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I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the
property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html -- Nom=de=Plume |
actual boat question - really!
On 11/6/09 5:19 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html As long as you and passengers wear life jackets at all times, and are prepared for the boat to capsize, and you learn how to rightside it and climb back aboard... Those aren't necessarily negatives, btw, but just part of learning to sail on that sort of boat. These are the sorts of boats that really make you learn how to sail and how to understand the wind, current, and the physics of sailing. I learned on an Alcort sunfish, a bit smaller, slightly different configuraton, and I spent most of the first weeks sailing it tipping it over. I can't comment on the price. If you are interested, drag along someone who knows small sailboats and can help you examine the boat for leaks and for problems with the mast or rigging. Don White here can offer some advice. Cute boat. |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Seems like it'd be pretty squishy between two adults and two kids, unless the pfds are small and you didn't take much (or anything) with. Maybe a six pack and two pops. |
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"H the K" wrote in message
m... On 11/6/09 5:19 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html As long as you and passengers wear life jackets at all times, and are prepared for the boat to capsize, and you learn how to rightside it and climb back aboard... Those aren't necessarily negatives, btw, but just part of learning to sail on that sort of boat. These are the sorts of boats that really make you learn how to sail and how to understand the wind, current, and the physics of sailing. I learned on an Alcort sunfish, a bit smaller, slightly different configuraton, and I spent most of the first weeks sailing it tipping it over. I can't comment on the price. If you are interested, drag along someone who knows small sailboats and can help you examine the boat for leaks and for problems with the mast or rigging. Don White here can offer some advice. Cute boat. I know how to sail boats that size... not afraid of that certainly. The lake water is typically very cold... snow runoff, so lifejackets and some warm liquid is standard. The wind is typically very light, and I wouldn't leave the dock if there was much of a chance of high winds. It's usually pretty predictable. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with this kind of boat. It _does_ look cute, which is a prime consideration of course! I borrowed a neighbor friend's dinghy last summer... I think I mentioned that in a recent storm it flooded and was sitting in the muck. Anyway, I had to practically tie the kids into it to keep them in the boat. Finally I gave up and they went swimming. Brrr... too cold for me probably even in a wetsuit, but they went in without any of that. Of course they were blue in a 1/2 hour. Sis did _not_ appreciate it, but I'm still the favorite aunt. :) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Nov 6, 5:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"H the K" wrote in messagenews:APudnYYfToajPmnXnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@earth link.com... On 11/6/09 5:19 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html As long as you and passengers wear life jackets at all times, and are prepared for the boat to capsize, and you learn how to rightside it and climb back aboard... Those aren't necessarily negatives, btw, but just part of learning to sail on that sort of boat. These are the sorts of boats that really make you learn how to sail and how to understand the wind, current, and the physics of sailing. I learned on an Alcort sunfish, a bit smaller, slightly different configuraton, and I spent most of the first weeks sailing it tipping it over. I can't comment on the price. If you are interested, drag along someone who knows small sailboats and can help you examine the boat for leaks and for problems with the mast or rigging. Don White here can offer some advice. Cute boat. I know how to sail boats that size... not afraid of that certainly. The lake water is typically very cold... snow runoff, so lifejackets and some warm liquid is standard. The wind is typically very light, and I wouldn't leave the dock if there was much of a chance of high winds. It's usually pretty predictable. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with this kind of boat. It _does_ look cute, which is a prime consideration of course! I borrowed a neighbor friend's dinghy last summer... I think I mentioned that in a recent storm it flooded and was sitting in the muck. Anyway, I had to practically tie the kids into it to keep them in the boat. Finally I gave up and they went swimming. Brrr... too cold for me probably even in a wetsuit, but they went in without any of that. Of course they were blue in a 1/2 hour. Sis did _not_ appreciate it, but I'm still the favorite aunt. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Looks like a fun boat and reasonably simple. It is sorta like a Laser but with more space. Price seems reasonable for an older Laser BUT, check the hull and deck because some of these boats have glass over ply and the ply may rot. I almost bought a Laser once that had a rotten deck under the glass. Too big a problem to reasonably fix. OTOH, it is only $700, a small price for a lot of fun. Something you MIGHT consider is a Flying Scot cause it has lots of room for 4 and can be easily trailerd and set up. Dunno about price on them but I have seen em being given away when they are very old. |
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On 11/6/09 5:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message m... On 11/6/09 5:19 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html As long as you and passengers wear life jackets at all times, and are prepared for the boat to capsize, and you learn how to rightside it and climb back aboard... Those aren't necessarily negatives, btw, but just part of learning to sail on that sort of boat. These are the sorts of boats that really make you learn how to sail and how to understand the wind, current, and the physics of sailing. I learned on an Alcort sunfish, a bit smaller, slightly different configuraton, and I spent most of the first weeks sailing it tipping it over. I can't comment on the price. If you are interested, drag along someone who knows small sailboats and can help you examine the boat for leaks and for problems with the mast or rigging. Don White here can offer some advice. Cute boat. I know how to sail boats that size... not afraid of that certainly. The lake water is typically very cold... snow runoff, so lifejackets and some warm liquid is standard. The wind is typically very light, and I wouldn't leave the dock if there was much of a chance of high winds. It's usually pretty predictable. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with this kind of boat. It _does_ look cute, which is a prime consideration of course! I borrowed a neighbor friend's dinghy last summer... I think I mentioned that in a recent storm it flooded and was sitting in the muck. Anyway, I had to practically tie the kids into it to keep them in the boat. Finally I gave up and they went swimming. Brrr... too cold for me probably even in a wetsuit, but they went in without any of that. Of course they were blue in a 1/2 hour. Sis did _not_ appreciate it, but I'm still the favorite aunt. :) Cold water indeed. The first time my wife and I traveled to S.F. for a vacation, we took a bunch of side trips, including, of course, Muir Woods, and the woods, trails and beaches at near Point Reyes. It was July or August, pretty warm, and I put on my swimming trunks and went for a dip. Holy ice cubes! I imagine a lake in your area is as cold. We're planning a trip to S.F. between now and January, just for a week. I'm collecting restaurant names...good local restaurants, seafood, italian, california, et cetera...and yes, that's a request. |
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"H the K" wrote in message
m... On 11/6/09 5:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message m... On 11/6/09 5:19 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html As long as you and passengers wear life jackets at all times, and are prepared for the boat to capsize, and you learn how to rightside it and climb back aboard... Those aren't necessarily negatives, btw, but just part of learning to sail on that sort of boat. These are the sorts of boats that really make you learn how to sail and how to understand the wind, current, and the physics of sailing. I learned on an Alcort sunfish, a bit smaller, slightly different configuraton, and I spent most of the first weeks sailing it tipping it over. I can't comment on the price. If you are interested, drag along someone who knows small sailboats and can help you examine the boat for leaks and for problems with the mast or rigging. Don White here can offer some advice. Cute boat. I know how to sail boats that size... not afraid of that certainly. The lake water is typically very cold... snow runoff, so lifejackets and some warm liquid is standard. The wind is typically very light, and I wouldn't leave the dock if there was much of a chance of high winds. It's usually pretty predictable. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with this kind of boat. It _does_ look cute, which is a prime consideration of course! I borrowed a neighbor friend's dinghy last summer... I think I mentioned that in a recent storm it flooded and was sitting in the muck. Anyway, I had to practically tie the kids into it to keep them in the boat. Finally I gave up and they went swimming. Brrr... too cold for me probably even in a wetsuit, but they went in without any of that. Of course they were blue in a 1/2 hour. Sis did _not_ appreciate it, but I'm still the favorite aunt. :) Cold water indeed. The first time my wife and I traveled to S.F. for a vacation, we took a bunch of side trips, including, of course, Muir Woods, and the woods, trails and beaches at near Point Reyes. It was July or August, pretty warm, and I put on my swimming trunks and went for a dip. Holy ice cubes! I imagine a lake in your area is as cold. It's an amazing contrast between what can be hot weather and cold water. I think it hurts to jump in but kids are indestructible. We're planning a trip to S.F. between now and January, just for a week. I'm collecting restaurant names...good local restaurants, seafood, italian, california, et cetera...and yes, that's a request. I'm certainly no expert wrt to restaurants in SF. I usually rely on friends to pick when I get down that way. I can see what they recommend if you like. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"jps" wrote in message
... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Seems like it'd be pretty squishy between two adults and two kids, unless the pfds are small and you didn't take much (or anything) with. Maybe a six pack and two pops. It would be 1 adult and two kids. No one else wants to go with them. :) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:26:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Seems like it'd be pretty squishy between two adults and two kids, unless the pfds are small and you didn't take much (or anything) with. Maybe a six pack and two pops. It would be 1 adult and two kids. No one else wants to go with them. :) Perfect! |
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On Nov 6, 7:10*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:26:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Seems like it'd be pretty squishy between two adults and two kids, unless the pfds are small and you didn't take much (or anything) with. Maybe a six pack and two pops. It would be 1 adult and two kids. No one else wants to go with them. :) Perfect! Here is the right way to think about this deal. How many times could 2 adults and 2 kids go to a water park for that amount of money. What would it be worth for the kids to learn to sail? With the boat they learn for free and go as often as you like. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Nov 6, 5:44 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "H the K" wrote in messagenews:APudnYYfToajPmnXnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@earth link.com... On 11/6/09 5:19 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html As long as you and passengers wear life jackets at all times, and are prepared for the boat to capsize, and you learn how to rightside it and climb back aboard... Those aren't necessarily negatives, btw, but just part of learning to sail on that sort of boat. These are the sorts of boats that really make you learn how to sail and how to understand the wind, current, and the physics of sailing. I learned on an Alcort sunfish, a bit smaller, slightly different configuraton, and I spent most of the first weeks sailing it tipping it over. I can't comment on the price. If you are interested, drag along someone who knows small sailboats and can help you examine the boat for leaks and for problems with the mast or rigging. Don White here can offer some advice. Cute boat. I know how to sail boats that size... not afraid of that certainly. The lake water is typically very cold... snow runoff, so lifejackets and some warm liquid is standard. The wind is typically very light, and I wouldn't leave the dock if there was much of a chance of high winds. It's usually pretty predictable. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with this kind of boat. It _does_ look cute, which is a prime consideration of course! I borrowed a neighbor friend's dinghy last summer... I think I mentioned that in a recent storm it flooded and was sitting in the muck. Anyway, I had to practically tie the kids into it to keep them in the boat. Finally I gave up and they went swimming. Brrr... too cold for me probably even in a wetsuit, but they went in without any of that. Of course they were blue in a 1/2 hour. Sis did _not_ appreciate it, but I'm still the favorite aunt. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Looks like a fun boat and reasonably simple. It is sorta like a Laser but with more space. Price seems reasonable for an older Laser BUT, check the hull and deck because some of these boats have glass over ply and the ply may rot. I almost bought a Laser once that had a rotten deck under the glass. Too big a problem to reasonably fix. OTOH, it is only $700, a small price for a lot of fun. Something you MIGHT consider is a Flying Scot cause it has lots of room for 4 and can be easily trailerd and set up. Dunno about price on them but I have seen em being given away when they are very old. Reply: Yes, I'm going to get my friend to take a look at the boat before I plunk down the money. I'll see if there are any reasonably priced Flying Scots. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Nov 6, 7:10 pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:26:23 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Seems like it'd be pretty squishy between two adults and two kids, unless the pfds are small and you didn't take much (or anything) with. Maybe a six pack and two pops. It would be 1 adult and two kids. No one else wants to go with them. :) Perfect! Here is the right way to think about this deal. How many times could 2 adults and 2 kids go to a water park for that amount of money. What would it be worth for the kids to learn to sail? With the boat they learn for free and go as often as you like. I agree... I think it's a self-esteem building experience, but I think for them it would just be fun at least at first. This boat seems to be pretty easy... one sail, not much hardware to break, pretty kid-proof, and as stated, cute. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html The Banshee is a class boat designed by a guy named Reid. Very nice little boats - relatively light weight as I remember around 100 lbs so so. Should be easy to handle, but I'd suggest a small trailer for it for launch and recovery or one of those wheeled carts built or small sail boats. I don't believe they are produced anymore. They handle similar to the Zuma model from LaserPerformance - easy to handle, easy to rig and a ton of fun to sail. I've had both a Sailfish and a Zuma - both are a ton of fun. If you are looking into a really fun boat to sail, try looking at the Sunfish also. They make a performance version of the Sunfish that is a blast to sail around a small lake. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Banshees are/were nice little boats. I believe they are/were rated about the same as the early Lasers. They might have even been rated a little faster. In the picture in the craigslist ad, she looks a little roomier than I remember. If the wind gets over about 10-12 knots you should leave the kids on the beach. But, over 12 it can be pretty fun alone. Chris |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html -- Nom=de=Plume A very popular open dinghy up here is the CL16...originally a copy of the Wayfarer. I had the smaller CL 14... but would go for the larger 16 if I bought another small sailboat. Lots of 2nd hand copies for sale in central Canada. http://vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl16.htm |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:40:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html -- Nom=de=Plume A very popular open dinghy up here is the CL16...originally a copy of the Wayfarer. I had the smaller CL 14... but would go for the larger 16 if I bought another small sailboat. Lots of 2nd hand copies for sale in central Canada. http://vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl16.htm They were built in Canada weren't they? |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:40:04 -0400, "Don White" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html -- Nom=de=Plume A very popular open dinghy up here is the CL16...originally a copy of the Wayfarer. I had the smaller CL 14... but would go for the larger 16 if I bought another small sailboat. Lots of 2nd hand copies for sale in central Canada. http://vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl16.htm They were built in Canada weren't they? Sure are. The company started out in the early 60's right here...in Mahone Bay, about a 40 minute drive south west of Halifax. Now the company is located in Fort Erie, Ontario |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html The Banshee is a class boat designed by a guy named Reid. Very nice little boats - relatively light weight as I remember around 100 lbs so so. Should be easy to handle, but I'd suggest a small trailer for it for launch and recovery or one of those wheeled carts built or small sail boats. I don't believe they are produced anymore. They handle similar to the Zuma model from LaserPerformance - easy to handle, easy to rig and a ton of fun to sail. I've had both a Sailfish and a Zuma - both are a ton of fun. If you are looking into a really fun boat to sail, try looking at the Sunfish also. They make a performance version of the Sunfish that is a blast to sail around a small lake. Thanks! I'm going to go take a look in the next couple of days... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Chris" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Banshees are/were nice little boats. I believe they are/were rated about the same as the early Lasers. They might have even been rated a little faster. In the picture in the craigslist ad, she looks a little roomier than I remember. If the wind gets over about 10-12 knots you should leave the kids on the beach. But, over 12 it can be pretty fun alone. Chris That would be pretty rare.. wind over 10 mph. If it did happen it would just be a mountain gust. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Don White" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html -- Nom=de=Plume A very popular open dinghy up here is the CL16...originally a copy of the Wayfarer. I had the smaller CL 14... but would go for the larger 16 if I bought another small sailboat. Lots of 2nd hand copies for sale in central Canada. http://vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl16.htm Next time I get to Canada.... :) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Don't even think about it unless you and the kids are accomplished swimmers and you are capable of pulling yourself out of the water onto a boat. Non swimmers depending on life jackets is an invitation to tragedy. If you are all good swimmers then read on. If you don't mind getting wet a few time whenever you go out with the kids then go for it, by all means. Small sailboats like this are tons of fun. I emphasize the wet part. Kids like nothing better that dumping the things. That's the best part of sailing for them. I took sailing lessons a few years ago at a local club. The club used Lasers and one larger boat. There were three (mature) adults and a bunch of kids ranging in ages from 10 to 17 ish in the class. The other two adults were a married couple that took the larger boat. I got to sail with the kids, lucky me. "Come on lets dump'er again" !!!! Splash. It got to the point that I could walk around the hull as the Laser was turning turtle and right it without getting wet. I'm a good swimmer and have always loved the water, but by the time the course was finished I had enough practice dumping sailboats. You may want to consider something that is self righting, but the chances are you would be looking at a boat that's a lot heavier than you would want. Think along the idea of a "Barrel of monkeys". If you like the thought then get out your checkbook. I live on waterfront property and own a larger self righting sailboat, I love sailing it. If I had grandchildren I would rather they sailed on something like the Lasers. Kids would enjoy them much more than my boat. LdB |
actual boat question - really!
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:40:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html -- Nom=de=Plume A very popular open dinghy up here is the CL16...originally a copy of the Wayfarer. I had the smaller CL 14... but would go for the larger 16 if I bought another small sailboat. Lots of 2nd hand copies for sale in central Canada. http://vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl16.htm Get a scow. No centerboard trunk to interfere with stowage of the coolers. An M-16 would do the job. With twin rudders you can get up on the high side and still reach the tiller. Casady |
actual boat question - really!
"LdB" wrote in message
m... nom=de=plume wrote: I was thinking about getting something to sail on the small lake near the property. It would need to be small enough that I deal with, yet big enough to take two adults or me and two kids... when the Spring comes or we get a stretch of decent weather... I saw this ad ... don't know anything about Banshee sailboats, but it seems pretty simple to operate. Comments/opinions? Is that a decent price? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/1448183101.html Don't even think about it unless you and the kids are accomplished swimmers and you are capable of pulling yourself out of the water onto a boat. Non swimmers depending on life jackets is an invitation to tragedy. If you are all good swimmers then read on. Certainly good advice. I'm a (former) surfer, so that's not an issue. I always have trouble getting these guys to get out of the water. Everyone in the extended family swim well. I think it's genetic. :) If you don't mind getting wet a few time whenever you go out with the kids then go for it, by all means. Small sailboats like this are tons of fun. I emphasize the wet part. Kids like nothing better that dumping the things. That's the best part of sailing for them. I took sailing lessons a few years ago at a local club. The club used Lasers and one larger boat. There were three (mature) adults and a bunch of kids ranging in ages from 10 to 17 ish in the class. The other two adults were a married couple that took the larger boat. I got to sail with the kids, lucky me. "Come on lets dump'er again" !!!! Splash. It got to the point that I could walk around the hull as the Laser was turning turtle and right it without getting wet. I'm a good swimmer and have always loved the water, but by the time the course was finished I had enough practice dumping sailboats. You may want to consider something that is self righting, but the chances are you would be looking at a boat that's a lot heavier than you would want. Think along the idea of a "Barrel of monkeys". If you like the thought then get out your checkbook. I live on waterfront property and own a larger self righting sailboat, I love sailing it. If I had grandchildren I would rather they sailed on something like the Lasers. Kids would enjoy them much more than my boat. LdB -- Nom=de=Plume |
actual boat question - really!
I used to have an 8 foot Sportyak dinghy that carried on the hardtop of
my 30 ft. Chris and it had a sail kit. I used to take out on Anchor Bay (in good weather only) and it did OK. Not the greatest lines for a sail boat, but was fun . If you're only planning on going on a small lake, I don't see any problem with a 13 footer. It would be fun to learn with and you may decide to move up into something bigger. The poster telling you to wear PFDs has a good point, a boat like that can tip over pretty easily. We used to have a Wayfarer Class regatta on LK. St. Clair and these were 16 ft. boats. They handled the St. Clair chop pretty well. |
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