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Tom Francis - SWSports September 10th 09 04:38 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.

H the K[_2_] September 10th 09 04:57 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.


There's nothing dishonest about it, since the poll was taken of those
who watched the speech, and the number of Dems who watched greatly
exceeded the number of Repubs who watched.

More important, Obama cut the balls off the crazier congressional Repubs
last night and firmed up his positions among those in the House audience
who mattered. I think it is now possible that with a handful of Repub
senators, Obama is damned close to 60 votes right now in the Senate.

It'll be lovely when it passes, for the obvious reasons that it will
help those who need the help. Just as nice, it will give the Dems a
terrific campaign issue against the Repubs, who not only are against
health insurance reform, but are also against Medicare.

And...hopefully...it'll give some of those on the far right, the Obama
haters, a stroke. :)


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

NotNow[_3_] September 10th 09 06:05 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.


Do you mean like the lies being pushed to the right wing by the GOP?

nom=de=plume September 10th 09 06:41 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.



Not sure where the dishonestly lies... more dems watched than reps. Well,
duhhh...

--
Nom=de=Plume



H the K[_2_] September 10th 09 06:43 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.



Not sure where the dishonestly lies... more dems watched than reps. Well,
duhhh...



You do know that Tom is a wealthy right-winger who abhors Obama's
victory and wishes nothing more than failure on him, right?




--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

nom=de=plume September 10th 09 06:48 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
"H the K" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.



Not sure where the dishonestly lies... more dems watched than reps. Well,
duhhh...



You do know that Tom is a wealthy right-winger who abhors Obama's victory
and wishes nothing more than failure on him, right?



Hmmm... well, he speaks French and he's rich, but I couldn't take the
right-wing stuff for longer than a nanosecond.

--
Nom=de=Plume



JustWait September 10th 09 06:53 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
In article ,
says...

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.


Do you mean like the lies being pushed to the right wing by the GOP?


You mean the lies that about 70 percent of the country knows as fact..
In your book anything over 51% is "settled" and a "concences (sp?)" so
we should be over this thing already, right?

--
Wafa free since 2009

NotNow[_3_] September 10th 09 07:37 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.

Do you mean like the lies being pushed to the right wing by the GOP?


You mean the lies that about 70 percent of the country knows as fact..
In your book anything over 51% is "settled" and a "concences (sp?)" so
we should be over this thing already, right?

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?

JustWait September 11th 09 02:21 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.
Do you mean like the lies being pushed to the right wing by the GOP?


You mean the lies that about 70 percent of the country knows as fact..
In your book anything over 51% is "settled" and a "concences (sp?)" so
we should be over this thing already, right?

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] September 11th 09 03:04 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.
Do you mean like the lies being pushed to the right wing by the GOP?
You mean the lies that about 70 percent of the country knows as fact..
In your book anything over 51% is "settled" and a "concences (sp?)" so
we should be over this thing already, right?

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


For comic relief, of course.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

NotNow[_3_] September 11th 09 02:36 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Really? Well, let's take a look.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

"The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic
and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of
Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the
sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a
whole."

I guess it's better to be openly dishonest rather than just plain
dishonest.
Do you mean like the lies being pushed to the right wing by the GOP?
You mean the lies that about 70 percent of the country knows as fact..
In your book anything over 51% is "settled" and a "concences (sp?)" so
we should be over this thing already, right?

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


http://www.pnhp.org/

Jordon[_2_] September 11th 09 03:49 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.

That's funny **** right there.

--
Jordon

Sure,Not September 11th 09 04:47 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 


And...hopefully...it'll give some of those on the far right, the Obama
haters, a stroke. :)


Nice. But they will get the satisfaction that someone else will pay
for it.

NotNow[_3_] September 11th 09 04:59 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten
you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.

That's funny **** right there.

Why?

jps September 11th 09 05:22 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:49:13 -0700, Jordon
wrote:

JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.

That's funny **** right there.


You can hear all his talkng points on Fox News. Tune in anytime.
Every host, anchor and guest will be constantly repeating them.

H the K[_2_] September 11th 09 05:35 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:49:13 -0700, Jordon
wrote:

JustWait wrote:
says...
Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?
No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...

Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.

That's funny **** right there.


You can hear all his talkng points on Fox News. Tune in anytime.
Every host, anchor and guest will be constantly repeating them.



JustWait...our own little Glenn Beck... :)

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

H the K[_2_] September 11th 09 05:41 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten
you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.


Why?


He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.



NotNow is JustWait's cranial clone.


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Jordon[_2_] September 11th 09 05:41 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten
you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.


Why?


He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.

--
Jordon

NotNow[_3_] September 11th 09 06:56 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten
you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.


Why?


He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.

Everyone here has the right to kill file anybody they so choose.

Jordon[_2_] September 11th 09 08:01 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...


Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has
gotten you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?


No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...


Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.


Why?


He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.

Everyone here has the right to kill file anybody they so choose.


And the sun sets in the west. What's your point? Are
you defending the little cry-baby's right to act like
a child? Take the word "plonked" out of my statement
and replace it with "got offended". It'll read the
same.

--
Jordon

NotNow[_3_] September 11th 09 08:50 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has
gotten you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?

No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...

Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.

Why?

He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.

Everyone here has the right to kill file anybody they so choose.


And the sun sets in the west. What's your point? Are
you defending the little cry-baby's right to act like
a child? Take the word "plonked" out of my statement
and replace it with "got offended". It'll read the
same.


Well, I'm also defending YOUR right to act like a child and boor.

Jordon[_2_] September 11th 09 09:42 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has
gotten you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?

No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...

Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.

Why?

He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.


Everyone here has the right to kill file anybody they so choose.


And the sun sets in the west. What's your point? Are
you defending the little cry-baby's right to act like
a child? Take the word "plonked" out of my statement
and replace it with "got offended". It'll read the
same.


Well, I'm also defending YOUR right to act like a child and boor.


You keep typing, but you never manage to say anything
relevant.

--
Jordon

H the K[_2_] September 11th 09 09:52 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has
gotten you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?

No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...

Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.

Why?

He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.


Everyone here has the right to kill file anybody they so choose.


And the sun sets in the west. What's your point? Are
you defending the little cry-baby's right to act like
a child? Take the word "plonked" out of my statement
and replace it with "got offended". It'll read the
same.


Well, I'm also defending YOUR right to act like a child and boor.


You keep typing, but you never manage to say anything
relevant.


You do realize, I am sure, that you have captured in one thread two of
the ranking morons in rec.boats, JustWait (aka JustHate), and NotNow
(aka loogy, basskisser, and a half dozen other handles).

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Jordon[_2_] September 11th 09 10:47 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
H the K wrote:
You do realize, I am sure, that you have captured in one thread two of
the ranking morons in rec.boats, JustWait (aka JustHate), and NotNow
(aka loogy, basskisser, and a half dozen other handles).


Yeah. I'm new around this neck of the usenet. I like
the way that sounds... "you have captured in one
thread two of the ranking morons". Now that I've
captured them, what do you think I should do with
them?

--
Jordon

Don White September 12th 09 01:48 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 

"Jordon" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
You do realize, I am sure, that you have captured in one thread two of
the ranking morons in rec.boats, JustWait (aka JustHate), and NotNow (aka
loogy, basskisser, and a half dozen other handles).


Yeah. I'm new around this neck of the usenet. I like
the way that sounds... "you have captured in one
thread two of the ranking morons". Now that I've
captured them, what do you think I should do with
them?

--
Jordon


Well...with JustHate...a simple toss down a suitable staircase will quiet
him for some time.
As for LooneyTunes..........he gets excited around broken bones......



H the K[_2_] September 12th 09 02:14 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
H the K wrote:
You do realize, I am sure, that you have captured in one thread two of
the ranking morons in rec.boats, JustWait (aka JustHate), and NotNow
(aka loogy, basskisser, and a half dozen other handles).


Yeah. I'm new around this neck of the usenet. I like
the way that sounds... "you have captured in one
thread two of the ranking morons". Now that I've
captured them, what do you think I should do with
them?


Drown 'em.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

jps September 12th 09 06:20 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:35:48 -0400, H the K
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:49:13 -0700, Jordon
wrote:

JustWait wrote:
says...
Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has gotten you
to believe about Obama and HR-3200?
No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...
Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.

That's funny **** right there.


You can hear all his talkng points on Fox News. Tune in anytime.
Every host, anchor and guest will be constantly repeating them.



JustWait...our own little Glenn Beck... :)


He's not creative enough to be Beck. He's only barely smart enough to
parrot the lines.

mgg September 14th 09 03:58 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...


And...hopefully...it'll give some of those on the far right, the Obama
haters, a stroke. :)



There ya go again... wishing ill on others. You're one sick motherf***er.
Get some help will you!

--Mike



mgg September 14th 09 04:06 AM

Spinning the health care speech...
 

"Jordon" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
You do realize, I am sure, that you have captured in one thread two of
the ranking morons in rec.boats, JustWait (aka JustHate), and NotNow (aka
loogy, basskisser, and a half dozen other handles).


Yeah. I'm new around this neck of the usenet. I like
the way that sounds... "you have captured in one
thread two of the ranking morons". Now that I've
captured them, what do you think I should do with
them?

--
Jordon


Why don't you read some of the rants of HK (aka harry krause, h the k, and
many others) over the last 10 years, and decide who is *really* the ranking
moron in rec.boats. He posts with the same handles and the same dribble in
many other usenet groups as well. He's as well liked and respected in the
other groups, as he is here. snerk Usenet is all that little man has.
Here's a good start:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...oats+author:hk

--Mike



NotNow[_3_] September 14th 09 01:46 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
H the K wrote:
You do realize, I am sure, that you have captured in one thread two of
the ranking morons in rec.boats, JustWait (aka JustHate), and NotNow
(aka loogy, basskisser, and a half dozen other handles).


Yeah. I'm new around this neck of the usenet. I like
the way that sounds... "you have captured in one
thread two of the ranking morons". Now that I've
captured them, what do you think I should do with
them?


Oh, boy another Harry clone.

NotNow[_3_] September 14th 09 01:46 PM

Spinning the health care speech...
 
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JustWait wrote:
says...

Do you REALLY need me to re-post all of the lies the GOP has
gotten you to believe about Obama and HR-3200?

No, but if you were to actually read my posts once in a while...

Heh... JustBait advocates that someone read *his* post.
That's funny **** right there.

Why?

He couldn't/wouldn't/wasn't capable of/refused to,
read (and comprehend) mine. He lied about what I said,
then plonked me when I pointed out his error.

He's probably the 9 year old love child of Glenn Beck
and Rush Limbaugh, JustBait Beckinbaugh.


Everyone here has the right to kill file anybody they so choose.


And the sun sets in the west. What's your point? Are
you defending the little cry-baby's right to act like
a child? Take the word "plonked" out of my statement
and replace it with "got offended". It'll read the
same.


Well, I'm also defending YOUR right to act like a child and boor.


You keep typing, but you never manage to say anything
relevant.

It was very relevant.


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