Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:
How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people.
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 8:57*am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people.
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

"In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress
to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is
adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in
years of debates about detention policies."

Idiot.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 9:07*am, Jack wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:57*am, wf3h wrote:





On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people.
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

"In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress
to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is
adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in
years of debates about detention policies."

Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

guess the moron didn't read the article:

"Instead, the administration will continue to hold the detainees
without bringing them to trial based on the power it says it has under
the Congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11,
2001, authorizing the president to use force against forces of Al
Qaeda and the Taliban.

But President Obama’s advisers are not embracing the more disputed
Bush contention that the president has inherent power under the
Constitution to detain terrorism suspects indefinitely regardless of
Congress.

The Justice Department said in a statement Wednesday night that “the
administration would rely on authority already provided by Congress”
under the use of force resolution. “The administration is not
currently seeking additional authorization,” the statement said."


so the article says congress gave the president the power to hold
detainees...the president does not himself, apart from a congressional
mandate, have the power to hold detaineess...

the right wing is trying to have it both ways...arguing the president
CAN hold people without congressional approval AND saying obama's
arguing this.

which, of course, is a lie.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 9:07*am, Jack wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:57*am, wf3h wrote:





On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people.
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

"In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress
to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is
adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in
years of debates about detention policies."

Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is known as a distinction without a difference. If Obama doesn’t
see the need to get Congressional authorization for continued
indefinite detention, then it means that Obama believes he has that
power under the Constitution from which he derives all authority.
Obama may not want to say it out loud, but his actions speak volumes.
Obama has adopted the Bush position in its entirety.

Obama is a master of this type of prevarication. For the Pinheads,
this might help you - a definition: to speak falsely or misleadingly;
deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie.

What is getting more and more amusing is that the Left is becoming
more and more marginlised - just look at the responses to all this
recent activity by yours truly. The Pinheads are literally talking to
themselves. Facts don't matter, truth doesn't matter, logic/reason/
verity just don't matter.

Normally, I would expect at least one of these Pinheads admit that
Obama has some problems keeping his lines/stories and promises
straight. They have drunk the Kool-Aid however, swallowed the arsenic
and can't purge themselves of their closely held beliefs.

Stay tuned for a major block buster report about AARP, it's insurance
plan, Federal support and the health care bill.

This is going to be a MAJOR issue in the coming weeks. Following the
money - following the money.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 9:14*am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 24, 9:07*am, Jack wrote:





On Sep 24, 8:57*am, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people.
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

"In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress
to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is
adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in
years of debates about detention policies."

Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

guess the moron didn't read the article:

"Instead, the administration will continue to hold the detainees
without bringing them to trial based on the power it says it has under
the Congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11,
2001, authorizing the president to use force against forces of Al
Qaeda and the Taliban.


You're confused. Here's what your boy promised:

""He will reject the Military Commissions Act, which allowed the U.S.
to circumvent Geneva Conventions in the handling of detainees."

But now he's reversed that. Here's what the ACLU has to say about
that:

Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties
Union, said Obama was taking the wrong approach by trying to retain
the commissions.

"As unfortunate as it is to inherit that legacy, to accommodate those
policies is essentially to ratify them," Romero said. "President Obama
would do well to remember his own infamous words during his
presidential campaign: you can't put lipstick on a pig."

Another BO lie.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 10:06*am, Jack wrote:
On Sep 24, 9:14*am, wf3h wrote:





On Sep 24, 9:07*am, Jack wrote:

On Sep 24, 8:57*am, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people.
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

"In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress
to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is
adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in
years of debates about detention policies."

Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

guess the moron didn't read the article:

"Instead, the administration will continue to hold the detainees
without bringing them to trial based on the power it says it has under
the Congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11,
2001, authorizing the president to use force against forces of Al
Qaeda and the Taliban.

You're confused. *Here's what your boy promised:

""He will reject the Military Commissions Act, which allowed the U.S.
to circumvent Geneva Conventions in the handling of detainees."

which, of course, has nothing at all to do with the article, or what
bush said, or what the right wing said obama said

this is called 'goalpost moving'. he got his ass shredded in this
argument so now abandons it and tries something else

typical right wing idiot.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 10:17*am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 24, 10:06*am, Jack wrote:





On Sep 24, 9:14*am, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:07*am, Jack wrote:

On Sep 24, 8:57*am, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 24, 8:43*am, Toots Sweet wrote:

How about it Pinheads - like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader.

well...no. the right wing liar (a redundancy) forgets to tell us that
obama said he'd obey CONGRESSIONAL mandates...which is what this was

bush said he didn't need congressional oversight to detain people..
obama says he does.

so the right wing liar strikes again.

"In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress
to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is
adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in
years of debates about detention policies."

Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

guess the moron didn't read the article:

"Instead, the administration will continue to hold the detainees
without bringing them to trial based on the power it says it has under
the Congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11,
2001, authorizing the president to use force against forces of Al
Qaeda and the Taliban.

You're confused. *Here's what your boy promised:

""He will reject the Military Commissions Act, which allowed the U.S.
to circumvent Geneva Conventions in the handling of detainees."

which, of course, has nothing at all to do with the article, or what
bush said, or what the right wing said obama said

this is called 'goalpost moving'. he got his ass shredded in this
argument so now abandons it and tries something else

typical right wing idiot.

You evidently never even understood the original post. Let me refresh
you:

"Another campaign promise thrown under the bus. You Lefties must be
getting mighty tired of all this whiffing on your important issues by
Dear Leader."

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Now put down the Sterno,
back away, and sober up.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 11:13*am, H the K wrote:
On 9/24/09 11:11 AM, wf3h wrote:





On Sep 24, 11:02 am, *wrote:
*wrote in message

nor the right-wing zealots who think he can do no right. On the other
hand,
you and Harry seem to be stuck in a time warp of the 1960's where tearing
down our country was a rite of passage for the beat generation.
says the guy who thinks we have a socialist president who's destroying
america. and proof of that is that everything is OK because wall
street is in control
such is right wing logic

There you go again, pretending to read minds. I never wrote anything that
would lead a rational person to believe I thought anything of that sort.

Obama supports Bush detention policy
 

On Sep 24, 1:05*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:14:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

What a difference a (D) makes. (sorry Dinah)

When it was an (R) congress and the president was (R) Gitmo was
blatantly unconstitutional. Now it is fine as long as congress agrees.

congressional oversight has always been an issue, as richard nixon
found out. *and it's SLIGHTLY more complicated than just having
'congress agree'. but that's a first step

If it is truly unconstitutional, congress can't approve it either.

which was not the topic of the article


You folks do have to get your story straight.

you just have to learn to read...and to stop lying. the topic was
whether or not obama continued bush's policies. he didn't.

so now you move the goalposts...