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H the K[_2_] September 14th 09 09:51 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
62 Companies Refusing to Advertise with Beck Cost Fox

Nearly $600k Per Week



OAKLAND, Calif. The advertising boycott of Glenn Beck has cost the
controversial host over half of his estimated advertising revenue since
it was launched by ColorOfChange.org a month ago. This according to data
analyzed from industry sources.



Estimated advertising revenue [the total amount of advertising money
being spent during a block of commercial time for a program] was
collected on a week-by-week basis for a period of two months. According
to the data collected, the amount of money spent by national advertisers
on Becks program per week was at its highest at approximately
$1,060,000, for the week ending August 2, 2009. ColorOfChange.org
launched their campaign at the end of that week and since then, 62
advertisers have distanced themselves from Beck. Data collected for the
week ending September 6, 2009 shows Becks estimated ad revenue at
$492,000, equal to a loss of $568,000.


Fox News Channel has consistently claimed they havent lost revenue as
advertisers abandon Glenn Beck, but the numbers prove otherwise, said
James Rucker, Executive Director of ColorOfChange.org. Fox News Channel
has a limited amount of ad positions. If 62 companies refuse to run ads
on two of their 24 hours of programming, they are losing inventory. No
matter how high Becks ratings have been lately, advertisers still see
Beck as toxic and don't want him associated with their brands. There is
no way that Fox News Channel is making the money they should be making
with Glenn Beck.



ColorOfChange.org launched its campaign against Beck last month after
the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a racist who has a
deep-seated hatred for white people during an appearance on Fox &
Friends, remarks that they say indicates a pattern of race-baiting and
fear-mongering on Beck's part. ColorOfChange.org called on its members
to sign a petition urging companies who advertise on Glenn Beck to cut
off their advertising support of his work. To date, over 180,000 people
have signed the petition and 62 companies have pledged to not run any
additional advertisements during Glenn Becks show.



Speaking about the current roster of advertisers on Beck's show, Rucker
said, Its clear that we are making an impact at Fox News Channel
data that we have for last week shows that Becks top three advertisers
were Beachbody (creator of P90X Exercise Equipment), Egg Genie and
Telebrands (creator of Jupiter Jack).


The following is a list of the companies who have distanced themselves
from Glenn Beck: Aegon, Ashley Furniture, Airware Inc. (makers of Brez
anti-snoring aids), Allergan (maker of Restasis), Ally Bank (a unit of
GMAC Financial Services), Ancestry.com, Applebees, AT&T, Bank of
America, Best Buy, Binder & Binder, Blaine Labs Inc., Broadview
Security, Campbell Soup Company, Capital One, ConAgra, Clorox, CVS, The
Dannon Company, DirecTv, Discover, Ditech, The Elations Company,
Experian (creator of FreeCreditReport.com), Farmers Insurance Group,
GEICO, General Mills, HSBC, Humana, ICAN Benefit Group Insurance,
Infiniti, Jelmar (manufacturer of CLR All-Purpose Cleaner) Johnson &
Johnson (makers of Tylenol), Jordan McKenna Debt Counseling Network,
Kraft, Lawyers.com, Lowes, Luxottica Retail (retail parent of
LensCrafters and Pearle Vision), Mens Wearhouse, Mercedes-Benz,
NutriSystem, Procter & Gamble, Progressive Insurance, RadioShack,
Re-Bath, Regions Financial Corporation, Roche, Sam (Store and Move), SC
Johnson, Sanofi-Aventis, Sargento, Simplex Healthcare (creator of the
Diabetes Care Club), Sprint, State Farm Insurance, Travelers Insurance,
Travelocity, United States Postal Service, The UPS Store, Verizon
Wireless, Vonage, Wal-Mart and Wyeth Consumer Healthcare.



With more than 600,000 members, ColorOfChange.org is the largest
African-American online political organization in the country.



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Tim September 15th 09 01:15 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.



H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 01:20 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
Tim wrote:
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.



Some advertisers have standards. Others run advertising fearmongering
shows like Beck's.

The fact that Beck has a large audience of retards does not matter.
McDonald's sells the most hamburgers, but they are still crappy hamburgers.

I hope you don't listen to Beck. You present as a Christian with a
conscience. Beck's best boys are trash like herring.


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BAR[_2_] September 15th 09 01:24 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
Tim wrote:
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.


If I sell widgets why do I care if Glen Beck's audience, Rush Limbaugh's
audience or Rachel Maddow's audience buys them. I want everyone to buy
widgets.




H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 01:28 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
BAR wrote:
Tim wrote:
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.


If I sell widgets why do I care if Glen Beck's audience, Rush Limbaugh's
audience or Rachel Maddow's audience buys them. I want everyone to buy
widgets.



That's because you are a soul-less sell-out to corporate America.

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[email protected] September 15th 09 01:32 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:24:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tim wrote:
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.


If I sell widgets why do I care if Glen Beck's audience, Rush Limbaugh's
audience or Rachel Maddow's audience buys them. I want everyone to buy
widgets.


You don't happen to carry a #5 widget, do you? I need one for my
thingamajigger.

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JustWait September 15th 09 01:36 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
In article ,
says...

Tim wrote:
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.


If I sell widgets why do I care if Glen Beck's audience, Rush Limbaugh's
audience or Rachel Maddow's audience buys them. I want everyone to buy
widgets.


It's political payback for the billions of dollars in bailouts and
porkulous money, past or future...

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[email protected] September 15th 09 01:38 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:20:24 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place. Besides, if you want to really hurt Fox, you pull the plug on
your cable or satilite dish and cut them off. after all, your
subscription pays a lot for the programming wether you think so or
not.

GMC pulled their advertising. That's great. Bully for them. Beck is
still widly popular and his audience is still growing. So when you're
needing business. ...pull l your ads. ...That's sensable, especially
when your corporation is floundering.


And it's interesting, that Beck's audience is growing Not only on Fox,
but radio time, and possibly passing up Limbaugh, but I cant verify
that.

So the way I see it, those who pull their ads are just giving up on a
prime marketing oppertunity, and I may be wrong but it could be their
loss. Not beck's nor Fox, but theirs and theirs alone.



Some advertisers have standards. Others run advertising fearmongering
shows like Beck's.

The fact that Beck has a large audience of retards does not matter.
McDonald's sells the most hamburgers, but they are still crappy hamburgers.

I hope you don't listen to Beck. You present as a Christian with a
conscience. Beck's best boys are trash like herring.


Isn't Beck a man of faith? That has been my understanding.

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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 01:52 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:24:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

If I sell widgets why do I care if Glen Beck's audience, Rush Limbaugh's
audience or Rachel Maddow's audience buys them. I want everyone to buy
widgets.


Then, my advice to you is not to associate politics or religion with
the marketing of your widgets..... whether it is Beck or Maddow (or
both) you are going to **** somebody off and they will try to punish
you with a boycott.....

.... hell, we can't even discuss boating anymore because somebody----
anybody got elected to the White House...


How could you discuss boats with half the righties in here? They're
boatless.


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Tim September 15th 09 04:02 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Sep 14, 3:51*pm, H the K wrote:
62 Companies Refusing to Advertise with Beck Cost Fox

Nearly $600k Per Week

OAKLAND, Calif. The advertising boycott of Glenn Beck has cost the
controversial host over half of his estimated advertising revenue since
it was launched by ColorOfChange.org a month ago. This according to data
analyzed from industry sources.

Estimated advertising revenue [the total amount of advertising money
being spent during a block of commercial time for a program] was
collected on a week-by-week basis for a period of two months. According
to the data collected, the amount of money spent by national advertisers
on Becks program per week was at its highest at approximately
$1,060,000, for the week ending August 2, 2009. *ColorOfChange.org
launched their campaign at the end of that week and since then, 62
advertisers have distanced themselves from Beck. Data collected for the
week ending September 6, 2009 shows Becks estimated ad revenue at
$492,000, equal to a loss of $568,000.

Fox News Channel has consistently claimed they havent lost revenue as
advertisers abandon Glenn Beck, but the numbers prove otherwise, said
James Rucker, Executive Director of ColorOfChange.org. Fox News Channel
has a limited amount of ad positions. If 62 companies refuse to run ads
on two of their 24 hours of programming, they are losing inventory. No
matter how high Becks ratings have been lately, advertisers still see
Beck as toxic and don't want him associated with their brands. There is
no way that Fox News Channel is making the money they should be making
with Glenn Beck.

ColorOfChange.org launched its campaign against Beck last month after
the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a racist who has a
deep-seated hatred for white people during an appearance on Fox &
Friends, remarks that they say indicates a pattern of race-baiting and
fear-mongering on Beck's part. *ColorOfChange.org called on its members
to sign a petition urging companies who advertise on Glenn Beck to cut
off their advertising support of his work. To date, over 180,000 people
have signed the petition and 62 companies have pledged to not run any
additional advertisements during Glenn Becks show.

Speaking about the current roster of advertisers on Beck's show, Rucker
said, Its clear that we are making an impact at Fox News Channel
data that we have for last week shows that Becks top three advertisers
were Beachbody (creator of P90X Exercise Equipment), Egg Genie and
Telebrands (creator of Jupiter Jack).

The following is a list of the companies who have distanced themselves
from Glenn Beck: Aegon, Ashley Furniture, Airware Inc. (makers of Brez
anti-snoring aids), Allergan (maker of Restasis), Ally Bank (a unit of
GMAC Financial Services), Ancestry.com, Applebees, AT&T, Bank of
America, Best Buy, Binder & Binder, Blaine Labs Inc., Broadview
Security, Campbell Soup Company, Capital One, ConAgra, Clorox, CVS, The
Dannon Company, DirecTv, Discover, Ditech, The Elations Company,
Experian (creator of FreeCreditReport.com), Farmers Insurance Group,
GEICO, General Mills, HSBC, Humana, ICAN Benefit Group Insurance,
Infiniti, Jelmar (manufacturer of CLR All-Purpose Cleaner) Johnson &
Johnson (makers of Tylenol), Jordan McKenna Debt Counseling Network,
Kraft, Lawyers.com, Lowes, Luxottica Retail (retail parent of
LensCrafters and Pearle Vision), Mens Wearhouse, Mercedes-Benz,
NutriSystem, Procter & Gamble, Progressive Insurance, RadioShack,
Re-Bath, Regions Financial Corporation, Roche, Sam (Store and Move), SC
Johnson, Sanofi-Aventis, Sargento, Simplex Healthcare (creator of the
Diabetes Care Club), Sprint, State Farm Insurance, Travelers Insurance,
Travelocity, United States Postal Service, The UPS Store, Verizon
Wireless, Vonage, Wal-Mart and Wyeth Consumer Healthcare.

With more than 600,000 members, ColorOfChange.org is the largest
African-American online political organization in the country.

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Be careful what you read, Harry.

"The Oakland, Calif.-based group, Color of Change spearheaded the
boycott of the show (which, by the way, has an audience of over 2
million viewers) to protest Becks remark last month that he believes
President Obama is a racist.

The group says that so far 36 companies including Ancestry.com,
Walmart Stores, Berkshire Hathaway's Geico and Men's Wearhouse have
said they wont advertise on Becks show. "

OK, so far so good.

Now here's what's sort of counteractive with your above list:

"Some companies, however, never advertised on the show and others such
as Procter & Gamble and S.C. Johnson recently said they had never
meant to advertise and their ads were placed there by mistake....But
most interestingly, Clorox Co. has said it is pulling its ad dollars
out of all politically oriented talk programs. ..."


So, i suppose if you are pulling your ad's from ALL pol. talk, you can
be listed as pulling away from Beck or Fox, right?

Not only that, but if you never put any ads on political talk, that
means you're pulling your ads from Beck or Fox, right? Even if you
didn't have any ads to pull?


most interesting.

HK[_4_] September 15th 09 08:03 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Sep 14, 11:02*pm, Tim wrote:

Not only that, but if you never put any ads on political talk, that
means you're pulling your ads from Beck or Fox, right? Even if you
didn't have any ads to pull?

most interesting.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I never let facts bother me - they only complicate the issue.

Jim September 15th 09 11:17 AM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
HK wrote:
On Sep 14, 11:02 pm, Tim wrote:

Not only that, but if you never put any ads on political talk, that
means you're pulling your ads from Beck or Fox, right? Even if you
didn't have any ads to pull?

most interesting.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I never let facts bother me - they only complicate the issue.


Two degrees in English, and you hyphenate two sentences? Wassup bro?

JohnH[_5_] September 15th 09 12:19 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:

On Sep 14, 11:02*pm, Tim wrote:

Not only that, but if you never put any ads on political talk, that
means you're pulling your ads from Beck or Fox, right? Even if you
didn't have any ads to pull?

most interesting.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I never let facts bother me - they only complicate the issue.


Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.
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thunder September 15th 09 02:31 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:19:55 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:


Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.


Uh, that's not Harry.

JohnH[_5_] September 15th 09 03:54 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:31:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:19:55 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:


Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.


Uh, that's not Harry.


Obviously, he told the truth.
--

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Jordon[_2_] September 15th 09 04:07 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?


Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.

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[email protected] September 15th 09 04:27 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:07:34 -0700, Jordon
wrote:

wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?


Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.


It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.

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Jordon[_2_] September 15th 09 05:13 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?

Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.


It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.


He said "Christian with a conscience", so I suppose
you could have said "Doesn't Beck have a conscience?".
And that would have been pretty damn funny.

But the full sentence... "You present as a Christian
with a conscience." doesn't make any sense anyway.

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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 05:19 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
Jordon wrote:
wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?
Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.


It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.


He said "Christian with a conscience", so I suppose
you could have said "Doesn't Beck have a conscience?".
And that would have been pretty damn funny.

But the full sentence... "You present as a Christian
with a conscience." doesn't make any sense anyway.


Sure it does. I don't think Tim plays at being a Christian, as so many
self-proclaiming Christians here do. I think he is the real deal, within
limitations. He has a conscience. John Herring claims to be a Catholic,
a Christian, but that's a bull**** claim. He's a conscious-less dirtbag.



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[email protected] September 15th 09 06:02 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:19:48 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Jordon wrote:
wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?
Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.

It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.


He said "Christian with a conscience", so I suppose
you could have said "Doesn't Beck have a conscience?".
And that would have been pretty damn funny.

But the full sentence... "You present as a Christian
with a conscience." doesn't make any sense anyway.


Sure it does. I don't think Tim plays at being a Christian, as so many
self-proclaiming Christians here do. I think he is the real deal, within
limitations. He has a conscience. John Herring claims to be a Catholic,
a Christian, but that's a bull**** claim. He's a conscious-less dirtbag.


"Conscious-less"? (Not that I share in any vituperation, mind you.)

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jps September 15th 09 06:07 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Oh, think nothing of it, Harry.

When somebody pulles their advertising, somebody else takes their
place.


Beck's ad revenue has been cut in half. They're either having to sell
his time for less or they're running fewer ads.

Jordon[_2_] September 15th 09 06:07 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
H the K wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?
Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.

It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.


He said "Christian with a conscience", so I suppose
you could have said "Doesn't Beck have a conscience?".
And that would have been pretty damn funny.

But the full sentence... "You present as a Christian
with a conscience." doesn't make any sense anyway.


Sure it does.


"You present as a Christian with a conscience." makes
sense to you? Perhaps you may have left out an
important word that clarifies who you're talking about?
Maybe the word "yourself", if you were talking about Tim,
would have made it clear? Otherwise I could have just as
easily inserted the word "him" and it would sound like
Tim has previously presented Beck as a Christian with a
conscience, which, of course, would have been hysterical.

--
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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 06:16 PM

Ad Boycott Costs Glenn Beck Over 50% of Ad Dollars
 
Jordon wrote:
H the K wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?
Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.

It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.

He said "Christian with a conscience", so I suppose
you could have said "Doesn't Beck have a conscience?".
And that would have been pretty damn funny.

But the full sentence... "You present as a Christian
with a conscience." doesn't make any sense anyway.


Sure it does.


"You present as a Christian with a conscience." makes
sense to you? Perhaps you may have left out an
important word that clarifies who you're talking about?
Maybe the word "yourself", if you were talking about Tim,
would have made it clear? Otherwise I could have just as
easily inserted the word "him" and it would sound like
Tim has previously presented Beck as a Christian with a
conscience, which, of course, would have been hysterical.



One of the many meanings of the word "present" includes the way
I used it.

He "presents" as a Christian means he either directly or indirectly
comes across as someone who follows teachings of the Christian religion
with a conscience. We have a couple of dirtbags here who present
themselves as Christians but who do not follow the teachings.




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jps September 15th 09 06:17 PM

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:54:45 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:31:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:19:55 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:


Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.


Uh, that's not Harry.


Obviously, he told the truth.


Yeah, so obvious that you jumped on it like a skanky whore.

JohnH[_5_] September 15th 09 06:20 PM

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:17:49 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:54:45 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:31:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:19:55 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:


Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.

Uh, that's not Harry.


Obviously, he told the truth.


Yeah, so obvious that you jumped on it like a skanky whore.


Can one be a conscious-less dirtbag skanky whore?

Wow. You guys are good!
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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 06:21 PM

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jps wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:54:45 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:31:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:19:55 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:

Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.
Uh, that's not Harry.

Obviously, he told the truth.


Yeah, so obvious that you jumped on it like a skanky whore.




What do you mean, "like a skanky whore"?

What do you think herring is, if not a skanky whore?


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Jordon[_2_] September 15th 09 07:06 PM

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H the K wrote:
Jordon wrote:
H the K wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:
Jordon wrote:
wrote:

Isn't Beck a man of faith?
Being a man of faith, doesn't mean ****. Jim Jones
was a man of faith.

It means something to "H the K," else he wouldn't have made his
particular appeal to Tim.

He said "Christian with a conscience", so I suppose
you could have said "Doesn't Beck have a conscience?".
And that would have been pretty damn funny.

But the full sentence... "You present as a Christian
with a conscience." doesn't make any sense anyway.


Sure it does.


"You present as a Christian with a conscience." makes
sense to you? Perhaps you may have left out an
important word that clarifies who you're talking about?
Maybe the word "yourself", if you were talking about Tim,
would have made it clear? Otherwise I could have just as
easily inserted the word "him" and it would sound like
Tim has previously presented Beck as a Christian with a
conscience, which, of course, would have been hysterical.



One of the many meanings of the word "present" includes the way
I used it.


In which school do they teach that?

Present = to introduce
Present = a gift
Present = in attendance
Present = now
In law, presents = this document(s)

But I take it that you were referring to the meaning
as "to introduce". "You introduce as a Christian" doesn't
sound right.

He "presents" as a Christian means he either directly or indirectly
comes across as someone who follows teachings of the Christian religion
with a conscience. We have a couple of dirtbags here who present
themselves as Christians but who do not follow the teachings.

^^^^^^^^^

Now there you go. You used the word "themselves" to
delineate your meaning and it becomes clear. Without
specifying "who", you leave it up to the reader to
guess.

I just can't find any examples of your way of using
the word, here...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/present

Is it an ebonics thing?

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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 08:09 PM

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Jordon wrote:
Wow, there are sure a lot of examples there.

In order to prove your point you'd think that
in all that you've copied and pasted that the
words "present to be" would occur once. No
such luck.

And you'd think that if it were proper you'd
get at least a few hits on Google with the
exact phrase "present to be Christian". You
get two, but they're both "...present. To be
Christian...". Can you imagine that? No one
on the web has written those words together
in the context you've used?


I can show you the way to the water, but if you want to drink, it is up
to you.

I pointed out the context to you. There's no rule in English that
requires a dictionary to provide an example of every way a word may be
used. There's also no requirement in English that every phrase one uses
results from a previous, similar use.

Hell, there's no rule that requires a name to be spelled a certain way,
right, "Jordon"?





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[email protected] September 15th 09 08:17 PM

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:04:45 -0700, Jordon
wrote:

Wow, there are sure a lot of examples there.

In order to prove your point you'd think that
in all that you've copied and pasted that the
words "present to be" would occur once. No
such luck.

And you'd think that if it were proper you'd
get at least a few hits on Google with the
exact phrase "present to be Christian". You
get two, but they're both "...present. To be
Christian...". Can you imagine that? No one
on the web has written those words together
in the context you've used?


"If the case goes to a due process hearing, it is important that you
*present* as a cooperative person who thoughtfully considered the
teams program, personally observed the program..."
http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/advo....t.margolis.htm

"For example, if youre a pregnant mother who smokes and you *present*
at a maternity ward with worrying symptoms such as reduced foetal
movement you will be treated immediately..."
http://www.shelteroffshore.com/index...t-to-do-10591/

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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 08:19 PM

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wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:26:56 -0400, H the K


869) I. i. 2


Try 4, 5, 6, and b.I.9.b

See what you can learn from a *real* dictionary?

:)


I see you came with your Howitzer's fully loaded. Erudition and
recondite references win the day. BTW, what is the reference source?



OED, Second Edition, Volume 3.

I have the CD electronic version of that one, plus the
20-volume hardbound set of Second Edition and the supplements.

Bought the hardbound set at an estate sale long before the CD versions
were available, but I still use both.

Also have a hardbound Random Use and Webster's Third International, both
"unabridged," and at least a dozen other English dictionaries.

In here, though, I rarely go beyond language in The New England Primer
or McGuffey Readers. Loogy, Justhate, flajim, BAR, and the rest of the
developmentally disabled are handicapped enough.


Words, words, words. :)




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[email protected] September 15th 09 08:28 PM

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:19:18 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:26:56 -0400, H the K


869) I. i. 2


Try 4, 5, 6, and b.I.9.b

See what you can learn from a *real* dictionary?

:)


I see you came with your Howitzer's fully loaded. Erudition and
recondite references win the day. BTW, what is the reference source?



OED, Second Edition, Volume 3.

I have the CD electronic version of that one, plus the
20-volume hardbound set of Second Edition and the supplements.

Bought the hardbound set at an estate sale long before the CD versions
were available, but I still use both.


Though it feels strange rolling off the tongue, I'll have to admit
that I'm envious.

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H the K[_2_] September 15th 09 08:33 PM

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wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:19:18 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:26:56 -0400, H the K

869) I. i. 2
Try 4, 5, 6, and b.I.9.b

See what you can learn from a *real* dictionary?

:)
I see you came with your Howitzer's fully loaded. Erudition and
recondite references win the day. BTW, what is the reference source?


OED, Second Edition, Volume 3.

I have the CD electronic version of that one, plus the
20-volume hardbound set of Second Edition and the supplements.

Bought the hardbound set at an estate sale long before the CD versions
were available, but I still use both.


Though it feels strange rolling off the tongue, I'll have to admit
that I'm envious.

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This one's for you:

envious, a.

(ˈɛnvɪəs)

Forms: 4–6 envyous(e, 5 -ose, (4 enviose, -vios, -vius, -vyus, -wius, 5
enviyus, -vyows, pl. envyeusis), 4– envious. Also 5 invyowse.

[a. AF. envious, OF. envieus, -vius (mod.F. envieux) = Pr. envejos,
envios, Cat. envejos, Pg. invejoso, Sp. envidioso, It. invidioso:—L.
invidiōsus, f. invidia envy.]

1.1 Full of envy, affected or actuated by envy; vexed or discontented at
the good fortune or qualities of another. Const. *against, *at, of, *to
with n. or inf.

a 1300 Cursor M. 27658 (Cott.) Þe enuius man ai lufes he leste Þam
þat he wate er moste honeste. c 1386 Chaucer Man of Law's T. 267 O
Sathan envyous. a 1450 Knt. de la Tour (1868) 53 There be other that
be envious to see other in gretter degre thanne they. 1526 Pilgr.
Pref. (W. de W. 1531) 78 And‥the enuyous man, for to do a displeasure to
his ennemy, wyll suffre rebuke and blame. 1611 Bible Prov. xxiv. 19
Neither be thou enuious at the wicked. 1636 Ariana 328 They thought
it envious against their repose, to have shed so much as a teare for
them. 1697 Dryden Virg. Past. vii. 37 If he blast my Muse with
envious Praise. 1842 Lytton Zanoni 28 Our good Loredano is envious of
my diamond. 1872 Morley Voltaire (1886) 108 Envious scribes in his
life-time taunted him with avarice.

absol. a 1300 Cursor M. 27706 (Cott.) Forþi sais Senec on þe envius,
Quine, etc. 1340 Ayenb. 28 Vor þe more þet þe guodes byeþ greate, þe
more zorȝeþ þe enuious. 1816 Byron Monody Death Sheridan, The envious
who but breathe in others' pain. 1846 Ruskin Mod. Paint. I. Pref.
(ed. 2) 14 The envious, because they like not the sound of a living
man's praise.

*2.2 Full of ill-will; malicious, spiteful. Obs.
‘Still current dial. in Suffolk’ (F. Hall).

c 1330 R. Brunne (1810) 180 Grete scathe‥Com tille Kyng R. for þat
envios sawe. c 1430 Lydg. Chorle & Byrde (1818) 12 Hit maketh accorde
betwene folk envyous. 1579 Lyly Euphues (Arb.) 40 Who more envious
than Tymon denouncing all humaine societie. 1673 Penn Chr. Quaker iv.
531 Envious Displeasure against an Harmless Suffering People. a 1713
T. Ellwood Autobiog. (1765) 384 Printed by one of his Party with very
envious Reflections upon it.

*3.3 Full of emulation; emulous. Const. of.

a 1300 Floriz & Bl. 356 For he is suþe couetus And at þescheker
enuius. a 1450 Knt. de la Tour (1868) 150 Thei be envyeusis whiche
shalle goo furst up on the offerande. 1594 T. B. La Primaud. Fr.
Acad. ii. 318 Be enuious of the best gifts. 1821 Keats Lamia 217
Lycius Charioting foremost in the envious race.

*4.4 Grudging, parsimonious, sparing, excessively careful. Obs.

1580 Lyly Euphues (Arb.) 368 Beautie was no niggard of hir slippes in
this gardein, and very enuious to other grounds. a 1667 Jer. Taylor
(W.), No men are so envious of their health.

*5.5 Calculated to excite ill-will; invidious; odious. Obs.

1635 R. N. tr. Camden's Hist. Eliz. (ed. 3) i. 90 Which sect began
presently to be knowne by the envious name of Puritans. 1640 Bp. Hall
Episc. Ep. Ded. 5 Hath put my pen upon this envious, but necessarie taske.

*6.6 That is or may be an object of envy; enviable.

1590 Spenser F.Q. i. iv. 39 He to him lept, and that same envious
gage Of victors glory from him snatcht away. 1651 Reliq. Wotton. 69 A
glorious harvest‥which could not but have made an envious addition.
1665 Pepys Diary 8 Dec. (ed. Bright) III. 327 So envious a place.

7.7 Comb., as envious-hearted.

1873 L. Wallace Fair God ii. vii. 128 Time was when no
envious-hearted knave could have made him believe, etc.






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[email protected] September 15th 09 08:40 PM

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:33:21 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:19:18 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:26:56 -0400, H the K
869) I. i. 2
Try 4, 5, 6, and b.I.9.b

See what you can learn from a *real* dictionary?

:)
I see you came with your Howitzer's fully loaded. Erudition and
recondite references win the day. BTW, what is the reference source?

OED, Second Edition, Volume 3.

I have the CD electronic version of that one, plus the
20-volume hardbound set of Second Edition and the supplements.

Bought the hardbound set at an estate sale long before the CD versions
were available, but I still use both.


Though it feels strange rolling off the tongue, I'll have to admit
that I'm envious.

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This one's for you:

vexed or discontented at
the good fortune or qualities of another. Const. against, at, of, to
with n. or inf.


And thou shalt not covet...

(Actually I do have an electronic version of the OED. But it's buried
in the scores of discs and dvd's I have littered across the house.)

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Jordon[_2_] September 15th 09 08:43 PM

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H the K wrote:
Jordon wrote:
Wow, there are sure a lot of examples there.

In order to prove your point you'd think that
in all that you've copied and pasted that the
words "present to be" would occur once. No
such luck.

And you'd think that if it were proper you'd
get at least a few hits on Google with the
exact phrase "present to be Christian". You
get two, but they're both "...present. To be
Christian...". Can you imagine that? No one
on the web has written those words together
in the context you've used?


I pointed out the context to you.


You did not point out any context except your own.
Can you provide any examples that use it in the
same context? A link, to anything? As in: "present
to be" followed by a proper noun. And if it sounds
like ebonics, it doesn't count.

Hell, there's no rule that requires a name to be spelled a certain way,
right, "Jordon"?


My mother wanted to get her brother's name in there
and his name was Don.

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jps September 18th 09 05:59 PM

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:21:10 -0400, H the K
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:54:45 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:31:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:19:55 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT), HK
wrote:

Yo Tim! You got Harry to utter a true sentence. Good job.
Uh, that's not Harry.
Obviously, he told the truth.


Yeah, so obvious that you jumped on it like a skanky whore.




What do you mean, "like a skanky whore"?

What do you think herring is, if not a skanky whore?


My bad. Should have read "like the skanky whore you are."


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