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Small business surviving Obamanomics
Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having
employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. Lay of workers now while you can. Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. Do not invest in anything in the USA. Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On 11/6/09 5:10 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. Lay of workers now while you can. Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. Do not invest in anything in the USA. Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? Yep, another right-wing p.o.s. who knows that only by forcing America further down the drain do the Republicans have a remote chance of "winning" in 2012. Wny not repost your message where it will do some good, along with your name, company name, and location? |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. Lay of workers now while you can. Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. Do not invest in anything in the USA. Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? You're using the threat of health care to justify having moved your business offshore? I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. I have the ability to send my programming offshore. I'd risk being insolvent before caving to cheaper labor. That's un-American to me. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Nov 6, 5:56*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. *Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. *Lay of workers now while you can. *Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. *Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. *This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. *If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. *Do not invest in anything in the USA. *Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. *Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. *Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. *I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. *I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? You're using the threat of health care to justify having moved your business offshore? I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. *It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. I have the ability to send my programming offshore. *I'd risk being insolvent before caving to cheaper labor. *That's un-American to me. Kind of like someone who would make up stories about Japanese/German screwdrivers instead of buying good old "Merkin ones.. http://www.armstrongtools.com/ECommerce/Category.aspx There are many other manufacturers too, but of course, they aren't politically correct I guess.. Pffffttt Dude, nobody believes anything you say. Well, maybe Donnie and Harry do, but they are in your club anyway... |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Nov 6, 6:01*pm, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote: On Nov 6, 5:56*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. *Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. *Lay of workers now while you can. *Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. *Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. *This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. *If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. *Do not invest in anything in the USA. *Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. *Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. *Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. *I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. *I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? You're using the threat of health care to justify having moved your business offshore? I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. *It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. I have the ability to send my programming offshore. *I'd risk being insolvent before caving to cheaper labor. *That's un-American to me. Kind of like someone who would make up stories about Japanese/German screwdrivers instead of buying good old "Merkin ones.. http://www.armstrongtools.com/ECommerce/Category.aspx There are many other manufacturers too, but of course, they aren't politically correct I guess.. Pffffttt Dude, nobody believes anything you say. Well, maybe Donnie and Harry do, but they are in your club anyway... I have no problem Offering reasonable health insurance (big deductable and large co-pay) but Obama wants me to offer a gold plated health plan I cannot afford and then threatens to charge me 8% of revenue if I do not. Simple solution is to get rid of employees. Now, I can either hire someone who I will have difficulty laying off when things go bad AND have Obama punish me for not buying a gold plated health plan OR, I can simply contract with the guys in India to make the circuit for me, it is a no-brainer. Recently, the IRS started ragging on me about our SIMPLE retirement plan so I thought about it and decided that since I do not participate, why should I give the IRS further reason to make my life difficult so...........end of SIMPLE. I save money and make my life easier. You see, when you make business too difficult, some of us can simply walk away. I mean, I was giving my people a free 5% match of their contribution but the IRS decided to be a PITA, well, I figure no good deed goes unpunished so, end of SIMPLE, no more good deeds AND I let them know why I ended it. Obama voters, It is YOUR fault and I am simply going sailing instead of worrying about employees. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On 11/6/09 6:22 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 6, 6:01 pm, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 6, 5:56 pm, wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. Lay of workers now while you can. Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. Do not invest in anything in the USA. Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? You're using the threat of health care to justify having moved your business offshore? I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. I have the ability to send my programming offshore. I'd risk being insolvent before caving to cheaper labor. That's un-American to me. Kind of like someone who would make up stories about Japanese/German screwdrivers instead of buying good old "Merkin ones.. http://www.armstrongtools.com/ECommerce/Category.aspx There are many other manufacturers too, but of course, they aren't politically correct I guess.. Pffffttt Dude, nobody believes anything you say. Well, maybe Donnie and Harry do, but they are in your club anyway... I have no problem Offering reasonable health insurance (big deductable and large co-pay) but Obama wants me to offer a gold plated health plan I cannot afford and then threatens to charge me 8% of revenue if I do not. Simple solution is to get rid of employees. Now, I can either hire someone who I will have difficulty laying off when things go bad AND have Obama punish me for not buying a gold plated health plan OR, I can simply contract with the guys in India to make the circuit for me, it is a no-brainer. Recently, the IRS started ragging on me about our SIMPLE retirement plan so I thought about it and decided that since I do not participate, why should I give the IRS further reason to make my life difficult so...........end of SIMPLE. I save money and make my life easier. You see, when you make business too difficult, some of us can simply walk away. I mean, I was giving my people a free 5% match of their contribution but the IRS decided to be a PITA, well, I figure no good deed goes unpunished so, end of SIMPLE, no more good deeds AND I let them know why I ended it. Obama voters, It is YOUR fault and I am simply going sailing instead of worrying about employees. The reality, of course, is that your "business" has been in the crapper for some time, as evidence by a number of your posts here, and you've been looking for excuses to shut it down. Remember those begging posts about refinishing fishing reels? I do. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Nov 6, 6:30*pm, H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 6:22 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 6, 6:01 pm, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" *wrote: On Nov 6, 5:56 pm, *wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch *wrote: Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. *Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. *Lay of workers now while you can. *Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. *Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. *This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. *If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. *Do not invest in anything in the USA. *Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. *Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. *Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. *I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. *I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? You're using the threat of health care to justify having moved your business offshore? I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. *It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. I have the ability to send my programming offshore. *I'd risk being insolvent before caving to cheaper labor. *That's un-American to me.. Kind of like someone who would make up stories about Japanese/German screwdrivers instead of buying good old "Merkin ones.. http://www.armstrongtools.com/ECommerce/Category.aspx There are many other manufacturers too, but of course, they aren't politically correct I guess.. Pffffttt Dude, nobody believes anything you say. Well, maybe Donnie and Harry do, but they are in your club anyway... I have no problem Offering reasonable health insurance (big deductable and large co-pay) but Obama wants me to offer a gold plated *health plan I cannot afford and then threatens to charge me 8% of revenue if I do not. *Simple solution is to get rid of employees. *Now, I can either hire someone who I will have difficulty laying off when things go bad AND have Obama punish me for not buying a gold plated health plan OR, I can simply contract with the guys in India to make the circuit for me, it is a no-brainer. Recently, the IRS started ragging on me about our SIMPLE retirement plan so I thought about it and decided that since I do not participate, why should I give the IRS further reason to make my life difficult so...........end of SIMPLE. I save money and make my life easier. *You see, when you make business too difficult, some of us can simply walk away. *I mean, I was giving my people a free 5% match of their contribution but the IRS decided to be a PITA, well, I figure no good deed goes unpunished so, end of SIMPLE, no more good deeds AND I let them know why I ended it. Obama voters, It is YOUR fault and I am simply going sailing instead of worrying about employees. The reality, of course, is that your "business" has been in the crapper for some time, as evidence by a number of your posts here, and you've been looking for excuses to shut it down. Remember those begging posts about refinishing fishing reels? I do. Nobody begged me to refinish reels. Besides, that isnt my business it is owned by some of my employees who are now doing well making custom grips for various guns. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:22:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: On Nov 6, 6:01*pm, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 6, 5:56*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: Small businesses knowing that Obama intends to punish them for having employees by way of his 8% fee unless they pay for health care should take measures right now. 1. *Plan for no growth or even negative growth. 2. *Lay of workers now while you can. *Soon, Obama will make it difficult to do so. 3. *Instead of growth, consider licensing your stuff to a foreign company. *This way you do not have to pay employees or pay Obama’s 8% tax. 4. *If you really want to increase revenues, pay a foreign company to do what you would do in the USA and then buy it from them. 5. *Do not invest in anything in the USA. *Instead, buy stocks in foreign companies. 6. *Do not feel bad about living this way, the Dems are trying to punish you for being an employer so screw em and their voters. In my case, I have stopped manufacturing and have simply licensed our tech to a foreign company and they pay royalties. *Sure beats paying payroll taxes and the hassle of employees and worrying about Obama’s punishing me for being an employer. *I need a new thing developed but instead of hiring someone to do it, I found I could pay a company in India to develop it and then simply give me the drawings. *I wonder how high unemployment will have to get under Obamanomics before it is cheaper to pay people here than paying people in India? You're using the threat of health care to justify having moved your business offshore? I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. *It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. I have the ability to send my programming offshore. *I'd risk being insolvent before caving to cheaper labor. *That's un-American to me. Kind of like someone who would make up stories about Japanese/German screwdrivers instead of buying good old "Merkin ones.. http://www.armstrongtools.com/ECommerce/Category.aspx There are many other manufacturers too, but of course, they aren't politically correct I guess.. Pffffttt Dude, nobody believes anything you say. Well, maybe Donnie and Harry do, but they are in your club anyway... I have no problem Offering reasonable health insurance (big deductable and large co-pay) but Obama wants me to offer a gold plated health plan I cannot afford and then threatens to charge me 8% of revenue if I do not. Simple solution is to get rid of employees. Golly, he hasn't told me that yet and, even if he does, it probably won't go into effect for some time. In the meanwhile, I'm going to figure out how to get my employees decent coverage for reasonable money. Now, I can either hire someone who I will have difficulty laying off when things go bad AND have Obama punish me for not buying a gold plated health plan OR, I can simply contract with the guys in India to make the circuit for me, it is a no-brainer. Cheap labor. The only reason not to carry an employee is because you cannot afford it or justify it. If health insurance is the thing that tips the scale, then you couldn't afford it in the first place. Recently, the IRS started ragging on me about our SIMPLE retirement plan so I thought about it and decided that since I do not participate, why should I give the IRS further reason to make my life difficult so...........end of SIMPLE. I save money and make my life easier. You see, when you make business too difficult, some of us can simply walk away. I mean, I was giving my people a free 5% match of their contribution but the IRS decided to be a PITA, well, I figure no good deed goes unpunished so, end of SIMPLE, no more good deeds AND I let them know why I ended it. Obama voters, It is YOUR fault and I am simply going sailing instead of worrying about employees. OK, we'll take up the slack for your slacker attitude. If the country runs out of social security funds, I hope you'll be the first to volunteer yours for the good of the country. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
"BAR" wrote in message . .. In article 9c1cfb77-3a28-463b-bc0a- .. Contract with someone else to supply your labor. That's exactly what I do now. As long as I have evidence of Worker's Comp, I'm ok with it. It's difficult enough jumping thru the hoops already in place for a small business. It's only gonna get worse. Small business runs this country, not the big corps, and Obama is biting the hand that feeds. --Mike |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:56:49 -0800, jps wrote:
I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. Some people seem to forget about how business related health care came into effect. During WWII, wage and price controls were in effect. Health care insurance was exempted, and used as a lure to hire better employees. That lure still works. Don't provide health care, don't expect quality employees, unless you are willing to pay them over market wages, 20% over market wages. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
"mgg" wrote in message
... "BAR" wrote in message . .. In article 9c1cfb77-3a28-463b-bc0a- . Contract with someone else to supply your labor. That's exactly what I do now. As long as I have evidence of Worker's Comp, I'm ok with it. It's difficult enough jumping thru the hoops already in place for a small business. It's only gonna get worse. Small business runs this country, not the big corps, and Obama is biting the hand that feeds. --Mike Then, I guess you can expect he'll not have a second term. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"thunder" wrote in message
t... On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:56:49 -0800, jps wrote: I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. Some people seem to forget about how business related health care came into effect. During WWII, wage and price controls were in effect. Health care insurance was exempted, and used as a lure to hire better employees. That lure still works. Don't provide health care, don't expect quality employees, unless you are willing to pay them over market wages, 20% over market wages. Even temp agencies offer health and retirement benefits to lure good workers. It's pretty standard. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:51:21 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:56:49 -0800, jps wrote: I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. Some people seem to forget about how business related health care came into effect. During WWII, wage and price controls were in effect. Health care insurance was exempted, and used as a lure to hire better employees. That lure still works. Don't provide health care, don't expect quality employees, unless you are willing to pay them over market wages, 20% over market wages. Dead on right. If you're not willing to put up in a competitive market, you end up with inferior resources. |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:50:00 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "mgg" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. In article 9c1cfb77-3a28-463b-bc0a- . Contract with someone else to supply your labor. That's exactly what I do now. As long as I have evidence of Worker's Comp, I'm ok with it. It's difficult enough jumping thru the hoops already in place for a small business. It's only gonna get worse. Small business runs this country, not the big corps, and Obama is biting the hand that feeds. --Mike Then, I guess you can expect he'll not have a second term. We were stupid enough to re-elect GW Bush for a second term while he was bankrupting the country. What makes you think we're "smart" enough to turn Obama down for second term? Will it be the abortion issue? |
Small business surviving Obamanomics
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:51:21 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:56:49 -0800, jps wrote: I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. Some people seem to forget about how business related health care came into effect. During WWII, wage and price controls were in effect. Health care insurance was exempted, and used as a lure to hire better employees. That lure still works. Don't provide health care, don't expect quality employees, unless you are willing to pay them over market wages, 20% over market wages. Lack of health care is an invitation for a union to organize your shop up here. The south is a different world. A good small business is similar to a family, and folks look out for each other. My kid works for a shop which provides health insurance, and the older guys who have had to use it for cancer treatment, baby delivery and such are highly loyal. They pass that loyalty on to the youngsters. I saw that right away with my kid. He has all that mechanic schooling and I thought he would end up in a dealership making more money. But he's happy in that shop making less. Old-fashioned, bedrock American stuff. Eisboch had that right stuff. I don't recall him mentioning it, but I'll give good odds his employees had affordable health care. I'll hold my tongue about the rest of stuff Froggy spouted, except to say my understanding of the health care bill requirement for providing group insurance for employees or be taxed doesn't even kick in until 50 employees. A public plan could get business away from the insurance hassle altogether. So his entire rant begins with political bull****, and then goes fast downhill from there. All the various wingers sound like commies to me. Split everybody apart with bull****, turn one against the other and keep everybody so busy fighting they don't see what's going on. Only difference is no cheap vodka. Par for the course. Don't care for golf, but hey. --Vic |
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On Nov 7, 4:48*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:51:21 -0600, thunder wrote: On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:56:49 -0800, jps wrote: I can't imagine not covering my employees with health insurance. *It's damned expensive and a pain in the ass but among the ways that I can show them that we care about them and their family's welfare. Some people seem to forget about how business related health care came into effect. *During WWII, wage and price controls were in effect. * Health care insurance was exempted, and used as a lure to hire better employees. *That lure still works. *Don't provide health care, don't expect quality employees, unless you are willing to pay them over market wages, 20% over market wages. Lack of health care is an invitation for a union to organize your shop up here. *The south is a different world. A good small business is similar to a family, and folks look out for each other. *My kid works for a shop which provides health insurance, and the older guys who have had to use it for cancer treatment, baby delivery and such are highly loyal. They pass that loyalty on to the youngsters. I saw that right away with my kid. *He has all that mechanic schooling and I thought he would end up in a dealership making more money. But he's happy in that shop making less. Old-fashioned, bedrock American stuff. *Eisboch had that right stuff. I don't recall him mentioning it, but I'll give good odds his employees had affordable health care. I'll hold my tongue about the rest of stuff Froggy spouted, except to say my understanding of the health care bill requirement for providing group insurance for employees or be taxed doesn't even kick in until 50 employees. *A public plan could get business away from the insurance hassle altogether. So his entire rant begins with political bull****, and then goes fast downhill from there. All the various wingers sound like commies to me. Split everybody apart with bull****, turn one against the other and keep everybody so busy fighting they don't see what's going on. Only difference is no cheap vodka. Par for the course. *Don't care for golf, but hey. --Vic Vic: Stop being so reasonable, you spoil the fun. |
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H the K wrote:
The reality, of course, is that your "business" has been in the crapper for some time, as evidence by a number of your posts here, Ha ha ha. This is too funny. Johnson |
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