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Jim - September 12th 03 11:57 PM

Seems to me......
 

"Jim -" wrote in message
news:%Mr8b.426340$o%2.193578@sccrnsc02...
It seems to me that things would be about the same, perhaps even worse right now even
if Al Gore were POTUS.

Yet the Dems/Libs continue to blame GWB for everything under the sun, including the
recession of 1999-2003 and the fact that bin Laden has not been caught yet.

So how would things have been different if Al Gore were in office? Exactly what

would
he have done differently to make things better or worse? Do you really think that

9-11
would not have happened under his watch, and if so, why? Would the economy have
rebounded in 2001 under his leadership, and if so, why?

On the reverse, what did GWB do to precipitate the 9-11 attack? What did he do to
cause the 1999-2003 recession?

This is your time to explain how things....time to speak up or shut up.

Operators are standing by.


Silence...as expected.


Gould 0738 September 13th 03 12:11 AM

Seems to me......
 
Silence...as expected.


Stuff the hook a little deeper into the bait.

Nobody *knows* how or what Al Gore would have done. Why argue about it?

Did we know, in advance, what GWB was going to do? How he would respond to
challenges that nobody had even imagined yet? That's what you're asking people
to advance on Gore's behalf, and whatever anybody conjectures will be turned
into fodder for an argument. We can't agree on what's actually going on in the
world right this minute. How could we possibly agree on what would have, could
have, might have, should have? No wonder most people are taking a pass.
Changing your screen name again might help -for a while.

Good technique though: (shift the focus almost anywhere else except where it
belongs. The guy who lost the last election is as good a stalking horse as
any).

Whether or not Gore would have done a miserable job as POTUS has no bearing on
the responsibility of the guy currently in office to perform capably. "What
Gore would have done....." is not relevant.


Mark Browne September 13th 03 12:16 AM

Seems to me......
 
Where is Gary H when you need him!!??

"Jim -" wrote in message
t...

"Jim -" wrote in message
news:%Mr8b.426340$o%2.193578@sccrnsc02...
It seems to me that things would be about the same, perhaps even worse

right now even
if Al Gore were POTUS.

Yet the Dems/Libs continue to blame GWB for everything under the sun,

including the
recession of 1999-2003 and the fact that bin Laden has not been caught

yet.

So how would things have been different if Al Gore were in office?

Exactly what
would
he have done differently to make things better or worse? Do you really

think that
9-11
would not have happened under his watch, and if so, why? Would the

economy have
rebounded in 2001 under his leadership, and if so, why?

On the reverse, what did GWB do to precipitate the 9-11 attack? What

did he do to
cause the 1999-2003 recession?

This is your time to explain how things....time to speak up or shut up.

Operators are standing by.


Silence...as expected.




Jim - September 13th 03 12:17 AM

Seems to me......
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Silence...as expected.


Stuff the hook a little deeper into the bait.

Nobody *knows* how or what Al Gore would have done. Why argue about it?



Duh, my point exactly. So why place the blame on GBW unless you can definitively state
what things Al Gore would have done differently.

For all we know things would have been much worse under his *leadership*.


Harry Krause September 13th 03 12:27 AM

Seems to me......
 
Jim - wrote:

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Silence...as expected.


Stuff the hook a little deeper into the bait.

Nobody *knows* how or what Al Gore would have done. Why argue about it?



Duh, my point exactly. So why place the blame on GBW unless you can definitively state
what things Al Gore would have done differently.



There is a theory around that states 9-11, while planned for some time,
was actually launched as payback on Bush for at least two reasons:

1. He is the son of Bush I, who "besmirched" Saudi Arabia by placing
U.S. troops on "holy" Saudi soil, and,

2. Bush II stated he was not going to "engage" in the Israeli/so-called
Palestinian peace talks and, in fact, he did nothing for more than a
year into his reign to get engaged. This absolutely infuriated many in
the Arab/Moslem world, who were hoping a U.S. president would continued
to press concessions upon the Israelis as the price for peace.

You may not like this theory, but there may well be some merit to it.

There also is some conjecture Bush knew 9-11 was coming, and did
virtually nothing to stop it.

Bush certainly turned the events into political hay for his failing
administration.


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Joe September 13th 03 12:38 AM

Seems to me......
 

Maybe it was the unions who staged 9-11.
Sure they had to sacrifice a few hundred police and firefighters, but then
they tend to vote conservative anyway.



Jim - September 13th 03 01:33 AM

Seems to me......
 

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Ok, I'll play, but first...

You make the post at 6:29pm and then at 6:57pm you say "Silence...as
expected." (At least that's
how my newsreader shows it.) Why not wait a day or two, or at least an
hour, before you get all
huffy and stuffy?



Guilty of being impatient.

Not guilty of being huffy and stuffy.

Peace brother. I only asked some legitimate questions.


Calif Bill September 13th 03 02:09 AM

Seems to me......
 
Out fishing on Monkey Business?

"Mark Browne" wrote in message
news:xts8b.426508$o%2.193901@sccrnsc02...
Where is Gary H when you need him!!??

"Jim -" wrote in message
t...

"Jim -" wrote in message
news:%Mr8b.426340$o%2.193578@sccrnsc02...
It seems to me that things would be about the same, perhaps even worse

right now even
if Al Gore were POTUS.

Yet the Dems/Libs continue to blame GWB for everything under the sun,

including the
recession of 1999-2003 and the fact that bin Laden has not been caught

yet.

So how would things have been different if Al Gore were in office?

Exactly what
would
he have done differently to make things better or worse? Do you

really
think that
9-11
would not have happened under his watch, and if so, why? Would the

economy have
rebounded in 2001 under his leadership, and if so, why?

On the reverse, what did GWB do to precipitate the 9-11 attack? What

did he do to
cause the 1999-2003 recession?

This is your time to explain how things....time to speak up or shut

up.

Operators are standing by.


Silence...as expected.






Calif Bill September 13th 03 02:14 AM

Seems to me......
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Duh, my point exactly. So why place the blame on GBW unless you can
definitively state
what things Al Gore would have done differently.


That standard would exempt all presidents from criticism for all time.

I dislike GWB as much as anybody, but in spite of your trolled assertion,

as a
liberal I don't "blame" him diorectly for 9-11 or the recession. I do hold

him
responsible for the decisions he has made so far and the consequences of

those
decisions......that's fair.

The standard should be: How do Bush's decisions compare to decisions that

would
have predictably different outcomes? Not: How do Bush's decisions compare

to
the decisions that somebody else was never called upon to make.

For all we know things would have been much worse under his *leadership*.


Jim, we may well agree on this. Gore was no prize. The only thing I though

he
had going for him was a higher IQ than Bush.
Neither candidate was an obvious choice.
I don't hold Bush responsible for merely doing a better job than Gore

*might*
have done (in his worst moments?)........I hold Bush responsible for
effectively leading, or failing to lead, the country. That wouldn't change

if
he ran *unopposed*

That's like some woman telling her husband "Gee, dear, I'm glad you only

beat
me once a week. That other guy I thought about marrying? I bet if I

married him
he'd beat me up every two or three days."

The standard is based on individual, effective, responsible performance-

not
just being slightly (debatedly) better than some other guy who didn't get

the
job.



The majority of the Left Wing Trash posts do blame GMB for causing 9/11
(look at Harry's Post above). Blame GMB for every other thing related to
the economy, even though it was dying before the election and AGores actions
started a huge slide. Investors do not like uncertainty. As to AGore
having a higher IQ. I nearly ruined my keyboard. AGore probably does not
score higher than 110-115. He is not very smart, and no personality to
boot. And the worse part is we would have a rather unintelligent
micromanager. Sure sign of failure.
Bill



John Gaquin September 13th 03 02:36 AM

Seems to me......
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

There also is some conjecture Bush knew 9-11 was coming,



Not among those with more than a two-digit IQ.




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