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[email protected] October 2nd 09 03:08 AM

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That is impressive.


Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. They do not have the fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. Clearly, this guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced on
these particular rocks. Notice the white chalk on some of the blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.


Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the vertical
wall is unnatural. I would suspect that very few people would be able
to develop that type of skill.


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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. *In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. *They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.


That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. *It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.


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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....


I think that was their first collaboration. *It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.


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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful


Do you read Science Fiction, Miss De Plume? *I devoured science
fiction novels when I was young. *I haven't read a science fiction
novel in years, though. *The genre became too...commercial and
gratuitously salacious, as far as I was concerned. *The last good
novel I've read, recently, was actually a humorous work by Leornard
Wibberley, "The Mouse that Roared." *Dune was not a nascently
intellecutal book of the type you might find written by Stanislaw Lem,
Ursula Le Guin, or Phillip K. Dick. *But, Herbert wove a wonderful
tapestry of story, future, distant shores, culture, intrigue and
memorable characters that spawned at least two movies. *I thought the
work was incomparably imaginative. *I have read other works since,
though.

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Yes, I do remember the "Mote in God's Eye". About a race that could
not practice birth control so their civilization kept ending in
extreme overpopulation. I forget how the problem was solved.


I was a teenager when I read the book, and I remember so little about
it. What you described evoked memories of the alien race in that
book. I came across a copy of the book a couple of years ago at a
yard sale. I purchased it to read again, and I started to do that
last winter. For some reason I never got beyond the first few pages.
(I've got too many books going at the same time right now.) All of
this has me reminsicing about favorite books, though. The "High
Crusade" by Poul Anderson was a lighthearted read, and Le Guin's "The
Left Hand of Darkness" was a thought-provoking work. Then there was
"The Forever War"...

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nom=de=plume October 2nd 09 03:18 AM

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On Oct 1, 11:56 am, wrote:
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On Oct 1, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 1, 9:38 am, wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4

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That is impressive.

Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. They do not have the
fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. Clearly, this
guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced
on
these particular rocks. Notice the white chalk on some of the
blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.

Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a
lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the
vertical
wall is unnatural. I would suspect that very few people would be
able
to develop that type of skill.

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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.

That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.

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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....

I think that was their first collaboration. It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.

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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful


Do you read Science Fiction, Miss De Plume? I devoured science
fiction novels when I was young. I haven't read a science fiction
novel in years, though. The genre became too...commercial and
gratuitously salacious, as far as I was concerned. The last good
novel I've read, recently, was actually a humorous work by Leornard
Wibberley, "The Mouse that Roared." Dune was not a nascently
intellecutal book of the type you might find written by Stanislaw Lem,
Ursula Le Guin, or Phillip K. Dick. But, Herbert wove a wonderful
tapestry of story, future, distant shores, culture, intrigue and
memorable characters that spawned at least two movies. I thought the
work was incomparably imaginative. I have read other works since,
though.



Em is fine. I really like, no let me say it differently, I'm a huge fan of
Usula Le Guin (favorite story is The Darkness Box) and Phillip K. Dick (Do
android dream of electric sheep aka Blade Runner). I also love Azimov (I
Robot and the Foundation novels - except the last one), Heinlein (Stranger
in a strange land... I still re-read it), and Bradbury (too many to list).
Heinlein is actual exceptional. I saw the movie version of The Mouse that
Roared when I was a child and thought it was so much fun, but I never like
The Wizard of Oz. I didn't like the Dorothy charcter and the monkeys scared
me when my mom took me to see it.

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nom=de=plume October 2nd 09 03:21 AM

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On Oct 1, 9:00 pm, wrote:
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On Oct 1, 11:56 am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:32:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:
On Oct 1, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 1, 9:38 am, wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4


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That is impressive.


Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. They do not have the
fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. Clearly, this
guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced
on
these particular rocks. Notice the white chalk on some of the
blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.


Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a
lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the
vertical
wall is unnatural. I would suspect that very few people would be
able
to develop that type of skill.


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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.


That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The
Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.


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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....


I think that was their first collaboration. It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.


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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful


Do you read Science Fiction, Miss De Plume? I devoured science
fiction novels when I was young. I haven't read a science fiction
novel in years, though. The genre became too...commercial and
gratuitously salacious, as far as I was concerned. The last good
novel I've read, recently, was actually a humorous work by Leornard
Wibberley, "The Mouse that Roared." Dune was not a nascently
intellecutal book of the type you might find written by Stanislaw Lem,
Ursula Le Guin, or Phillip K. Dick. But, Herbert wove a wonderful
tapestry of story, future, distant shores, culture, intrigue and
memorable characters that spawned at least two movies. I thought the
work was incomparably imaginative. I have read other works since,
though.

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Yes, I do remember the "Mote in God's Eye". About a race that could
not practice birth control so their civilization kept ending in
extreme overpopulation. I forget how the problem was solved.



According to wikipedia, it ends on a "dark" note with no cure.

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[email protected] October 2nd 09 04:31 AM

I'll Stick to Boating, Thank-you...
 
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:18:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:28:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.

That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.

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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....

I think that was their first collaboration. It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.

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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful


Do you read Science Fiction, Miss De Plume? I devoured science
fiction novels when I was young. I haven't read a science fiction
novel in years, though. The genre became too...commercial and
gratuitously salacious, as far as I was concerned. The last good
novel I've read, recently, was actually a humorous work by Leornard
Wibberley, "The Mouse that Roared." Dune was not a nascently
intellecutal book of the type you might find written by Stanislaw Lem,
Ursula Le Guin, or Phillip K. Dick. But, Herbert wove a wonderful
tapestry of story, future, distant shores, culture, intrigue and
memorable characters that spawned at least two movies. I thought the
work was incomparably imaginative. I have read other works since,
though.



Em is fine. I really like, no let me say it differently, I'm a huge fan of
Usula Le Guin (favorite story is The Darkness Box) and Phillip K. Dick (Do
android dream of electric sheep aka Blade Runner). I also love Azimov (I
Robot and the Foundation novels - except the last one), Heinlein (Stranger
in a strange land... I still re-read it), and Bradbury (too many to list).
Heinlein is actual exceptional. I saw the movie version of The Mouse that
Roared when I was a child and thought it was so much fun, but I never like
The Wizard of Oz. I didn't like the Dorothy charcter and the monkeys scared
me when my mom took me to see it.


"Em" seems so CSS, Em. But it works for me. Ursula Le Guin did write
the Earth Sea Trilogy, too, which I enjoyed. Those books were more in
the Fantasy or Heroic Fantasy genre. I thought her "Left Hand" more
masterly. To be honest, I haven't read "The Darkness Box." I'll add
that to my list (the interminable list). I read a lot of Asimov when
I was in my teens, including "I Robot," and I would have to reread the
books to discuss them adequately. I do remember that Asimov was
markedly proud of his three laws of robotics. And I'd read "Stranger
in a Strange Land," too. I read a lot of Heinlein back then
(including "The Rolling Stones," the possible genesis for Gerrold's
"The Trouble with Tribbles"). (In fact one of my research papers in
college used references from Heinlein's testimony before Congress
concerning NASA spinoff technology.) The one heralded author that I
never really explored much as I probably should have was Arthur C.
Clarke. I had read a couple of his books, I know. I don't remember
the titles, though. Bradbury was an intriguing author, also, I'd have
to agree. I don't think he ever forgave Michael Moore for 'borrowing'
the title from his "Fahrenheit 451."

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[email protected] October 2nd 09 04:44 AM

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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful

Do you read Science Fiction, Miss De Plume? I devoured science
fiction novels when I was young. I haven't read a science fiction
novel in years, though. The genre became too...commercial and
gratuitously salacious, as far as I was concerned. The last good
novel I've read, recently, was actually a humorous work by Leornard
Wibberley, "The Mouse that Roared." Dune was not a nascently
intellecutal book of the type you might find written by Stanislaw Lem,
Ursula Le Guin, or Phillip K. Dick. But, Herbert wove a wonderful
tapestry of story, future, distant shores, culture, intrigue and
memorable characters that spawned at least two movies. I thought the
work was incomparably imaginative. I have read other works since,
though.



Em is fine. I really like, no let me say it differently, I'm a huge fan of
Usula Le Guin (favorite story is The Darkness Box) and Phillip K. Dick (Do
android dream of electric sheep aka Blade Runner). I also love Azimov (I
Robot and the Foundation novels - except the last one), Heinlein (Stranger
in a strange land... I still re-read it), and Bradbury (too many to list).
Heinlein is actual exceptional. I saw the movie version of The Mouse that
Roared when I was a child and thought it was so much fun, but I never like
The Wizard of Oz. I didn't like the Dorothy charcter and the monkeys scared
me when my mom took me to see it.


"Em" seems so CSS, Em. But it works for me.


I need to apologize if my remark here seemed flippant, Em. I realized
after some reflection that it could be taken that way. I go be JR,
btw.

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CalifBill October 2nd 09 04:52 AM

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I like this one..

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/vol...sandspecs.html

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You will be one of few who go for the Volt. Over priced, 40 mile range
and not a hybrid. Need to run the motor 3 hours to recharge and does not
motivate the car. $40k for an in town car. Cheaper to hire a taxi.
Some idiot is pressing this debacle.


Well, I'd rather have a Prius. But I'm fine for now.

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A Prius uses more natural resources over it's lifespan than a lot of
econoboxes, but at least it goes more than 40 miles at a time. If they made
the volt a hybrid, and especially if they stuffed in a small diesel, would
be a lot better vehicle. A log more useable also.



Tom Francis - SWSports October 2nd 09 05:33 AM

I'll Stick to Boating, Thank-you...
 
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:10:05 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Oct 1, 11:56*am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:32:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Oct 1, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 1, 9:38*am, wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4

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That is impressive.

Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. *They do not have the fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. *Clearly, this guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced on
these particular rocks. *Notice the white chalk on some of the blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.

Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the vertical
wall is unnatural. *I would suspect that very few people would be able
to develop that type of skill.

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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.


That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.


Good lord.

It was written by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

Tom Francis - SWSports October 2nd 09 05:38 AM

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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:44:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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On Oct 1, 11:56 am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:32:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Oct 1, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 1, 9:38 am, wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4

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That is impressive.

Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. They do not have the fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. Clearly, this guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced on
these particular rocks. Notice the white chalk on some of the blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.

Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the vertical
wall is unnatural. I would suspect that very few people would be able
to develop that type of skill.

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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.

That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.

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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....


I think that was their first collaboration. It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.


It was. Others are "Footfall", "Gripping Hand", "Oath of Fealty".

"Dune'" was unreadable and a total waste of time much like "Battle
Field Earth" and "Dyanetics".

Tom Francis - SWSports October 2nd 09 05:45 AM

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On Oct 1, 11:56 am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:32:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



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On Oct 1, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 1, 9:38 am, wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4

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That is impressive.

Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. They do not have the fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. Clearly, this guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced on
these particular rocks. Notice the white chalk on some of the blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.

Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the vertical
wall is unnatural. I would suspect that very few people would be able
to develop that type of skill.

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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.

That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.

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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....


I think that was their first collaboration. It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.

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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful


The David Lynch version was fairly good, the second version by John
Harrison sucked pond scum and there is soon to be a third version by
David Berg because Hollywood seems to have run out of original ideas
for movies.

"Dune" was a pseudo-intellectual's dream book. Thematically, it was a
freakin' mess, but because it was so bad, everybody thought it was
good. And of course it spawned a whole series of pre/post quels if
you will all written by his relatives trying to keep the franchise
alive.

Hebert is L. Ron Hubbard, only nobody spawned a religion off of
"Dune".

Oh wait - yes they did. The Church of Global Warming, Saint Al Gore
Liturgy.

Tom Francis - SWSports October 2nd 09 05:45 AM

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On Oct 1, 11:56 am, wrote:
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On Oct 1, 9:38 am, wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4


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That is impressive.


Watch animals who are good at climbing and you eventually get the
impression that their minds are wired diff. They do not have the fear
of falling we have although logic says they should. Clearly, this guy
has little fear of falling but I wonder how much he has practiced on
these particular rocks. Notice the white chalk on some of the blocks
indicating a lot of use by climbers.


Whether it's familiarity with the terrain, a natural talent, or a lot
of practice, I would have to concede that the backflip on the vertical
wall is unnatural. I would suspect that very few people would be able
to develop that type of skill.


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We should genetically engineer people to have grasping feet. *In fact,
I imagine that generations from now people who live in space will
develop such. *They will have little use for shoes and will need such
feet to keep from drifting around while they use their hands.


That reminds me of a science fiction novel I read years ago, "The Mote
in God's Eye," by David Niven and Jerry Pournelli. *It's been years
since I've read it; but, it seems to me that that in the novel the
human race encounters another life form that was similar to what
you've described.


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I vaguely remember reading this in college... can't remember it though.
Maybe I should get it from the library....


I think that was their first collaboration. *It was my favorite Sci-fi
novel until I read "Dune" by Frank Herbert.


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I didn't like that book... the movie was awful


Do you read Science Fiction, Miss De Plume? *I devoured science
fiction novels when I was young. *I haven't read a science fiction
novel in years, though. *The genre became too...commercial and
gratuitously salacious, as far as I was concerned. *The last good
novel I've read, recently, was actually a humorous work by Leornard
Wibberley, "The Mouse that Roared." *Dune was not a nascently
intellecutal book of the type you might find written by Stanislaw Lem,
Ursula Le Guin, or Phillip K. Dick. *But, Herbert wove a wonderful
tapestry of story, future, distant shores, culture, intrigue and
memorable characters that spawned at least two movies. *I thought the
work was incomparably imaginative. *I have read other works since,
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Yes, I do remember the "Mote in God's Eye". About a race that could
not practice birth control so their civilization kept ending in
extreme overpopulation. I forget how the problem was solved.


War.


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