evolution? Why resist evolution's eugenic design?

The "dead poets" are the ones that flesh out your ineluctably
ubiquitous informal fallacies.


I don't think you understand them as well as you think you do.

I hope someone close to you doesn't perish or become permanently
disabled by a fruitcake who got his gun at a gunshow.

Maybe someday you'll grow a ball and free yourself of the obtuse
references. Otherwise, you shoud just go full blast into
existentialism and not bother feeling a ****ing thing.

[email protected] November 11th 09 02:01 PM

Guns save lives...
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:46:32 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:13:50 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:59:58 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:40:53 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?

Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?

A specious argument. Genocide has been happening for centuries, so
what's the problem with having one now?

There's a real problem that requires some sort of solution, unless
you're pleased with the daily news of so many dead by gun. Arming
everyone doesn't seem like a good solution but it's certainly heading
that way.

Do you have any practical solutions? Consider leaving dead poets out
of the conversation for now.


Specious? Why should there be a solution if "idiots killing people"
is symptomatic of evolution? Why resist evolution's eugenic design?

The "dead poets" are the ones that flesh out your ineluctably
ubiquitous informal fallacies.


I don't think you understand them as well as you think you do.

I hope someone close to you doesn't perish or become permanently
disabled by a fruitcake who got his gun at a gunshow.

Maybe someday you'll grow a ball and free yourself of the obtuse
references. Otherwise, you shoud just go full blast into
existentialism and not bother feeling a ****ing thing.


And you don't seem to understand existentialism. Nor do you seem to
understand the dialetic.

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[email protected] November 11th 09 04:50 PM

Guns save lives...
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:42:43 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:25:54 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:05:18 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:19:21 -0600,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:25 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:29:41 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped contextually

Trouble is, how the hell do
you keep idiots from killing people?

Idiots killing people has been a part of the human equation since time
immemorial, hasn't it?


Yup, be need to register those ass jawbones.


Hey, in the hands of the right person, those things are lethal! (Don't
some states have jawbone safety training for juveniles?)

Useless drivel. How would you like it if your 8 year old was killed
in an UZI accident?

WTF is an 8 YO doing handling an UZI at a gun show?

WTF is an UZI doing at a gun show?

Put an angry Muslim at the show who wants a little payback for his
brothers killed in Iraq?

Is it still a 15 year old handing it out with live ammo?


The sardonic is hard to digest? I have accepted the fact that my
children can perish at any time for any number of reasons, and there
is little in this world that doesn't involve some measure of risk. I
resent you and the government hoping to stifle me for my own safety.


Oh golly, sounds like you should be able to own a ****ing bazooka.

Rabbit season is quickly approaching and we wouldn't want you to be
stiffled. You can take out the whole family with one round instead of
wasting so damned many .22 bullets.

You have nothing of value to offer so I'll stop asking. Please don't
waste your time responding to my questions.


I'm tempted to say that pettiness doesn't become you; but, as of this
moment, it may be your only redeeming quality. Who needs a bazooka?

"During the following hours and days, mobs armed with machetes and
clubs roamed the streets, hacking and beating those who held opposing
political views, and pillaging the areas they destroyed. Smoke from
fires set by rioters mixed with retaliatory tear gas. Throngs of
police wielding white batons and gray metal shields attempted to quell
the unrest, firing live rounds, and beating rioters, onlookers or
anyone loitering outside their homes.

The mobs left charred black frames teetering where villages once
stood. A church was leveled in a fire, started after more than 50
people fled to it for safety, then were locked inside and burned
alive."

http://www.realtruth.org/articles/08...01-africa.html

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