Bill McKee wrote:
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:39:17 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"

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Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take
time to
reverse.
NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment.
Even
the simps should be able to comprehend...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl...
Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the
part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a
recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to
employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage
small business to lay people off AND encourage other small
businesses
to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for
growth
is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also
keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses.
The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic
mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no
such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney
Frank
wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards
to
force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance
companies will collapse.


Reply: Nice rant, but has very little to do with reality.

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Nom=de=Plume

Actually has a lot to do with reality and history. When I was a kid,
there were ushers at the movie theater. Most of those went away when
the minimum wage was implemented. All those jobs the kids did
starting
out and learning how to be a worker disappeared. Raise the cost of
business too much, and the business will disappear. Just like in
California. Raise the sales tax to 9.75%. Probably a boom in
internet
sales. People like me that were planing a trip anyway, replaced the
tires in another state. Saved 4.5% on $800. Wife said too bad we
were
not planing a trip to Oregon. Want a nice paint job on your car?
Take
it out of state. Body shops can only use water based color paints
now.
But the home painter without a spray booth and filters can use the
good
paint.


I think he was talking about some notion of a tax on small business re
heathcare.

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Nom=de=Plume

He may have been, but it is all cost to the business. And if a
business
can not make a decent profit, then the business will close.
Yes, it's all cost vs. income. If you can't stand the heat, get out of
the
kitchen.

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Nom=de=Plume

That is very true. And if the government raises costs too much, you get
more business closing and more unemployment.
This must be a joke or you're lying.

The costs to companies who are providing health care (like my own) are
being weighed down by the escalating costs.

My primary concern is that those costs come down. I'm hoping that
health care reform (if it has a public option) will facilitate that.
Otherwise, it's been a waste of time. I'm expecting that's not lost
on our lawmakers.

So, are you ignorant or are you lying?

Neither. How is the government going to reduce the overall cost of health
care?


It'll be fun to see how the dummies explain how this could be possible.
Wanna bet eliminating theft, graft, and waste aren't part of their
solutions?