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The problem is we are breeding more terrorists with our killing of their civilians than we are killing. The Afghanis are equating us with the Soviets now, negating all we did in the 80s to help them beat the Soviets anyone believe this? bueller? bueller? |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:15:49 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:18:24 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWait" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:59:56 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... 9/11 came and went without much fanfare. I wonder why that is. Far less people were killed at Pearl Harbor, but the outrage was much more. I thought it was sad that so many have forgotten so soon, so many think it was a conspiracy from within, and that we don't have to worry about future terrorism. We are all so safe now that terrorism has been removed from the vocabulary. Steve Forgetting is politically expedient for nearly half of the country... Obama is keeping us safe from the evil terrorists, just like the right claimed Bush was doing because there wasn't an attack after 9/11 You are correct. That's another thing I can add to the list of great Obama accomplishments. Yup, it's great that Bush spent 8 years softening them up:) snerk -- Wafa free since 2009 Yeah, murdering people. Lots of people. One of Bush's accomplishments in your mind anyway. -- Nom=de=Plume Just continuing in the footsteps of his predecessor. Bush killed at least 100,000 people. He also allowed 3000+ U.S. civilians to be killed. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All And Clinton was killing people in Irag, Bosnia, and allowed Ben Ladin to walk, so he could plan and train the pilots on his watch. They both suck. They suck as much as you suck and that is a whole bunch of suck. ROTFL! -- John H Of course non of that matters now that Clinton isn't in office, correct John? Absolutey! But this was quite funny: "They both suck. They suck as much as you suck and that is a whole bunch of suck. " Maybe you missed it in your desire to correct me for some flagrantly offensive act. -- John H |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:43:48 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:35:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:35:26 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... 9/11 came and went without much fanfare. I wonder why that is. Far less people were killed at Pearl Harbor, but the outrage was much more. I thought it was sad that so many have forgotten so soon, so many think it was a conspiracy from within, and that we don't have to worry about future terrorism. We are all so safe now that terrorism has been removed from the vocabulary. Steve Forgetting is politically expedient for nearly half of the country... Obama is keeping us safe from the evil terrorists, just like the right claimed Bush was doing because there wasn't an attack after 9/11 I think the Bush Admin. already took care of the heavy lifting... Using your analogy, my Doctor has kept me safe from bubonic plague.. Your party was the one claiming that Bush was keeping us safe. And the reasoning was because there hadn't been an attack since 9/11. SO, it's a simple analogy that Obama is keeping us safe also. But, I honestly suspected that you'd figure out a way to spin it so that Bush is the hero, and Obama hasn't done anything. Typical and expected. Loogy, I think you're correct on this one. 'Bama has done a super job at preventing terrorist attacks. Of course, there's no such thing as a terrorist attack, but he's been successful in preventing 'man made disasters' also. And, I've not caught bubonic plague either! -- John H You're missing the point! When Bush was president, you and other righties made frequent comments about how safe he was keeping us because we hadn't had an attack since 9/11. So it stands that Obama is doing a great job at it too. I made several comments about how lame that reasoning was. Oh my goodness. You may be right again, although I can't remember *ever* uttering a comment about how safe Bush was keeping us. Perhaps you could find even *one* example of such? And, I've done nothing *but* agree that 'Bama is doing a super job at keeping us safe from man made disasters. What the hell more do you want? Yeah, me either but don't let that stop anybody from stereotyping us, especially a representative of "the tolerant party"...;) I can't figure Loogy out. Hell, I praise the hell out of 'Bama, but it's never good enough. Just today, 'Bama saved over 240,000 jobs. The guy is probably the best leader since Moses. -- John H John, your condescending bull**** is getting old. |
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... nom=de=plume wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "JustWait" wrote in message ... In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... 9/11 came and went without much fanfare. I wonder why that is. Far less people were killed at Pearl Harbor, but the outrage was much more. I thought it was sad that so many have forgotten so soon, so many think it was a conspiracy from within, and that we don't have to worry about future terrorism. We are all so safe now that terrorism has been removed from the vocabulary. Steve Forgetting is politically expedient for nearly half of the country... Obama is keeping us safe from the evil terrorists, just like the right claimed Bush was doing because there wasn't an attack after 9/11 I think the Bush Admin. already took care of the heavy lifting... Using your analogy, my Doctor has kept me safe from bubonic plague.. -- Wafa free since 2009 Yeah, like starting a war to inflame the Islamic world. A war of choice, a war where 1000s of our men and women died for no reason. Your doctor didn't keep you safe. It was institutions such as the CDC.. gov't run agencies. The CDC is an information clearing house and policy producing organization. The CDC is not on the leading edge of research. In that case, don't follow their recommendations. Duhh... Wasn't the CDC involved in the plastic wrap and duct tape reccomendation? Nope... that was DHS. Are you sure? I didn't think the DHS had been created or congealed at that time. I was referring to this incident... were you thinking of something else? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape_alert -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Sep 14, 12:51 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "H the K" wrote in message om... Calif Bill wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWait" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:59:56 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... 9/11 came and went without much fanfare. I wonder why that is. Far less people were killed at Pearl Harbor, but the outrage was much more. I thought it was sad that so many have forgotten so soon, so many think it was a conspiracy from within, and that we don't have to worry about future terrorism. We are all so safe now that terrorism has been removed from the vocabulary. Steve Forgetting is politically expedient for nearly half of the country... Obama is keeping us safe from the evil terrorists, just like the right claimed Bush was doing because there wasn't an attack after 9/11 You are correct. That's another thing I can add to the list of great Obama accomplishments. Yup, it's great that Bush spent 8 years softening them up:) snerk -- Wafa free since 2009 Yeah, murdering people. Lots of people. One of Bush's accomplishments in your mind anyway. -- Nom=de=Plume Just continuing in the footsteps of his predecessor. Bush killed at least 100,000 people. He also allowed 3000+ U.S. civilians to be killed. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All And Clinton was killing people in Irag, Bosnia, and allowed Ben Ladin to walk, so he could plan and train the pilots on his watch. They both suck. They suck as much as you suck and that is a whole bunch of suck. Allowed bin Laden to walk? How's that? He tried to get him several times. not only that, but every time clinton did something, the GOP complained it was 'political'. if he'd killed bin laden the GOP would have impeached him They found something else.... lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:41:32 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:43:48 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:35:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:35:26 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... 9/11 came and went without much fanfare. I wonder why that is. Far less people were killed at Pearl Harbor, but the outrage was much more. I thought it was sad that so many have forgotten so soon, so many think it was a conspiracy from within, and that we don't have to worry about future terrorism. We are all so safe now that terrorism has been removed from the vocabulary. Steve Forgetting is politically expedient for nearly half of the country... Obama is keeping us safe from the evil terrorists, just like the right claimed Bush was doing because there wasn't an attack after 9/11 I think the Bush Admin. already took care of the heavy lifting... Using your analogy, my Doctor has kept me safe from bubonic plague.. Your party was the one claiming that Bush was keeping us safe. And the reasoning was because there hadn't been an attack since 9/11. SO, it's a simple analogy that Obama is keeping us safe also. But, I honestly suspected that you'd figure out a way to spin it so that Bush is the hero, and Obama hasn't done anything. Typical and expected. Loogy, I think you're correct on this one. 'Bama has done a super job at preventing terrorist attacks. Of course, there's no such thing as a terrorist attack, but he's been successful in preventing 'man made disasters' also. And, I've not caught bubonic plague either! -- John H You're missing the point! When Bush was president, you and other righties made frequent comments about how safe he was keeping us because we hadn't had an attack since 9/11. So it stands that Obama is doing a great job at it too. I made several comments about how lame that reasoning was. Oh my goodness. You may be right again, although I can't remember *ever* uttering a comment about how safe Bush was keeping us. Perhaps you could find even *one* example of such? And, I've done nothing *but* agree that 'Bama is doing a super job at keeping us safe from man made disasters. What the hell more do you want? Yeah, me either but don't let that stop anybody from stereotyping us, especially a representative of "the tolerant party"...;) I can't figure Loogy out. Hell, I praise the hell out of 'Bama, but it's never good enough. Just today, 'Bama saved over 240,000 jobs. The guy is probably the best leader since Moses. -- John H John, your condescending bull**** is getting old. Loogy, you'd whine if someone ****ed in your beer. Are you implying he *didn't* save 240,000 jobs today? -- John H |
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... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:26:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best. I thought it was pretty clear that bin laden is in Pakistan. He left Tora Bora, right... Yet we are still losing Americans every day looking for him in Afghanistan ... amazing. There does seem to be a double standard on the left. If this was GWB doing this, it would be the only thing the talking heads on TV were talking about. Not to my knowledge we are.... we're supposedly trying to protect the Afg. people and ensuring a stable gov't there. I haven't heard anything about hunting for bin laden in Afg. since he left Tora Bora. Not sure what you mean by the double standard comment. The Afg. war was supported by the world community, by both right and left in this country, and now is being criticized by many on the left as a waste of effort. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. As Obama said (paraphrasing), the generals are thinking about the war, the president needs to think about the world. The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best.- today that's true. wasn't true on 9/11. If you believe that you are saying GWB was right and BHO is wrong. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider? Personally I don't believe the Taliban has ever had any grudge with the US beyond our invading their country and if we leave they won't care about us at all. They tolerated al queda but, I doubt they had anything to do with 9-11 ?? The Taliban were clearly supporting bin laden, although not many years prior to 9/11, certainly leading up to it. They did more than tolerate them. They actively supported them in the timeframe I notes. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:41:32 -0400, NotNow wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:43:48 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:35:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:35:26 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... 9/11 came and went without much fanfare. I wonder why that is. Far less people were killed at Pearl Harbor, but the outrage was much more. I thought it was sad that so many have forgotten so soon, so many think it was a conspiracy from within, and that we don't have to worry about future terrorism. We are all so safe now that terrorism has been removed from the vocabulary. Steve Forgetting is politically expedient for nearly half of the country... Obama is keeping us safe from the evil terrorists, just like the right claimed Bush was doing because there wasn't an attack after 9/11 I think the Bush Admin. already took care of the heavy lifting... Using your analogy, my Doctor has kept me safe from bubonic plague.. Your party was the one claiming that Bush was keeping us safe. And the reasoning was because there hadn't been an attack since 9/11. SO, it's a simple analogy that Obama is keeping us safe also. But, I honestly suspected that you'd figure out a way to spin it so that Bush is the hero, and Obama hasn't done anything. Typical and expected. Loogy, I think you're correct on this one. 'Bama has done a super job at preventing terrorist attacks. Of course, there's no such thing as a terrorist attack, but he's been successful in preventing 'man made disasters' also. And, I've not caught bubonic plague either! -- John H You're missing the point! When Bush was president, you and other righties made frequent comments about how safe he was keeping us because we hadn't had an attack since 9/11. So it stands that Obama is doing a great job at it too. I made several comments about how lame that reasoning was. Oh my goodness. You may be right again, although I can't remember *ever* uttering a comment about how safe Bush was keeping us. Perhaps you could find even *one* example of such? And, I've done nothing *but* agree that 'Bama is doing a super job at keeping us safe from man made disasters. What the hell more do you want? Yeah, me either but don't let that stop anybody from stereotyping us, especially a representative of "the tolerant party"...;) I can't figure Loogy out. Hell, I praise the hell out of 'Bama, but it's never good enough. Just today, 'Bama saved over 240,000 jobs. The guy is probably the best leader since Moses. -- John H John, your condescending bull**** is getting old. Loogy, you'd whine if someone ****ed in your beer. Are you implying he *didn't* save 240,000 jobs today? -- John H No, I'm "implying" your condescending bull**** is getting old. AND lame. |
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