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... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:25:21 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:31 am, Keith Nuttle wrote: wf3h wrote: don't rely on the right wing media for your news If you would read what I referenced it is the daily closing for the DOW for the last several year. That is not dependent on the obama news media. the BLS says the recession started in 12/07. regardless of your tin foil hat delusions. and bush was president Again if you look at the DOW closing history, the financial bailout that was passed, stabilized the market after the pelosi plunge until obama took office, then it started the obama slide obama slide? how is a 10,000 market a 'slide'? do right wingers know how to count? The market started to reclaim what it had lost when obama suffered his first the small defeat at the hands of the congress in the middle of March 2009. Read the data. The market's done quite well since we learned that the Olympics are not coming to Chicago. Heck, the market reaction to 'Bama's winning of the Peace Prize shows it has a keen sense of humor also. Great. So, now you're claiming that because Chicago didn't get the Olympics, the market is up? By that logic, because Obama won the Nobel, the markets went up? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 10/15/09 4:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... In , says... H the K wrote: On 10/15/09 12:44 PM, wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:59 am, H the wrote: On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote: obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months... With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a lot better than he is. meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going? ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing. you've never worked on an engineering project, have you? \ Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields. As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds. In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this: Published:23-July-2009 By WCIN Staff Writer The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA. exactly. they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc etc... the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky. the rest of us know they have to be built Morons of the right is so...right. We certainly have a plethora of them in here...John Herring being a prime example. But...his buddy Scott Ingersoll is even dumber. You mutts seem to run in packs. Harry is real brave under his desk. He had his chance to meet up and get his beating this summer with me and loogie, but like most little bitches, he ran for the hills. Seems all of these far lefties are cowardly little bitches with nothing to add to much of anything... You sound like a paper tiger... I sincerely doubt you'd have the guts to say anything like this to my face, and I'm not much of a match physically. It sure is easy to lie when you don't have to face someone. You must be quite the manly man with women. Tosk, aka Scott Ingersoll, spends his weekends in a tent with an underaged girl. I am not kidding. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:08:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:25:21 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:31 am, Keith Nuttle wrote: wf3h wrote: don't rely on the right wing media for your news If you would read what I referenced it is the daily closing for the DOW for the last several year. That is not dependent on the obama news media. the BLS says the recession started in 12/07. regardless of your tin foil hat delusions. and bush was president Again if you look at the DOW closing history, the financial bailout that was passed, stabilized the market after the pelosi plunge until obama took office, then it started the obama slide obama slide? how is a 10,000 market a 'slide'? do right wingers know how to count? The market started to reclaim what it had lost when obama suffered his first the small defeat at the hands of the congress in the middle of March 2009. Read the data. The market's done quite well since we learned that the Olympics are not coming to Chicago. Heck, the market reaction to 'Bama's winning of the Peace Prize shows it has a keen sense of humor also. Great. So, now you're claiming that because Chicago didn't get the Olympics, the market is up? By that logic, because Obama won the Nobel, the markets went up? Read for content. The makers and shakers of the market thought the Prize was a good joke. They love a good joke. So, the market went up. It pays for those folks to be in a good mood. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:08:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:25:21 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:31 am, Keith Nuttle wrote: wf3h wrote: don't rely on the right wing media for your news If you would read what I referenced it is the daily closing for the DOW for the last several year. That is not dependent on the obama news media. the BLS says the recession started in 12/07. regardless of your tin foil hat delusions. and bush was president Again if you look at the DOW closing history, the financial bailout that was passed, stabilized the market after the pelosi plunge until obama took office, then it started the obama slide obama slide? how is a 10,000 market a 'slide'? do right wingers know how to count? The market started to reclaim what it had lost when obama suffered his first the small defeat at the hands of the congress in the middle of March 2009. Read the data. The market's done quite well since we learned that the Olympics are not coming to Chicago. Heck, the market reaction to 'Bama's winning of the Peace Prize shows it has a keen sense of humor also. Great. So, now you're claiming that because Chicago didn't get the Olympics, the market is up? By that logic, because Obama won the Nobel, the markets went up? Read for content. The makers and shakers of the market thought the Prize was a good joke. They love a good joke. So, the market went up. It pays for those folks to be in a good mood. Sounds like Obama rationale to me.... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 10/15/09 4:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:30:58 -0400, John H. wrote: BTW another reason to get your sell orders in is to lock in your profits under the Bush capital gains rates. As soon as they get this health care deal settled, the next step is paying for it and capital gains will be one place they "stick it to the rich". Right now you only pay taxes on gains at a max of 15% and it is really even lower than that for most people. Plan on that creeping up to your ordinary income rate. Some of us have a very minor capital loss to apply to the gains. Maybe there's not such a reason to rush the sale yet. If you have enough losses to wash your gains, holding and hoping might be a better strategy but if you can only wash a small percentage a big bump in the cap gains tax will hurt you. Better to get out while you can do it cheaply. Whew! My half-interest in our strip shopping mall/center partnership in Connecticut is still doing well. We've lost only one tenant these past two years for inability to pay, and that tenant was replaced this summer. We were going to sell the mall and therefore have "proceeds" to invest...I'm glad every day we did not. It throws off a nice income to me and to my family lawyer partner up in Connecticut, *and* it provides a small but steady fee for our accountant, who collects the rents and pays the bills and supervise maintenance. All three of us have been close friends since our summer boyhood beach days in Milford. Fifty year friendships are priceless. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... H the K wrote: On 10/15/09 12:44 PM, wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:59 am, H the wrote: On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote: obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months... With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a lot better than he is. meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going? ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing. you've never worked on an engineering project, have you? \ Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields. As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds. In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this: Published:23-July-2009 By WCIN Staff Writer The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA. exactly. they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc etc... the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky. the rest of us know they have to be built Morons of the right is so...right. We certainly have a plethora of them in here...John Herring being a prime example. But...his buddy Scott Ingersoll is even dumber. You mutts seem to run in packs. Harry is real brave under his desk. He had his chance to meet up and get his beating this summer with me and loogie, but like most little bitches, he ran for the hills. Seems all of these far lefties are cowardly little bitches with nothing to add to much of anything... You sound like a paper tiger... I sincerely doubt you'd have the guts to say anything like this to my face, and I'm not much of a match physically. It sure is easy to lie when you don't have to face someone. You must be quite the manly man with women. -- Nom=de=Plume You have 'The Freak' act figured out. Wish I had saved the correspondence when the Basskisser was threatening to visit him at his moldy workshop. The Freak had lined up every able bodied man, woman and child to put between himself and the Basskisser. It was priceless...a great idea for a comedy skit. |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/15/09 4:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:55:33 -0400, H the K wrote: I think the health insurers should lose their anti-trust exemptions. Frankly, I don't know what public purpose private, for-profit health insurers serve. What function does insurance in general have? Do you want the government to write life, homeowner's and car insurance too? They already write flood Being opposed to private, for-profit health insurance does not mean I want to put government in its place. There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. I do favor a government-run but not necessarily government-underwritten option for those who want one. You are beginning to sound like Princess Little Feather. You want a private, not for profit company to fund a government managed health plan. Sure. I want in. Where do I sign up? |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: On 10/15/09 4:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:55:33 -0400, H the K wrote: I think the health insurers should lose their anti-trust exemptions. Frankly, I don't know what public purpose private, for-profit health insurers serve. What function does insurance in general have? Do you want the government to write life, homeowner's and car insurance too? They already write flood Being opposed to private, for-profit health insurance does not mean I want to put government in its place. There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. I do favor a government-run but not necessarily government-underwritten option for those who want one. You are beginning to sound like Princess Little Feather. You want a private, not for profit company to fund a government managed health plan. Sure. I want in. Where do I sign up? Right here..cupcake. That's exactly what we have in Nova Scotia. Medavie Blue Cross administers our MSI, Seniors Pharmacare, Family Drug Plan & Childhood Dental Plan + the Diabetes Program |
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: On 10/15/09 4:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:55:33 -0400, H the K wrote: I think the health insurers should lose their anti-trust exemptions. Frankly, I don't know what public purpose private, for-profit health insurers serve. What function does insurance in general have? Do you want the government to write life, homeowner's and car insurance too? They already write flood Being opposed to private, for-profit health insurance does not mean I want to put government in its place. There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. I do favor a government-run but not necessarily government-underwritten option for those who want one. You are beginning to sound like Princess Little Feather. You want a private, not for profit company to fund a government managed health plan. Sure. I want in. Where do I sign up? Right here..cupcake. That's exactly what we have in Nova Scotia. Medavie Blue Cross administers our MSI, Seniors Pharmacare, Family Drug Plan & Childhood Dental Plan + the Diabetes Program Sacrebleu Save the sweet talk for the lonely princess. Did you know that managed and administered are essentially the same. So unless Blue Cross is the government you are way far out mistaken. |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:12:21 -0400, somebody wrote:
There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. That's a great idea, don' know why I didn't think of it first. Let's put together a group of like minded entrepreneurs, invest some money, and start a private not-for-profit company to do this. Oh wait, what's our incentive? How do we get compensated for our time, effort and risk? The devil is always in the details. Marx and Lenin founded an economic system with no incentives for risk and effort. We all know how that turned out. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Oct 14, 6:07 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:45:08 -0400, H the K wrote: Dow closes above 10,000 for 1st time in a year By SARA LEPRO and TIM PARADIS, AP Business Writers NEW YORK ? When the Dow Jones industrial average first passed 10,000, traders tossed commemorative caps and uncorked champagne. This time around, the feeling was more like relief. The best-known barometer of the stock market entered five-figure territory again Wednesday, the most visible sign yet that investors believe the economy is clawing its way back from the worst downturn since the Depression. The milestone caps a stunning 53 percent comeback for the Dow since early March, when stocks were at their lowest levels in more than a decade. "It's almost like an announcement that the bear market is over," said Arthur Hogan, chief market analyst at Jefferies & Co. in Boston. "That is an eye-opener ? 'Hey, you know what, things must be getting better because the Dow is over 10,000.'" Cheers went up briefly when the Dow eclipsed the milestone in the early afternoon, during a daylong rally driven by encouraging earnings reports from Intel Corp. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. The average closed at 10,015.86, up 144.80 points. It was the first time the Dow had touched 10,000 since October 2008, that time on the way down. I'm sure the millions of unemployed are just tickled pink about this news. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months... Bush and the Democrats running the Senate? |
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: On 10/15/09 4:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:55:33 -0400, H the K wrote: I think the health insurers should lose their anti-trust exemptions. Frankly, I don't know what public purpose private, for-profit health insurers serve. What function does insurance in general have? Do you want the government to write life, homeowner's and car insurance too? They already write flood Being opposed to private, for-profit health insurance does not mean I want to put government in its place. There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. I do favor a government-run but not necessarily government-underwritten option for those who want one. You are beginning to sound like Princess Little Feather. You want a private, not for profit company to fund a government managed health plan. Sure. I want in. Where do I sign up? Right here..cupcake. That's exactly what we have in Nova Scotia. Medavie Blue Cross administers our MSI, Seniors Pharmacare, Family Drug Plan & Childhood Dental Plan + the Diabetes Program Crappy health care at a premium price! And, no, it's not "free". |
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... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:51:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: It's foolish in the extreme to attempt to time the market. The best strategy is dollar cost averaging and diversification, both domestically and in foreign markets. I always hear that but it is also foolish to simply buy and hold. There are trends you can follow and indications of when a market is overpriced and I think it is overpriced right now. Irrational exuberance might notch it up incrementally higher but we don't really have the recovery at this point to justify the current stock prices. They call employment a lagging indicator but that assumes there is something in the pipe that will stimulate hiring and I don't see it. You can hold and buy this market down but I prefer to take some off the table and buy back in after the dip. Never said you should buy and hold. There's frequently an opportunity to make informed choices and to move investments around to maximize the likelihood of reaching your goal. It's not an uncommon thought that the market is overpriced. I've heard this several times on the business shows. The problem is that if you get out now, you might miss a lot of the upside. On the other hand, if you don't get out, at some point you'll hit the downside. That's why dollar cost averaging works. You don't have to worry too much about when to get in or get out. Averages are your friend. Part of a wise investment strategy is having some decent amount of liquidity. I don't know what the recommendation is these days, but I, for example, have about a year in liquid savings. It's part of my strategy. I can dip into it for various reasons, one of which might be trying to time a dip in the market. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Oct 15, 5:07*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says.... H the K wrote: On 10/15/09 12:44 PM, wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:59 am, H the *wrote: On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote: On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John * *wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote: obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months... With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a lot better than he is. meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going? ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing. you've never worked on an engineering project, have you? \ Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields. As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds. In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this: Published:23-July-2009 By WCIN Staff Writer The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA. exactly. *they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc etc... the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky.. the rest of us know they have to be built Morons of the right is so...right. We certainly have a plethora of them in here...John Herring being a prime example. But...his buddy Scott Ingersoll is even dumber. You mutts seem to run in packs. Harry is real brave under his desk. He had his chance to meet up and get his beating this summer with me and loogie, but like most little bitches, he ran for the hills. Seems all of these far lefties are cowardly little bitches with nothing to add to much of anything... You sound like a paper tiger... I sincerely doubt you'd have the guts to say anything like this to my face, and I'm not much of a match physically. It sure is easy to lie when you don't have to face someone. You must be quite the manly man with women. -- Nom=de=Plume You have 'The Freak' act figured out. Wish I had saved the correspondence when the Basskisser was threatening to visit him at his moldy workshop. The Freak had lined up every able bodied man, woman and child to put between himself and the Basskisser. It was priceless...a great idea for a comedy skit.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don, you forgot to add TOP BASS DOG...who now fights fights for the little FAGGOT SCOTTY INGERSOLL. Top Bass Dickhead took our arguement to another NG in an attempt to do something....I dont know what. Subjecting innocent folks to this arguement shows less class than I'm exhibiting. But, my behaviour here is for a good cause...to expose SCOTTY INGERSOLL for what he IS....a COWARD FAGGOT COCKSUCKER. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:56:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:12:21 -0400, somebody wrote: There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. That's a great idea, don' know why I didn't think of it first. Let's put together a group of like minded entrepreneurs, invest some money, and start a private not-for-profit company to do this. That's exactly how Blue Cross\Blue Shield started, and some of them are still non-profit. Oh wait, what's our incentive? How do we get compensated for our time, effort and risk? The devil is always in the details. Marx and Lenin founded an economic system with no incentives for risk and effort. We all know how that turned out. |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:56:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:12:21 -0400, somebody wrote: There's no reason why truly not-for-profit companies couldn't handle the job. That's a great idea, don' know why I didn't think of it first. Let's put together a group of like minded entrepreneurs, invest some money, and start a private not-for-profit company to do this. That's exactly how Blue Cross\Blue Shield started, and some of them are still non-profit. Oh wait, what's our incentive? How do we get compensated for our time, effort and risk? The devil is always in the details. Marx and Lenin founded an economic system with no incentives for risk and effort. We all know how that turned out. I know of a non profit that was aquired, merged, what ever you want to call it. the $25 mil in non profitable assets was partially distributed amongst the high level management. I suppose the IRS cannot claim any of that money. |
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... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ |
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... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ Sigh... we are all Harry (not hairy) I guess. lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 10/16/09 3:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ Sigh... we are all Harry (not hairy) I guess. lol I'm...ubiquitous -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. |
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On 10/16/09 3:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ Sigh... we are all Harry (not hairy) I guess. lol I'm...ubiquitous No! you are an asshole. |
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:10:10 -0400, Jim wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. As NDP has pointed out, there are two Jims. One is thoughtful, kind and a gentleman. This Jim is the cocksucker. |
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:45:08 -0400, H the K wrote: Dow closes above 10,000 for 1st time in a year By SARA LEPRO and TIM PARADIS, AP Business Writers NEW YORK – When the Dow Jones industrial average first passed 10,000, traders tossed commemorative caps and uncorked champagne. This time around, the feeling was more like relief. The best-known barometer of the stock market entered five-figure territory again Wednesday, the most visible sign yet that investors believe the economy is clawing its way back from the worst downturn since the Depression. The milestone caps a stunning 53 percent comeback for the Dow since early March, when stocks were at their lowest levels in more than a decade. "It's almost like an announcement that the bear market is over," said Arthur Hogan, chief market analyst at Jefferies & Co. in Boston. "That is an eye-opener — 'Hey, you know what, things must be getting better because the Dow is over 10,000.'" Cheers went up briefly when the Dow eclipsed the milestone in the early afternoon, during a daylong rally driven by encouraging earnings reports from Intel Corp. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. The average closed at 10,015.86, up 144.80 points. It was the first time the Dow had touched 10,000 since October 2008, that time on the way down. It might be a good time to pick a "get out alive" price and place your sell orders. If you do that you will really lose money. We stuck it out and have recovered a good chunk of money lost we lost in the pelosi plunge and obama slide. Once you are out, you will probably not get back in until you have lost a ton of money as the market moves beyond the point you got out. We considered getting out when the market was in the pelosi plunge and obama slide. If we had wimped out then we would have hesitated to get back in until the until we had lost big time. The plunge and slide is blamed on President Bush, but he did not refuse to support the Constitutional mandate of providing a stable money supply as pelosi did when she killed the first bailout bill on September 28, 2008. In the next 12 days the market lost 30% of its value (from about 11500 to 8500) Check the facts yourself at http://www.google.com/finance?cid=983582 and don't listen to the liberal press. If you check the history of the markets obama is the third president in over 100 years that the market responded negatively when they were elected. The market lost another 30% of its value from Election day November 4 2008 until March 10, 2009 when Congress gave obama his first defeat. (From 9000 to about 6500) Those three presidents were Woodrow Wilson who had to change his mind on the war with Europe, Jim Carter who still does not understand what is going on, and obama who still thinks he is a community rabble rouser. Check the facts yourself at http://www.google.com/finance?cid=983582 and don't listen to the liberal press. It is the next bubble. The banks are the one leading the charge, and that is because the Fed's are pumping huge amounts of money in to them. Put some stops losses and you may not lose all the money you lost on the last ride down. This is a trading market, not an investment market. The unemployment is still growing, people are not spending, the dollar is dropping in value, is the driving large increase in commodities prices. |
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... H the K wrote: On 10/16/09 3:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ Sigh... we are all Harry (not hairy) I guess. lol I'm...ubiquitous No! you are an asshole. Well, that's funny. Sorry Harry. lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Jim" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. I looked up "boats" in Outlook. I'm not hanging out here. I post and read here. Are you old? Hard to tell, as mostly you sound like a child. BTW, thanks! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"jps" wrote in message
... On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:10:10 -0400, Jim wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. As NDP has pointed out, there are two Jims. One is thoughtful, kind and a gentleman. This Jim is the cocksucker. TMI -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 10/16/09 6:18 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... H the K wrote: On 10/16/09 3:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ Sigh... we are all Harry (not hairy) I guess. lol I'm...ubiquitous No! you are an asshole. Well, that's funny. Sorry Harry. lol flajim can't even pronounce ubiquitous, let alone define it. He'll have to look it up. Asshole is a much easier word for him, because he sees one in the mirror whenever he shaves. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7 |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. I looked up "boats" in Outlook. I'm not hanging out here. I post and read here. Are you old? Hard to tell, as mostly you sound like a child. BTW, thanks! Old enough to be your daddy. Hmmm. Maybe i am. |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/16/09 6:18 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... H the K wrote: On 10/16/09 3:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. -- Nom=de=Plume ~~ Snerk ~~ Sigh... we are all Harry (not hairy) I guess. lol I'm...ubiquitous No! you are an asshole. Well, that's funny. Sorry Harry. lol flajim can't even pronounce ubiquitous, let alone define it. He'll have to look it up. Asshole is a much easier word for him, because he sees one in the mirror whenever he shaves. Yup! that fine eukashun you got is reely payin offf now. I see it in every post you make. Keep up the good work ****head. |
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"Jim" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. I looked up "boats" in Outlook. I'm not hanging out here. I post and read here. Are you old? Hard to tell, as mostly you sound like a child. BTW, thanks! Old enough to be your daddy. Hmmm. Maybe i am. Doubtful. My daddy is pretty smart. lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:47:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Jim" wrote in message .. . nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. I looked up "boats" in Outlook. I'm not hanging out here. I post and read here. Are you old? Hard to tell, as mostly you sound like a child. BTW, thanks! Old enough to be your daddy. Hmmm. Maybe i am. Doubtful. My daddy is pretty smart. lol Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaahaaaa! Zing! |
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"jps" wrote in message
... On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:47:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message . .. nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:11:26 -0400, wrote: Even if my stock picking sucks and there is still a lot of up side, I would still say the smart money would want their profit in after tax money at the current tax rate, not what we will be paying when congress wakes up and figures out we are broke. If you pull everything out of the market then you're at risk with a weak dollar/inflation scenario. It's not an easy decision right now but strategic metals and oil should do OK unless we have a global depression. Cash is king in a depression of course, but which currency and how to invest in it, is an interesting problem. I wouldn't put all my chickens in the basket of metals and oil. Some is fine. Be quiet and listen to Wayne, Sweetie. He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps, but it's really clear that you don't. Pretty good come back for a ditsy broad. Tell us again why you chose this newsgroup to drop in on. Your social life must really suck if you choose to hang out with a bunch of cranky old farts like us. I looked up "boats" in Outlook. I'm not hanging out here. I post and read here. Are you old? Hard to tell, as mostly you sound like a child. BTW, thanks! Old enough to be your daddy. Hmmm. Maybe i am. Doubtful. My daddy is pretty smart. lol Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaahaaaa! Zing! It was pure instinct. No offense intended! lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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