Cash for clunkers...
 

....what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Cash for clunkers...
 

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:38:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.

And I think part of it may be backlash from folks who don't like the
way the bailout was done. At least Ford worked its *own* problems.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Cash for clunkers...
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.


I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961. V8.
Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a small
family could live in the engine compartment (along with the engine). I
watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood during a short
rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have another car for more
civilized travel.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cash for clunkers...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:38:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.

And I think part of it may be backlash from folks who don't like the
way the bailout was done. At least Ford worked its *own* problems.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


The dip in GM sales was expected after the C for C program ended. GM has a
lot of problems, certainly one of which is customer confidence.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cash for clunkers...
 

On 10/2/09 1:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:38:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400,
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.

And I think part of it may be backlash from folks who don't like the
way the bailout was done. At least Ford worked its *own* problems.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


The dip in GM sales was expected after the C for C program ended. GM has a
lot of problems, certainly one of which is customer confidence.



Part of the reason for the dip in sales has to do with the lack of
inventory on dealer lots. The clunkers program cleared out a lot of
older new car inventory, and with the factories pretty slack over the
summer, they're still not much in the way of new cars on the lots.

Simple-minded fools, like most of the righties here, have problems
thinking outside of the box or in terms other than 1 or 0.




--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Cash for clunkers...
 

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.


I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961. V8.
Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a small
family could live in the engine compartment (along with the engine). I
watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood during a short
rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have another car for more
civilized travel.

Yup, we had a 78 ford wrecker. I used to sit inside the hood area to
work on it, otherwise I couldn't reach most of the engine...

Cash for clunkers...
 

wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:52:58 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/2/09 1:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:38:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400,
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used
cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.

And I think part of it may be backlash from folks who don't like the
way the bailout was done. At least Ford worked its *own* problems.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


The dip in GM sales was expected after the C for C program ended. GM has
a
lot of problems, certainly one of which is customer confidence.



Part of the reason for the dip in sales has to do with the lack of
inventory on dealer lots. The clunkers program cleared out a lot of
older new car inventory, and with the factories pretty slack over the
summer, they're still not much in the way of new cars on the lots.

Simple-minded fools, like most of the righties here, have problems
thinking outside of the box or in terms other than 1 or 0.

I don't have numbers but they said a lot of the cars that got sold on
the clunker deal were unsold 2008s (two years old in car years)



I don't see a problem with that... it would be nice if the auto industry
rebounded, but I'm doubtful.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cash for clunkers...
 

"tiny" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.


I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961.
V8.
Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a small
family could live in the engine compartment (along with the engine). I
watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood during a
short
rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have another car for
more
civilized travel.

Yup, we had a 78 ford wrecker. I used to sit inside the hood area to
work on it, otherwise I couldn't reach most of the engine...


You couldn't catch me dead climbing inside an engine compartment with the
engine going. I thought he was crazy. What if he got caught on something?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cash for clunkers...
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.
But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb

I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.


I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961. V8.
Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a small
family could live in the engine compartment (along with the engine). I
watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood during a short
rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have another car for more
civilized travel.


Nice! Got a picture?

Cash for clunkers...
 

"The D" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.
But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb

I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.


I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961.
V8. Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a
small family could live in the engine compartment (along with the
engine). I watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood
during a short rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have
another car for more civilized travel.


Nice! Got a picture?


Somewhere... I'll see if I can find one. It's pretty beat up, but it works
fine.


--
Nom=de=Plume

Cash for clunkers...
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"The D" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.
But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb
I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.

I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961.
V8. Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a
small family could live in the engine compartment (along with the
engine). I watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood
during a short rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have
another car for more civilized travel.

Nice! Got a picture?


Somewhere... I'll see if I can find one. It's pretty beat up, but it works
fine.



For a 1961 work truck you can't expect a show car (truck).

Cash for clunkers...
 

In article ,
says...

"tiny" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:50 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...what a great idea.

"Cash for Clunkers, which paid buyers up to $4,500 for their used cars
when they purchased more fuel efficient models, spurred strong sales
from late July through the end of the program on Aug. 24.

But it likely pulled ahead sales that might have taken place in
September and left dealers with limited supplies of vehicles to sell
coming into the fall."

Year to year comparisons show Ford down 5%, GM down 45% and Chrysler
down 42%.

Must be that Fords are just a much better auto than GM or Chrysler.

http://tinyurl.com/yaamseb


I do believe Fords are better (at least the truck/SUV lines) but the
real fear for a lot of people was buying a car from a bankrupt
company.


I think they are... I have a truly ancient F-100, I think it's a 1961.
V8.
Runs great. I haul all kinds of stuff on a weekly basis. I think a small
family could live in the engine compartment (along with the engine). I
watched a friend actually climb in and mostly close the hood during a
short
rain sprinkle. He was tuning it up for me. Yes, I have another car for
more
civilized travel.

Yup, we had a 78 ford wrecker. I used to sit inside the hood area to
work on it, otherwise I couldn't reach most of the engine...


You couldn't catch me dead climbing inside an engine compartment with the
engine going. I thought he was crazy. What if he got caught on something?

Never said it was running, however it prpbably was at times but there is
plenty of room there anyway if it were.

Cash for clunkers...
 

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:46:35 -0400, tiny
wrote:

Yup, we had a 78 ford wrecker. I used to sit inside the hood area to
work on it, otherwise I couldn't reach most of the engine...


You couldn't catch me dead climbing inside an engine compartment with the
engine going. I thought he was crazy. What if he got caught on something?

Never said it was running, however it prpbably was at times but there is
plenty of room there anyway if it were.

You I used to climb into the engine compartment of a lot of those old
boats. It was the best way to get to some of that stuff (like the
distributor adjustment on Chevy small blocks).. They had a fan shroud
that kept you away from that but you still had to stay away from the
hot manifold.

Yeah, they will really burn your sneakers:)