The ol' automotive millstone
 

I've always hated cars considering owning one an infringement on my
freedom to do as I pleased. When you have to make payments, you are a
slave to said machine. Consequently, I have always driven truly cheap
machines and proudly kept them waaaaaaay beyond reason. Of course, as
I have gotten older, being economically successful has made it easier
for me to drop $800 on a repair as I did today on my "new" Nissan 4wd
truck for routine maintenance.
Unfortunately, my son did not inherit my attitude toward cars. He
really thinks he needs to drive a cool car to be cool (sometimes I
wonder if he's my kid). So, when he saved about three thou, he
searched Craigslist for older Mustangs and found one of indeterminate
mileage about 150 miles away and went and bought it against my advice.
YES IT is cool. V8, more power than I am used to. That stick shift
is tight and 1st gear goes up to 30 mph, a true suicide machine, if it
would run more'n 5 miles between breakdowns. It is a '95 model GT
that looks good and sounds BAD and runs like crap.
He spent his entire reserve fund getting the wiring harness replaced
as soon as he got it home. Now, he's learning mechanics the hard way,
out of necessity. I showed him how to read an auto wiring schematic
when his stereo kept blowing fuses and killing all his lights, YES, a
300 watt stereo installed in series with a 10 amp fuse. Then he
learned about old plug wiring causing rough running and then how to
use a vacuum gauge (a great experience). Today, it was an idler
pulley going bad.
He is discouraged but I told him that is simply the nature of cars.
He did not buy it for reliable transport, he bought it cuz its just so
cool. Told him not to worry about the reliable transport issue, he
can always bum rides from me and eventually, he'll get all the likely
stuff replaced and will have a reasonable time before something else
happs. When I think about it, I never learned automotive stuff till
I simply had to and I suspect he will be the same. Necessity can be a
great teacher.

The ol' automotive millstone
 

wrote in message
...

Kids are just like that. I went through a succession of new "go fast"
cars ending with a 69 Corvette. My next car was a new 72 Jeep that I
had 5 years 170k miles and the one after that was a used, free 71
Gremlin that just landed in my front yard. I ended up putting in a
clutch, driving that 2 years, just because it wouldn't break and I
sold it for $500.
I never bought a new car again.


My first car was a 1965 Chevy Impala Wagon. No, it wasn't knew... sheesh. It
was a really surfer machine, ran great and we could put all our crap in it.
My father hated it. Thought is was junk, but it only cost me $800.

--
Nom=de=Plume

The ol' automotive millstone
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:36:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..

Kids are just like that. I went through a succession of new "go fast"
cars ending with a 69 Corvette. My next car was a new 72 Jeep that I
had 5 years 170k miles and the one after that was a used, free 71
Gremlin that just landed in my front yard. I ended up putting in a
clutch, driving that 2 years, just because it wouldn't break and I
sold it for $500.
I never bought a new car again.


My first car was a 1965 Chevy Impala Wagon. No, it wasn't knew... sheesh.
It
was a really surfer machine, ran great and we could put all our crap in
it.
My father hated it. Thought is was junk, but it only cost me $800.

I was young, working for IBM and making, what I thought, was a lot of
money. I had to have a new car ... or so I thought. I ended up taking
a bath on all of them except the Jeep and that one I just recovered my
investment by driving it longer than the payments lasted.
The Gremlin was a real eye opener. My pecker didn't get smaller, my
bank account got bigger and the girls I liked didn't really care what
I was driving as long as we went somewhere fun. I could afford fun
places.


Fortunately, I've never ridden in a Gremlin. lol

My college beau had a BMW, which was just fine with me.

--
Nom=de=Plume

The ol' automotive millstone
 

On Sep 22, 6:59*am, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:11:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:36:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

Kids are just like that. I went through a succession of new "go fast"
cars ending with a 69 Corvette. My next car was a new 72 Jeep that I
had 5 years 170k miles and the one after that was a used, free 71
Gremlin that just landed in my front yard. I ended up putting in a
clutch, driving that 2 years, just because it wouldn't break and I
sold it for $500.
I never bought a new car again.

My first car was a 1965 Chevy Impala Wagon. No, it wasn't knew... sheesh.
It
was a really surfer machine, ran great and we could put all our crap in
it.
My father hated it. Thought is was junk, but it only cost me $800.

I was young, working for IBM and making, what I thought, was a lot of
money. I had to have a new car ... or so I thought. I ended up taking
a bath on all of them except the Jeep and that one I just recovered my
investment by driving it longer than the payments lasted.
The Gremlin was a real eye opener. My pecker didn't get smaller, my
bank account got bigger and the girls I liked didn't really care what
I was driving as long as we went somewhere fun. I could afford fun
places.

Fortunately, I've never ridden in a Gremlin. lol

It actually wasn's a bad car but was ugly. It had a 25 gallon tank and
got about 22 MPG so you could go a long way between fill ups. That was
handy back in the "gas lines" days. It was also my first "hatchback"
with a rear seat that folded flat. You can haul a lot of stuff in one
of those. Since then I car shop with a 10' stick of PVC pipe. If it
won't fit I don't buy it.
My Prelude will carry a stick of *PVC pipe with the trunk closed.

My fantasy in cars is techno-simplicity. I'd like to buy an old
(early 60s) 6 cyl truck and put radial tires and electronic ignition
on it and be happy. I could fix anything easily and it would not cost
anything except gas. I wouldnt even get new paint, keep it rusty so
nobody wants to break into it.

The ol' automotive millstone
 

Frogwatch wrote:

My fantasy in cars is techno-simplicity. I'd like to buy an old
(early 60s) 6 cyl truck and put radial tires and electronic ignition
on it and be happy. I could fix anything easily and it would not cost
anything except gas. I wouldnt even get new paint, keep it rusty so
nobody wants to break into it.


How is that different from everything else you own now?


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

The ol' automotive millstone
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I've always hated cars considering owning one an infringement on my
freedom to do as I pleased. When you have to make payments, you are a
slave to said machine. Consequently, I have always driven truly cheap
machines and proudly kept them waaaaaaay beyond reason. Of course, as
I have gotten older, being economically successful has made it easier
for me to drop $800 on a repair as I did today on my "new" Nissan 4wd
truck for routine maintenance.
Unfortunately, my son did not inherit my attitude toward cars. He
really thinks he needs to drive a cool car to be cool (sometimes I
wonder if he's my kid). So, when he saved about three thou, he
searched Craigslist for older Mustangs and found one of indeterminate
mileage about 150 miles away and went and bought it against my advice.
YES IT is cool. V8, more power than I am used to. That stick shift
is tight and 1st gear goes up to 30 mph, a true suicide machine, if it
would run more'n 5 miles between breakdowns. It is a '95 model GT
that looks good and sounds BAD and runs like crap.
He spent his entire reserve fund getting the wiring harness replaced
as soon as he got it home. Now, he's learning mechanics the hard way,
out of necessity. I showed him how to read an auto wiring schematic
when his stereo kept blowing fuses and killing all his lights, YES, a
300 watt stereo installed in series with a 10 amp fuse. Then he
learned about old plug wiring causing rough running and then how to
use a vacuum gauge (a great experience). Today, it was an idler
pulley going bad.
He is discouraged but I told him that is simply the nature of cars.
He did not buy it for reliable transport, he bought it cuz its just so
cool. Told him not to worry about the reliable transport issue, he
can always bum rides from me and eventually, he'll get all the likely
stuff replaced and will have a reasonable time before something else
happs. When I think about it, I never learned automotive stuff till
I simply had to and I suspect he will be the same. Necessity can be a
great teacher.


Kids...what are ya gonna do with 'em?
The 95 Voyager minivan we had as a 2nd vehicle ran fine at 138k kilometwrs
and it's recent transmission job.
The thing wasen't even rusted because I had it undercoated every year since
new at Krown.
My son could have had it all he wanted for free...but he had to have a Dodge
Charger. Now I have to squeeze the $150.00 bi-weekly payments out of him.
well...sometimes anyway.

The ol' automotive millstone
 

On Sep 22, 10:14*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:59*am, wrote:





On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:11:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"

wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:36:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

Kids are just like that. I went through a succession of new "go fast"
cars ending with a 69 Corvette. My next car was a new 72 Jeep that I
had 5 years 170k miles and the one after that was a used, free 71
Gremlin that just landed in my front yard. I ended up putting in a
clutch, driving that 2 years, just because it wouldn't break and I
sold it for $500.
I never bought a new car again.

My first car was a 1965 Chevy Impala Wagon. No, it wasn't knew... sheesh.
It
was a really surfer machine, ran great and we could put all our crap in
it.
My father hated it. Thought is was junk, but it only cost me $800.

I was young, working for IBM and making, what I thought, was a lot of
money. I had to have a new car ... or so I thought. I ended up taking
a bath on all of them except the Jeep and that one I just recovered my
investment by driving it longer than the payments lasted.
The Gremlin was a real eye opener. My pecker didn't get smaller, my
bank account got bigger and the girls I liked didn't really care what
I was driving as long as we went somewhere fun. I could afford fun
places.

Fortunately, I've never ridden in a Gremlin. lol

It actually wasn's a bad car but was ugly. It had a 25 gallon tank and
got about 22 MPG so you could go a long way between fill ups. That was
handy back in the "gas lines" days. It was also my first "hatchback"
with a rear seat that folded flat. You can haul a lot of stuff in one
of those. Since then I car shop with a 10' stick of PVC pipe. If it
won't fit I don't buy it.
My Prelude will carry a stick of *PVC pipe with the trunk closed.

My fantasy in cars is techno-simplicity. *I'd like to buy an old
(early 60s) 6 cyl truck and put radial tires and electronic ignition
on it and be happy. *I could fix anything easily and it would not cost
anything except gas. *I wouldnt even get new paint, keep it rusty so
nobody wants to break into it.

Only problem with that is the lack of safety. If you're involved in
an accident, you're toast. No padded dashes, solid steering column,
no door beams, no crumple zones... you get the point.

The ol' automotive millstone
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:11:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:36:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...

Kids are just like that. I went through a succession of new "go fast"
cars ending with a 69 Corvette. My next car was a new 72 Jeep that I
had 5 years 170k miles and the one after that was a used, free 71
Gremlin that just landed in my front yard. I ended up putting in a
clutch, driving that 2 years, just because it wouldn't break and I
sold it for $500.
I never bought a new car again.


My first car was a 1965 Chevy Impala Wagon. No, it wasn't knew...
sheesh.
It
was a really surfer machine, ran great and we could put all our crap in
it.
My father hated it. Thought is was junk, but it only cost me $800.

I was young, working for IBM and making, what I thought, was a lot of
money. I had to have a new car ... or so I thought. I ended up taking
a bath on all of them except the Jeep and that one I just recovered my
investment by driving it longer than the payments lasted.
The Gremlin was a real eye opener. My pecker didn't get smaller, my
bank account got bigger and the girls I liked didn't really care what
I was driving as long as we went somewhere fun. I could afford fun
places.


Fortunately, I've never ridden in a Gremlin. lol

It actually wasn's a bad car but was ugly. It had a 25 gallon tank and
got about 22 MPG so you could go a long way between fill ups. That was
handy back in the "gas lines" days. It was also my first "hatchback"
with a rear seat that folded flat. You can haul a lot of stuff in one
of those. Since then I car shop with a 10' stick of PVC pipe. If it
won't fit I don't buy it.
My Prelude will carry a stick of PVC pipe with the trunk closed.


Yeah, well... ugly is a big factor for me. lol Reminds me of the AMC
Pacer... I wouldn't get in that one either.

--
Nom=de=Plume

The ol' automotive millstone
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Sep 22, 10:14 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:59 am, wrote:





On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:11:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"

wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:36:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

Kids are just like that. I went through a succession of new "go
fast"
cars ending with a 69 Corvette. My next car was a new 72 Jeep that
I
had 5 years 170k miles and the one after that was a used, free 71
Gremlin that just landed in my front yard. I ended up putting in a
clutch, driving that 2 years, just because it wouldn't break and I
sold it for $500.
I never bought a new car again.

My first car was a 1965 Chevy Impala Wagon. No, it wasn't knew...
sheesh.
It
was a really surfer machine, ran great and we could put all our crap
in
it.
My father hated it. Thought is was junk, but it only cost me $800.

I was young, working for IBM and making, what I thought, was a lot of
money. I had to have a new car ... or so I thought. I ended up taking
a bath on all of them except the Jeep and that one I just recovered
my
investment by driving it longer than the payments lasted.
The Gremlin was a real eye opener. My pecker didn't get smaller, my
bank account got bigger and the girls I liked didn't really care what
I was driving as long as we went somewhere fun. I could afford fun
places.

Fortunately, I've never ridden in a Gremlin. lol

It actually wasn's a bad car but was ugly. It had a 25 gallon tank and
got about 22 MPG so you could go a long way between fill ups. That was
handy back in the "gas lines" days. It was also my first "hatchback"
with a rear seat that folded flat. You can haul a lot of stuff in one
of those. Since then I car shop with a 10' stick of PVC pipe. If it
won't fit I don't buy it.
My Prelude will carry a stick of PVC pipe with the trunk closed.

My fantasy in cars is techno-simplicity. I'd like to buy an old
(early 60s) 6 cyl truck and put radial tires and electronic ignition
on it and be happy. I could fix anything easily and it would not cost
anything except gas. I wouldnt even get new paint, keep it rusty so
nobody wants to break into it.

Only problem with that is the lack of safety. If you're involved in
an accident, you're toast. No padded dashes, solid steering column,
no door beams, no crumple zones... you get the point.


Just hose off the dashboard and sell it to someone else!

--
Nom=de=Plume

The ol' automotive millstone
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I've always hated cars considering owning one an infringement on my
freedom to do as I pleased. When you have to make payments, you are a
slave to said machine. Consequently, I have always driven truly cheap
machines and proudly kept them waaaaaaay beyond reason. Of course, as
I have gotten older, being economically successful has made it easier
for me to drop $800 on a repair as I did today on my "new" Nissan 4wd
truck for routine maintenance.
Unfortunately, my son did not inherit my attitude toward cars. He
really thinks he needs to drive a cool car to be cool (sometimes I
wonder if he's my kid). So, when he saved about three thou, he
searched Craigslist for older Mustangs and found one of indeterminate
mileage about 150 miles away and went and bought it against my advice.
YES IT is cool. V8, more power than I am used to. That stick shift
is tight and 1st gear goes up to 30 mph, a true suicide machine, if it
would run more'n 5 miles between breakdowns. It is a '95 model GT
that looks good and sounds BAD and runs like crap.
He spent his entire reserve fund getting the wiring harness replaced
as soon as he got it home. Now, he's learning mechanics the hard way,
out of necessity. I showed him how to read an auto wiring schematic
when his stereo kept blowing fuses and killing all his lights, YES, a
300 watt stereo installed in series with a 10 amp fuse. Then he
learned about old plug wiring causing rough running and then how to
use a vacuum gauge (a great experience). Today, it was an idler
pulley going bad.
He is discouraged but I told him that is simply the nature of cars.
He did not buy it for reliable transport, he bought it cuz its just so
cool. Told him not to worry about the reliable transport issue, he
can always bum rides from me and eventually, he'll get all the likely
stuff replaced and will have a reasonable time before something else
happs. When I think about it, I never learned automotive stuff till
I simply had to and I suspect he will be the same. Necessity can be a
great teacher.


Kids...what are ya gonna do with 'em?
The 95 Voyager minivan we had as a 2nd vehicle ran fine at 138k
*kilometwrs* and it's recent transmission job.
The thing *wasen't* even rusted because I had it undercoated every year
since new at Krown.
My son could have had it all he wanted for free...but he had to have a
Dodge Charger. Now I have to squeeze the $150.00 bi-weekly payments out of
him.
well...sometimes anyway.

ooops...
make that *kilometers* and *wasn't*

The ol' automotive millstone
 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:45:30 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:




Kids...what are ya gonna do with 'em?
The 95 Voyager minivan we had as a 2nd vehicle ran fine at 138k kilometwrs
and it's recent transmission job.
The thing wasen't even rusted because I had it undercoated every year since
new at Krown.
My son could have had it all he wanted for free...but he had to have a Dodge
Charger. Now I have to squeeze the $150.00 bi-weekly payments out of him.
well...sometimes anyway.


I'm very proud of the financial responsibility demonstrated by my two
daughters. They've both done a great job of training their husbands
also.

I'd hate to have to continuously ping my kids to be personally
responsible. It must be a royal pain in the butt.
--

John H

The ol' automotive millstone
 

Don White wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I've always hated cars considering owning one an infringement on my
freedom to do as I pleased. When you have to make payments, you are a
slave to said machine. Consequently, I have always driven truly cheap
machines and proudly kept them waaaaaaay beyond reason. Of course, as
I have gotten older, being economically successful has made it easier
for me to drop $800 on a repair as I did today on my "new" Nissan 4wd
truck for routine maintenance.
Unfortunately, my son did not inherit my attitude toward cars. He
really thinks he needs to drive a cool car to be cool (sometimes I
wonder if he's my kid). So, when he saved about three thou, he
searched Craigslist for older Mustangs and found one of indeterminate
mileage about 150 miles away and went and bought it against my advice.
YES IT is cool. V8, more power than I am used to. That stick shift
is tight and 1st gear goes up to 30 mph, a true suicide machine, if it
would run more'n 5 miles between breakdowns. It is a '95 model GT
that looks good and sounds BAD and runs like crap.
He spent his entire reserve fund getting the wiring harness replaced
as soon as he got it home. Now, he's learning mechanics the hard way,
out of necessity. I showed him how to read an auto wiring schematic
when his stereo kept blowing fuses and killing all his lights, YES, a
300 watt stereo installed in series with a 10 amp fuse. Then he
learned about old plug wiring causing rough running and then how to
use a vacuum gauge (a great experience). Today, it was an idler
pulley going bad.
He is discouraged but I told him that is simply the nature of cars.
He did not buy it for reliable transport, he bought it cuz its just so
cool. Told him not to worry about the reliable transport issue, he
can always bum rides from me and eventually, he'll get all the likely
stuff replaced and will have a reasonable time before something else
happs. When I think about it, I never learned automotive stuff till
I simply had to and I suspect he will be the same. Necessity can be a
great teacher.


Kids...what are ya gonna do with 'em?
The 95 Voyager minivan we had as a 2nd vehicle ran fine at 138k kilometwrs
and it's recent transmission job.
The thing wasen't even rusted because I had it undercoated every year since
new at Krown.
My son could have had it all he wanted for free...but he had to have a Dodge
Charger. Now I have to squeeze the $150.00 bi-weekly payments out of him.
well...sometimes anyway.



I've never had a car "undercoated". If it was necessary, why wouldn't
the factory do it? Undercoating a car every year? After over ten years
you must have had 500# of that crap glued to the bottom of your car. I
bet they loved to see you pull in every year!

Why are you financing your lazy son, dummy? Didn't you see that coming?

The ol' automotive millstone
 

Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I've always hated cars considering owning one an infringement on my
freedom to do as I pleased. When you have to make payments, you are a
slave to said machine. Consequently, I have always driven truly cheap
machines and proudly kept them waaaaaaay beyond reason. Of course, as
I have gotten older, being economically successful has made it easier
for me to drop $800 on a repair as I did today on my "new" Nissan 4wd
truck for routine maintenance.
Unfortunately, my son did not inherit my attitude toward cars. He
really thinks he needs to drive a cool car to be cool (sometimes I
wonder if he's my kid). So, when he saved about three thou, he
searched Craigslist for older Mustangs and found one of indeterminate
mileage about 150 miles away and went and bought it against my advice.
YES IT is cool. V8, more power than I am used to. That stick shift
is tight and 1st gear goes up to 30 mph, a true suicide machine, if it
would run more'n 5 miles between breakdowns. It is a '95 model GT
that looks good and sounds BAD and runs like crap.
He spent his entire reserve fund getting the wiring harness replaced
as soon as he got it home. Now, he's learning mechanics the hard way,
out of necessity. I showed him how to read an auto wiring schematic
when his stereo kept blowing fuses and killing all his lights, YES, a
300 watt stereo installed in series with a 10 amp fuse. Then he
learned about old plug wiring causing rough running and then how to
use a vacuum gauge (a great experience). Today, it was an idler
pulley going bad.
He is discouraged but I told him that is simply the nature of cars.
He did not buy it for reliable transport, he bought it cuz its just so
cool. Told him not to worry about the reliable transport issue, he
can always bum rides from me and eventually, he'll get all the likely
stuff replaced and will have a reasonable time before something else
happs. When I think about it, I never learned automotive stuff till
I simply had to and I suspect he will be the same. Necessity can be a
great teacher.

Kids...what are ya gonna do with 'em?
The 95 Voyager minivan we had as a 2nd vehicle ran fine at 138k
*kilometwrs* and it's recent transmission job.
The thing *wasen't* even rusted because I had it undercoated every year
since new at Krown.
My son could have had it all he wanted for free...but he had to have a
Dodge Charger. Now I have to squeeze the $150.00 bi-weekly payments out of
him.
well...sometimes anyway.

ooops...
make that *kilometers* and *wasn't*



Try harder the first time, dummy. Have the smart kid in the
neighborhood turn your spell checker on for you.

The ol' automotive millstone
 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:45:30 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I've always hated cars considering owning one an infringement on my
freedom to do as I pleased. When you have to make payments, you are a
slave to said machine. Consequently, I have always driven truly cheap
machines and proudly kept them waaaaaaay beyond reason. Of course, as
I have gotten older, being economically successful has made it easier
for me to drop $800 on a repair as I did today on my "new" Nissan 4wd
truck for routine maintenance.
Unfortunately, my son did not inherit my attitude toward cars. He
really thinks he needs to drive a cool car to be cool (sometimes I
wonder if he's my kid). So, when he saved about three thou, he
searched Craigslist for older Mustangs and found one of indeterminate
mileage about 150 miles away and went and bought it against my advice.
YES IT is cool. V8, more power than I am used to. That stick shift
is tight and 1st gear goes up to 30 mph, a true suicide machine, if it
would run more'n 5 miles between breakdowns. It is a '95 model GT
that looks good and sounds BAD and runs like crap.
He spent his entire reserve fund getting the wiring harness replaced
as soon as he got it home. Now, he's learning mechanics the hard way,
out of necessity. I showed him how to read an auto wiring schematic
when his stereo kept blowing fuses and killing all his lights, YES, a
300 watt stereo installed in series with a 10 amp fuse. Then he
learned about old plug wiring causing rough running and then how to
use a vacuum gauge (a great experience). Today, it was an idler
pulley going bad.
He is discouraged but I told him that is simply the nature of cars.
He did not buy it for reliable transport, he bought it cuz its just so
cool. Told him not to worry about the reliable transport issue, he
can always bum rides from me and eventually, he'll get all the likely
stuff replaced and will have a reasonable time before something else
happs. When I think about it, I never learned automotive stuff till
I simply had to and I suspect he will be the same. Necessity can be a
great teacher.


Kids...what are ya gonna do with 'em?
The 95 Voyager minivan we had as a 2nd vehicle ran fine at 138k kilometwrs
and it's recent transmission job.
The thing wasen't even rusted because I had it undercoated every year since
new at Krown.
My son could have had it all he wanted for free...but he had to have a Dodge
Charger. Now I have to squeeze the $150.00 bi-weekly payments out of him.
well...sometimes anyway.


Most engines require the first service at 100 000 miles, a set of
spark plugs. Our lincoln developed a leaking valve guide at 175 000
miles. If it hadn't had a check engine light it might have gone
another 25 000 or more. We change the glycol and break fluid every two
years whether it needs it or not.

Casady

The ol' automotive millstone
 

JR North wrote:
Spelling flames are a sign of immaturity. Grow up, get a girlfriend, and
wash your right hand.
JR


D wrote:


Try harder the first time, dummy. Have the smart kid in the
neighborhood turn your spell checker on for you.


Are you new? Dumb Don is the KING of spelling "flames".