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Vic Smith October 17th 09 06:11 PM

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Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic

Jim October 17th 09 07:11 PM

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Vic Smith wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic


The first time is the hardest.

Vic Smith October 17th 09 07:39 PM

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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:04 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic


The first time is the hardest.


Yep. Once the belt is stretched it must get easier.
Funny thing is, though I rebuilt my '64 engine myself and could get
the thing out in about 10 minutes for a clutch change, I don't
remember anything about the generator.
Can't even remember ever changing the belt.
Forgetting that stuff used to bother me.
Doesn't now though. Forgot how to get bothered.

--Vic



nom=de=plume October 17th 09 07:44 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic



Neat trick!

--
Nom=de=Plume



Tom Francis - SWSports October 17th 09 08:06 PM

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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:11:45 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a


Baloney. He put the same belt back on - it's already stretched.

Never do it with a new one.

Tim October 18th 09 03:03 AM

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On Oct 17, 12:11*pm, Vic Smith
wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic


Notice the vid is dedicated to the guy that taught him how to do that.
(R.I.P)

Maybe the belt flipped the screwdriver out of his hand and it went
through his heart or throat.

Jim October 18th 09 07:53 PM

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:04 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic

The first time is the hardest.


Yep. Once the belt is stretched it must get easier.
Funny thing is, though I rebuilt my '64 engine myself and could get
the thing out in about 10 minutes for a clutch change, I don't
remember anything about the generator.
Can't even remember ever changing the belt.
Forgetting that stuff used to bother me.
Doesn't now though. Forgot how to get bothered.

--Vic



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Vic Smith October 18th 09 08:09 PM

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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, Jim wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.


Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

--Vic

Tom Francis - SWSports October 19th 09 01:07 PM

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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, Jim wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.


Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.


I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.

Tosk October 19th 09 02:29 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, Jim wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.


Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.


I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.


Saw a guy use an allen wrench to take a part out of a centerless
grinder, lost three fingers...

H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 06:08 PM

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On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.


I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.


The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.



At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices. A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.




--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


jps October 19th 09 06:14 PM

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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:39:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:04 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic


The first time is the hardest.


Yep. Once the belt is stretched it must get easier.
Funny thing is, though I rebuilt my '64 engine myself and could get
the thing out in about 10 minutes for a clutch change, I don't
remember anything about the generator.
Can't even remember ever changing the belt.
Forgetting that stuff used to bother me.
Doesn't now though. Forgot how to get bothered.

--Vic


You must have used the generator pulley to turn the engine during
valve adjustments. Spark plug socket on a 3/8" ratchet. Does that
spark a memory?

Vic Smith October 19th 09 06:41 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:14:59 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:39:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:04 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic

The first time is the hardest.


Yep. Once the belt is stretched it must get easier.
Funny thing is, though I rebuilt my '64 engine myself and could get
the thing out in about 10 minutes for a clutch change, I don't
remember anything about the generator.
Can't even remember ever changing the belt.
Forgetting that stuff used to bother me.
Doesn't now though. Forgot how to get bothered.

--Vic


You must have used the generator pulley to turn the engine during
valve adjustments. Spark plug socket on a 3/8" ratchet. Does that
spark a memory?


Nope. Just makes me remember .006" and .008" for some reason.
That's probably wrong too.
But I really think I would have turned the crank pulley for that
without using the gen pulley. Seem to recall that I could easily turn
it by just grabbing the belt.
You know these engines?
I put a Bosch centrifugal advance distributor on mine straight off
when I bought the car and did the jugs. Think the jug/piston/ring set
was only about 60 bucks. The dist about the same.
Ever hear that high-pitch noise coming from them?
A little white lube on the dist cam follower fixes that right up.
I took care of mine and it never let me down, but those engines
were always going to suffer blow-by after about 60k miles.
Metallurgy more than anything else I think.
They were so simple they were fun to work on.

--Vic

jps October 19th 09 06:56 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:41:42 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:14:59 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:39:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:04 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
Found in another group.
Looks neat.
But don't even think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VOLKSWAGNUT#p/a

--Vic

The first time is the hardest.

Yep. Once the belt is stretched it must get easier.
Funny thing is, though I rebuilt my '64 engine myself and could get
the thing out in about 10 minutes for a clutch change, I don't
remember anything about the generator.
Can't even remember ever changing the belt.
Forgetting that stuff used to bother me.
Doesn't now though. Forgot how to get bothered.

--Vic


You must have used the generator pulley to turn the engine during
valve adjustments. Spark plug socket on a 3/8" ratchet. Does that
spark a memory?


Nope. Just makes me remember .006" and .008" for some reason.
That's probably wrong too.
But I really think I would have turned the crank pulley for that
without using the gen pulley. Seem to recall that I could easily turn
it by just grabbing the belt.
You know these engines?
I put a Bosch centrifugal advance distributor on mine straight off
when I bought the car and did the jugs. Think the jug/piston/ring set
was only about 60 bucks. The dist about the same.
Ever hear that high-pitch noise coming from them?
A little white lube on the dist cam follower fixes that right up.
I took care of mine and it never let me down, but those engines
were always going to suffer blow-by after about 60k miles.
Metallurgy more than anything else I think.
They were so simple they were fun to work on.

--Vic


Fond memories of greasing the dist cam.

I recall .004 and .006 but that could be wrong too. My first car was
a '61 VW with a pull-back sunroof and a blown engine ($125). $250 in
parts and the manual and I was in business. Think I rebuilt that
engine a couple of times. It ended up a baja bug. It's sale financed
my move to S. Cal.

I worked on 'em for the next 5 years, earning a living while going to
school. Not an easy living but totally worthwhile. Worked my way up
to a dealership in L.A. that sold VW and Porsche and built a large
inventory of tools.

Lusted after the six cylinder version of that aircooled engine for
years. What a lovely sound they make.

Vic Smith October 19th 09 07:15 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:56:36 -0700, jps wrote:



Fond memories of greasing the dist cam.

I recall .004 and .006 but that could be wrong too. My first car was
a '61 VW with a pull-back sunroof and a blown engine ($125). $250 in
parts and the manual and I was in business. Think I rebuilt that
engine a couple of times. It ended up a baja bug. It's sale financed
my move to S. Cal.

When mine rusted beyond drivability in '74 - seat sinking, rocker
panels gone - a guy wanted to buy it just for the frame for a beach
buggy.
This was in Chicago. It was news to me. Didn't work because I had
lost the title, so I had a boneyard pick it up.
Had a '67 Squareback later, but it was just trouble.
Good memories with the bug though.
First car I got into working on, thanks in large part to that book -
can't remember the title - but it was probably the first real "for
dummies" book.
Went a little beyond that though - ground my valves with compound,
stem chucked into a reversing drill.
Worked fine. Who needs all them angles, eh?

--Vic

jps October 19th 09 08:00 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:15:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:56:36 -0700, jps wrote:



Fond memories of greasing the dist cam.

I recall .004 and .006 but that could be wrong too. My first car was
a '61 VW with a pull-back sunroof and a blown engine ($125). $250 in
parts and the manual and I was in business. Think I rebuilt that
engine a couple of times. It ended up a baja bug. It's sale financed
my move to S. Cal.

When mine rusted beyond drivability in '74 - seat sinking, rocker
panels gone - a guy wanted to buy it just for the frame for a beach
buggy.
This was in Chicago. It was news to me. Didn't work because I had
lost the title, so I had a boneyard pick it up.
Had a '67 Squareback later, but it was just trouble.
Good memories with the bug though.
First car I got into working on, thanks in large part to that book -
can't remember the title - but it was probably the first real "for
dummies" book.
Went a little beyond that though - ground my valves with compound,
stem chucked into a reversing drill.
Worked fine. Who needs all them angles, eh?

--Vic


It was HOW TO KEEP YOUR VW ALIVE, aka IDIOT GUIDE.

That was the book I used on the first rebuild too. Great
introduction. In the five years forward, I'm sure I touched every
part of every version of that car. Squareback, Ghia, Bus.

The squareback was a bitch. Remember knashing my knuckes on the sheet
metal while pulling plugs on tuneups. Good thing it was S. Cal
because doing that in cold weather can make tools fly and customers
run for cover.

Snap on guy was always happy to see me, nearly as happy as the roach
coach folks on payday.

Vic Smith October 19th 09 08:11 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:00:23 -0700, jps wrote:



Snap on guy was always happy to see me, nearly as happy as the roach
coach folks on payday.


Heh. One of my kids is a mech and just yesterday bent my ear for half
an hour about the Snap-on, Mack, and Matco guys. The stories.
Right now the Matco guy is his favorite, but that guy won't last.
He's too easy.

--Vic

Don White October 19th 09 08:22 PM

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.


The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.



At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed, there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.



H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 08:29 PM

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On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.

The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.



At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed, there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.



Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and
videotape it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal
management is as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally,
tens of thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the
mid and lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations,
and waqe-hour violations.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


jps October 19th 09 09:34 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:11:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:00:23 -0700, jps wrote:



Snap on guy was always happy to see me, nearly as happy as the roach
coach folks on payday.


Heh. One of my kids is a mech and just yesterday bent my ear for half
an hour about the Snap-on, Mack, and Matco guys. The stories.
Right now the Matco guy is his favorite, but that guy won't last.
He's too easy.

--Vic


The calendars are nice but I was always more attacted to the tools.
There was nothing like turning bolt or nut with a Snap on wrench or
yanking a tool out of the lower drawer that made a big $ job a 20
minute turnaround. Those tools paid for themselves in little time.

When I was ready to move on to my next career, the service manager
looked at me and said "you vill alvays yearn to have a leetle greeze
under your fingernails. When you can't take it anymore, you come back
and see me." He was right but I was never tempted to turn wrenches
again for a living. It's way more fun to do it for joy.

I'm sad that I can't do it in an engine room right now but I can still
screw around with cars. I did end up with an aircooled six and it's a
gas to work on.

jps October 19th 09 09:38 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:30:43 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"H the K" wrote in message
om...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.

The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.



At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed, there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Sounds like the union people were too stupid to ask for the safety
interlocks to work.


Sounds like management was eager to be the first to test the
equipment. Thank goodness a union worker didhn't have to be injured
checking management's bad investment.

Bill McKee October 19th 09 10:29 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, Jim wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.


I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.


The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.


The NCR check sorters were even faster. Everyone who worked on them wore
clip on ties. The IBM sorters read the checks better, but the sorting was
slower. At BofA San Francisco, they had maybe 9 IBM sorters to read into
the computer and the sorts were all done off line on I think 5 sorters.
Yes, those 3800 laser printers were inpressive. Worked on the channel
interface for a Siemens ND2 laser printer. 30" a second printing. Brings
back some good memories.



Bill McKee October 19th 09 10:30 PM

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.


The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.



At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed, there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Sounds like the union people were too stupid to ask for the safety
interlocks to work.



Roger 1[_4_] October 20th 09 01:06 AM

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H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.

The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.


At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.



Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.


More WAFA bull****.

jps October 20th 09 01:09 AM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.

The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.


At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.



Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.


More WAFA bull****.


Is the the buttsniffer Dan?

H the K[_2_] October 20th 09 02:11 AM

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On 10/19/09 8:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.

Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.

I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.

The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.


At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.



Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.



Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.


More WAFA bull****.


Is the the buttsniffer Dan?



Yeah. It sure is. Dan Krueger, as he used to be known here. A turd by
any other name smells like ****, as "Roger" demonstrates.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Roger 1[_5_] October 21st 09 02:12 AM

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jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:


I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.
Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.
I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.
The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.

At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.


Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.


Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.

More WAFA bull****.


Is the the buttsniffer Dan?


"the the"? Is this Dumb Don?

jps October 21st 09 02:22 AM

Quick Belt Change
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:12:51 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:


I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.
Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.
I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.
The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.

At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.


Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.


Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.

More WAFA bull****.


Is the the buttsniffer Dan?


"the the"? Is this Dumb Don?


Back to the old buttsniffing, eh Dildo Dan?

Hard day at work hauling turds?

Richard Casady October 21st 09 07:06 PM

Quick Belt Change
 
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, Jim wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.


Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.


My car has no belts. Power steering and fuel pump on the rear of the
camshaft. Three stage oil pump on the front of the camshaft. Water
pump on the nose of the crank. No fan. No transmission. No electrics.
No doors. No clutch. No tranny. Two wings. Runs on methanol, 2 mpg.
Sprint cars are the best show in racing.

Casady

Richard Casady October 21st 09 07:17 PM

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:56:36 -0700, jps wrote:

Lusted after the six cylinder version of that aircooled engine for
years. What a lovely sound they make.


I had the 4 carb Corvair. If you ran it flat out you needed 100 octane
avgas or it would melt. The turbo was also easy to melt.

Casady

jps October 21st 09 07:43 PM

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:17:17 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:56:36 -0700, jps wrote:

Lusted after the six cylinder version of that aircooled engine for
years. What a lovely sound they make.


I had the 4 carb Corvair. If you ran it flat out you needed 100 octane
avgas or it would melt. The turbo was also easy to melt.

Casady


In high school some older kids made one of them go a little too fast
and it went airborne. One of them didn't survive the flight.

Tosk October 21st 09 08:45 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, Jim wrote:



I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.


Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.


My car has no belts. Power steering and fuel pump on the rear of the
camshaft. Three stage oil pump on the front of the camshaft. Water
pump on the nose of the crank. No fan. No transmission. No electrics.
No doors. No clutch. No tranny. Two wings. Runs on methanol, 2 mpg.
Sprint cars are the best show in racing.

Casady


Sprint cars might be cool, but the best show in racing this year was the
NEMA Motocross open Womens class... No doors, no sissy bars;)

Rowdy Mouse Racing, You *wish* you could "play like a girl".

Roger 1[_5_] October 22nd 09 01:29 AM

Quick Belt Change
 
jps wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:12:51 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:


I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.
Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.
I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.
The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.
At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.


Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.


Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.

More WAFA bull****.
Is the the buttsniffer Dan?

"the the"? Is this Dumb Don?


Back to the old buttsniffing, eh Dildo Dan?

Hard day at work hauling turds?


Do you have a dumb teenager who wrote that for you?

jps October 22nd 09 02:27 AM

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:29:55 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:12:51 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:


I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.
Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.
I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.
The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.
At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.


Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.


Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.

More WAFA bull****.
Is the the buttsniffer Dan?
"the the"? Is this Dumb Don?


Back to the old buttsniffing, eh Dildo Dan?

Hard day at work hauling turds?


Do you have a dumb teenager who wrote that for you?


No, your Dad came over to visit and yanked the keyboard away from me.

He misses you (but not the smell) and wishes you all the best hauling
those stanky turds.

He said he's embarassed that you're a buttsniffer but blamed it on
your mother.

John H.[_9_] October 22nd 09 06:59 PM

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:27:18 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:29:55 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:12:51 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:06 -0400, Roger 1
wrote:

H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 3:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:53:50 -0700, wrote:


I actually meant that putting the screwdriver under a running belt
would
scare the **** out of me, until I'd done it and seen the screw
driver
wouldn't get thrown at me like a knife.
Yeah. Since I put away the timing light and dwell meter I don't get
my hands near a running engine. Checking trans fluid and sometimes
touching around with a steth probe is about it.
Even then I check my sleeves first.
I haven't seen a sleeve do it, but I did see a rag get snatched out of
a guys hand on a high speed lathe, come back around and debrided the
back of his hand.
The guys who worked on check sorters used to say "if you get your tie
caught in there they will have a hard time getting your socks out"

Even the laser printers that were slow by comparison still moved paper
at 32 inches a second.
The check sorters were more like 250 inches a second.
At a bulk mail center in New Jersey, the managers decided a sorting
machine was not running fast enough, so they removed some safety
devices.
A worker was drawn into the machine and crushed.

At another bulk center, management was proudly demonstrating new safety
devices on driverless robot carts. The carts had sensitive bumpers that
would "stop the cart immediately" upon impact, and, if that failed,
there
was an overhead safety rope that if yanked, would stop the cart.

Yup. The manager demonstrating the robocart to the media got in front of
it and let it hit him. It did not stop. It knocked him to the concrete
floor and then ran over him. Lying there on the floor, he couldn't reach
the overhead cable.


Don't you just love it when something like that happens to a kiss-ass
mid-manager.


Especially when the local TV stations are there to witness and videotape
it and show it on the evening news. I don't know if postal management is
as despotic these days as it used to be, but, literally, tens of
thousands of grievances used to be filed each year against the mid and
lower upper managers for contract violations, safety violations, and
waqe-hour violations.

More WAFA bull****.
Is the the buttsniffer Dan?
"the the"? Is this Dumb Don?

Back to the old buttsniffing, eh Dildo Dan?

Hard day at work hauling turds?


Do you have a dumb teenager who wrote that for you?


No, your Dad came over to visit and yanked the keyboard away from me.

He misses you (but not the smell) and wishes you all the best hauling
those stanky turds.

He said he's embarassed that you're a buttsniffer but blamed it on
your mother.



Nomdeplum - This is jps doing his Scott and Harry imitations!

Don't you just love it?


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