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FishWisher[_2_] September 29th 09 09:36 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dale
www.FishWisher.com

nom=de=plume September 29th 09 10:34 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
"FishWisher" wrote in message
...
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dale
www.FishWisher.com



Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Jack[_3_] September 29th 09 11:17 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Sep 29, 4:36*pm, FishWisher wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dalewww.FishWisher.com


From my understanding, desalinization plants take a progidous amount
of energy to run. I don't remember California have much of that to
spare.

Scott Dickson September 29th 09 11:24 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Sep 29, 4:36*pm, FishWisher wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dalewww.FishWisher.com


It cant be as bad a Coca-Cola in India. There, Coke struck a deal with
the Indian Govt. to have all the water they need. Now, the poor get
physically beaten away from Water sources.
Now, if we could only beat away Faggots like SCOTT INGERSOLL...we'd
be better off.

CalifBill September 30th 09 02:21 AM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 4:36 pm, FishWisher wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dalewww.FishWisher.com


From my understanding, desalinization plants take a progidous amount
of energy to run. I don't remember California have much of that to
spare.

_____________________

80% of California water goes to AG. They pay from $6.42 to 9.50 an acre
foot. They can resell the water. One of the biggest growers of subsidized
cotton just sold 1500 acre feet to the town of Mojave for some estimate
$5500 an acre foot. We would have plenty of water to grow food if we were
not using it to grow alfalfa and cotton and rice in the desert. Resnick a
billionaire Beverly Hills mogul is one of the biggest almond and pistaschio
suppliers in California with Paramont Farms.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/08/...rial-colonial/
A little about the Resnicks.

And about the $5500
http://onthepublicrecord.wordpress.c...better-before/



nom=de=plume September 30th 09 02:52 AM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.


We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg



I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a nice
shower every morning.

--
Nom=de=Plume



JohnH[_5_] September 30th 09 05:45 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:02:38 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.


We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg

Speaking of water problems...looks as though global warming might take
another hit.

http://tinyurl.com/yejpuzl

Think nuclear.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

JohnH[_5_] September 30th 09 05:46 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.


We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg



I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a nice
shower every morning.


Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

nom=de=plume September 30th 09 06:23 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.

We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg



I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.


Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.



I have no problem with nice showers.


--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 30th 09 06:26 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:02:38 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.


We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg

Speaking of water problems...looks as though global warming might take
another hit.

http://tinyurl.com/yejpuzl

Think nuclear.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.



Think more than one technology to solve a problem.


--
Nom=de=Plume



Jim September 30th 09 06:38 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg


I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a nice
shower every morning.


Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.


It's that old "I'm doing OK, you take care of the problem", that is so
common among liberals. Doesn't it make you sick that these people are so
selfish?

Jim September 30th 09 06:40 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg

I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.

Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.



I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie

Jack[_3_] September 30th 09 07:36 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Sep 30, 2:18*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:36:13 -0700 (PDT), FishWisher

wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply.


The Feds CREATED your water supply in 1933 out of a semi-arid desert.
Be happy with what the environment will support and don't feel
entitled to the impossible. You make this sound trivial, but it is
not. Recreational and commercial fishing in your state is based around
salmon. The delta smelt is the salmon's main source of food. Kill that
and you kill the state's fishing and fish-tourism revenues.

The problem isn't regulations, it is the lack thereof. You have too
many people vying for a very limited amount of resources. GROWTH is
what needs to be regulated.

We have the same thing going on in the East... in Georgia. Upstream
they build and build and build and build, then want to keep all of the
water flowing out of Georgia into Alabama and Florida for themselves,
instead of addressing their own lack of control on growth.
--


Not just in GA... North Carolina is doing the same thing to SC on the
Catawba River. They want to pull water out of the river that should
be flowing on down into SC. Charlotte wants to sphon off the water to
support it's own growth.


Don White September 30th 09 07:59 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg

I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.



I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie


Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better) status.



Jim September 30th 09 08:01 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie


Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better) status.


Don't give up Donny. Just keep telling yourself that you wear the pants
in the family.

nom=de=plume September 30th 09 08:16 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg

I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.



I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie



I'm not your babe. Can't help it if you don't like showering.


--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 30th 09 08:17 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg

I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie


Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.


I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate, smart,
and clean woman. lol

--
Nom=de=Plume



Jim September 30th 09 08:28 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the tech
told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have a
nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie

Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.


I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate, smart,
and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.

JohnH[_5_] September 30th 09 09:26 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:18:18 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:36:13 -0700 (PDT), FishWisher
wrote:

Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply.


The Feds CREATED your water supply in 1933 out of a semi-arid desert.
Be happy with what the environment will support and don't feel
entitled to the impossible. You make this sound trivial, but it is
not. Recreational and commercial fishing in your state is based around
salmon. The delta smelt is the salmon's main source of food. Kill that
and you kill the state's fishing and fish-tourism revenues.

The problem isn't regulations, it is the lack thereof. You have too
many people vying for a very limited amount of resources. GROWTH is
what needs to be regulated.

We have the same thing going on in the East... in Georgia. Upstream
they build and build and build and build, then want to keep all of the
water flowing out of Georgia into Alabama and Florida for themselves,
instead of addressing their own lack of control on growth.


Maybe we really *should* do something about the millions of illegal
aliens. They probably impact the water supply also.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Don White September 30th 09 10:06 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't
care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and
send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the
tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have
a nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie
Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.


I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate,
smart, and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.


So..now she needs you to make dates for her??
How sexist can you get? I hope your wife is reading these exchanges......
or at least Richard.
Someone needs to introduce you to a bit of reality...2009 style.



JohnH[_5_] September 30th 09 10:11 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:06:52 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
. ..
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't
care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and
send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the
tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have
a nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie
Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.

I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate,
smart, and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.


So..now she needs you to make dates for her??
How sexist can you get? I hope your wife is reading these exchanges......
or at least Richard.
Someone needs to introduce you to a bit of reality...2009 style.


Donnie, why don't you stop pretending to be so friggin' stupid?
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

nom=de=plume September 30th 09 10:23 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't
care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and
send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the
tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have
a nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie
Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.


I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate,
smart, and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.



Thanks but no thanks.


--
Nom=de=Plume



The D[_3_] October 1st 09 01:20 AM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't
care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and
send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the
tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have
a nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.
I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie
Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.
I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate,
smart, and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.


So..now she needs you to make dates for her??
How sexist can you get? I hope your wife is reading these exchanges......
or at least Richard.
Someone needs to introduce you to a bit of reality...2009 style.



There is no reality in your house, dummy. Most people don't board 30+
year old children *and* fetch their beer *and* finance their car loans.

Carry on...

The D[_3_] October 1st 09 01:21 AM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:06:52 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't
care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and
send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the
tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have
a nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.
I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie
Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.
I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate,
smart, and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.

So..now she needs you to make dates for her??
How sexist can you get? I hope your wife is reading these exchanges......
or at least Richard.
Someone needs to introduce you to a bit of reality...2009 style.


Donnie, why don't you stop pretending to be so friggin' stupid?


Give it up. You are wrong on this assumption, John.

Halloooooo October 1st 09 02:55 AM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:34:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
We drove through the central valley and I was thinking the same
thing.
They are still having that water war.
The people in the valley resent the water they send to LA
When you get up in the mountains the people resent the water they
have
to send to the valley.
When you get to Tahoe City where the flood gates are, they don't
care
at all. They use all the water they want, keep the lake full and
send
anything extra down the Truckee River

The only place in California I saw a 6 gallon a minute shower head
was
Tahoe and we had TWO of them. (Squaw Creek Resort)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...strictions.jpg
I figured out a way to unrestrict the new shower head. Actually, I
called
the company that makes it, explained what I needed to do, and the
tech told
me how to drill out a piece. Off to ACE for the drill and now I have
a nice
shower every morning.
Glad to see you're doing the liberal thing -- conservation.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.
I have no problem with nice showers.


As long as it's not other people wasting water. We got your number now,
Babe. Take your position to Krause's rear and enjoy the aroma, Sweetie
Man..you really get twisted when a woman bests you.
Relax...it's the new world...they've earned their equal (or better)
status.
I've seen this before. Some men just can't deal with an articulate,
smart, and clean woman. lol

If you are all those things, have I got the guy for you.


So..now she needs you to make dates for her??
How sexist can you get? I hope your wife is reading these exchanges......
or at least Richard.
Someone needs to introduce you to a bit of reality...2009 style.


Pfffttt. Why don't you go rat him out rat bitch? What a dumb ****..

Don White October 1st 09 05:26 AM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 

"Halloooooo" wrote in message
...
Pfffttt. Why don't you go rat him out rat bitch? What a dumb ****..



Hey...it's the pony tailed girlieman back out from his favourite closet.
Did you spend all your daddies money yet?



Halloooooo October 1st 09 02:48 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
Don White wrote:
"Halloooooo" wrote in message
...
Pfffttt. Why don't you go rat him out rat bitch? What a dumb ****..



Hey...it's the pony tailed girlieman back out from his favourite closet.
Did you spend all your daddies money yet?


I really wish you would come out from under your desk and stop hiding
like harry.. I would love the opportunity to hear either one of you rat
bitches say it to my face.. You wouldn't have to worry about health care
anymore, that's for sure...

H the K[_2_] October 1st 09 02:54 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On 10/1/09 9:48 AM, Halloooooo wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Halloooooo" wrote in message
...
Pfffttt. Why don't you go rat him out rat bitch? What a dumb ****..



Hey...it's the pony tailed girlieman back out from his favourite closet.
Did you spend all your daddies money yet?

I really wish you would come out from under your desk and stop hiding
like harry.. I would love the opportunity to hear either one of you rat
bitches say it to my face.. You wouldn't have to worry about health care
anymore, that's for sure...


I'm hiding? How, exactly, am I hiding? How is Don hiding? If this is
Scotty Ingersoll, the sawed-off little twerp, you know where we are.
Show up on my doorstep and I'll be delighted to say anything to your
face you'd like. Of course, I'd have to stoop way down to say it to your
face...or put you on a step stool...



--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

JohnH[_5_] October 1st 09 08:29 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:21:29 -0400, The D wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:06:52 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


So..now she needs you to make dates for her??
How sexist can you get? I hope your wife is reading these exchanges......
or at least Richard.
Someone needs to introduce you to a bit of reality...2009 style.


Donnie, why don't you stop pretending to be so friggin' stupid?


Give it up. You are wrong on this assumption, John.


I can't give it up. I'd have to change the way I think of Canadians.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

JohnH[_5_] October 1st 09 08:32 PM

California fish vs farmers: This is the land of NUTS!
 
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:38:28 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:45:04 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

Speaking of water problems...looks as though global warming might take
another hit.

http://tinyurl.com/yejpuzl

Think nuclear.
--


They need a lot of water to cool a nuke plant too.
I have said many times, we will run out of water long before we run
out of oil.
The west isn't the only place with water problems.
The central plains of the US is running out of water.
Most of the water they pull out of the Ogallala Aquifer is really
"fossil water" that took thousands of years to accumulate there and is
not being replenished. When it's gone, it's gone.


Think salt water.

http://www.sce.com/NR/rdonlyres/BDD6...ngs_prod00.jpg

Don't need it for drinking and growing food.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


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