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Tom Francis - SWSports September 9th 09 04:52 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
Read this - it will completely blow that argument out of the water.

"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led
by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can
also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the
politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move
a society forward in the 21st century."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/op...dman.html?_r=3

"Reasonably enlightened" - China.

WTF?

[email protected] September 9th 09 05:08 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:52:42 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Read this - it will completely blow that argument out of the water.

"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led
by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can
also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the
politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move
a society forward in the 21st century."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/op...dman.html?_r=3

"Reasonably enlightened" - China.

WTF?


This op-ed piece can't be serious about a reasonably enlightened
China:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM0cFEXG_mA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1DNjJd2YfA

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Frogwatch[_2_] September 9th 09 05:18 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
On Sep 9, 12:08*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:52:42 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
Read this - it will completely blow that argument out of the water.


"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led
by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can
also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the
politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move
a society forward in the 21st century."


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/op...dman.html?_r=3


"Reasonably enlightened" - China.


WTF?


This op-ed piece can't be serious about a reasonably enlightened
China:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM0cFEXG_mA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1DNjJd2YfA

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It is serious because this is the way liberals think. This is why
they embrace Chavez and Castro. In their frustration over their
inability to destroy the Republic in just 8 months, they have allowed
the mask to slip revealing what they really want. 2009 liberalism is
truly fascism. This is what we are fighting. They do not believe in
representative democracy but in an autocracy led by elites
(themselves). We should all print out the NYT editorial to remind
ourselves of the true nature of the fight.
So, yes, they want a China style system where protestors are rounded
up and shot so their organs can be harvested and sold. They want a
system where policies are handed down regardless of what the people
want. Democrats do not trust the masses and believe only themselves
have the answers.

H the K[_2_] September 9th 09 05:20 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
Read this - it will completely blow that argument out of the water.

"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led
by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can
also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the
politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move
a society forward in the 21st century."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/op...dman.html?_r=3

"Reasonably enlightened" - China.

WTF?



Snippets are so...bull****ty, eh, Doctor Tom?

"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by
a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also
have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically
difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society
forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is
committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy
efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power. China’s leaders
understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising
emerging-market middle classes, demand for clean power and energy
efficiency is going to soar. Beijing wants to make sure that it owns
that industry and is ordering the policies to do that, including
boosting gasoline prices, from the top down.

"Our one-party democracy is worse. The fact is, on both the
energy/climate legislation and health care legislation, only the
Democrats are really playing. With a few notable exceptions, the
Republican Party is standing, arms folded and saying “no.” Many of them
just want President Obama to fail. Such a waste. Mr. Obama is not a
socialist; he’s a centrist. But if he’s forced to depend entirely on his
own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different
factions."

Doctor Tom, ArmsFolded.




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H the K[_2_] September 9th 09 05:20 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
Frogwatch wrote:

It is serious because this is the way liberals think. This is why
they embrace Chavez and Castro. In their frustration over their
inability to destroy the Republic in just 8 months, they have allowed
the mask to slip revealing what they really want. 2009 liberalism is
truly fascism. This is what we are fighting. They do not believe in
representative democracy but in an autocracy led by elites
(themselves). We should all print out the NYT editorial to remind
ourselves of the true nature of the fight.
So, yes, they want a China style system where protestors are rounded
up and shot so their organs can be harvested and sold. They want a
system where policies are handed down regardless of what the people
want. Democrats do not trust the masses and believe only themselves
have the answers.




The Baker Act van is coming for you.

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JustWait September 9th 09 06:45 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
In article 5c05ead9-6528-437b-8434-
,
says...

On Sep 9, 12:08*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:52:42 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
Read this - it will completely blow that argument out of the water.


"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led
by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can
also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the
politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move
a society forward in the 21st century."


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/op...dman.html?_r=3

"Reasonably enlightened" - China.


WTF?


This op-ed piece can't be serious about a reasonably enlightened
China:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM0cFEXG_mA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1DNjJd2YfA

--
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It is serious because this is the way liberals think. This is why
they embrace Chavez and Castro. In their frustration over their
inability to destroy the Republic in just 8 months, they have allowed
the mask to slip revealing what they really want. 2009 liberalism is
truly fascism. This is what we are fighting. They do not believe in
representative democracy but in an autocracy led by elites
(themselves). We should all print out the NYT editorial to remind
ourselves of the true nature of the fight.
So, yes, they want a China style system where protestors are rounded
up and shot so their organs can be harvested and sold. They want a
system where policies are handed down regardless of what the people
want. Democrats do not trust the masses and believe only themselves
have the answers.


Hey, look on the bright side... You would probably be spared to invent
all kinds of new toys for the regime.. ;) snerk

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nom=de=plume September 9th 09 07:22 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
Read this - it will completely blow that argument out of the water.

"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led
by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can
also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the
politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move
a society forward in the 21st century."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/op...dman.html?_r=3

"Reasonably enlightened" - China.

WTF?



So, I guess you don't believe in free speech or a free press? I believe he's
a columnist and writing this in the Opinion column.

How about this one? Who wrote it? Go ahead google it up...

".... free-trade policies require laying off workers. And, opening markets
to foreign trade puts enormous pressure on traditional retailers and trade
monopolies. This leads to growing income gaps and social tensions, which in
turn can lead a range of attacks on US firms, from terrorism to government
attempts to reverse priviatizations or roll back trade incentives."

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nom=de=plume September 9th 09 07:24 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
It is serious because this is the way liberals think. This is why
they embrace Chavez and Castro. In their frustration over their
inability to destroy the Republic in just 8 months, they have allowed


Yep. You're right. We tried, we failed. I guess we should get Cheney back in
charge. lol

Democrats do not trust the masses and believe only themselves
have the answers.


Right on. Obama won by a landslide. The Dems are in control of Congress (via
voting?). We really do not trust the masses.

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Frogwatch[_2_] September 9th 09 07:40 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
On Sep 9, 2:24*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

It is serious because this is the way liberals think. *This is why
they embrace Chavez and Castro. *In their frustration over their
inability to destroy the Republic in just 8 months, they have allowed


Yep. You're right. We tried, we failed. I guess we should get Cheney back in
charge. lol

Democrats do not trust the masses and believe only themselves
have the answers.


Right on. Obama won by a landslide. The Dems are in control of Congress (via
voting?). We really do not trust the masses.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Friedman is well known for his globalist views and I agree with him on
that topic. Friedman should be able to espouse any topic he likes. I
only point out that the liberals do not trust "the people" to decide
things. This is why Obama is appointing all these czars who are
unelected.

nom=de=plume September 9th 09 08:09 PM

Still don't think Lefties are Fascists?
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Sep 9, 2:24 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

It is serious because this is the way liberals think. This is why
they embrace Chavez and Castro. In their frustration over their
inability to destroy the Republic in just 8 months, they have allowed


Yep. You're right. We tried, we failed. I guess we should get Cheney back
in
charge. lol

Democrats do not trust the masses and believe only themselves
have the answers.


Right on. Obama won by a landslide. The Dems are in control of Congress
(via
voting?). We really do not trust the masses.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Friedman is well known for his globalist views and I agree with him on
that topic. Friedman should be able to espouse any topic he likes. I
only point out that the liberals do not trust "the people" to decide
things. This is why Obama is appointing all these czars who are
unelected.


Firstly, he was elected by a majority of Americans in the last election.
That was the result of the vox populi. Even though Bush wasn't the first
time and possibly not even the second time, he was still our president.

Secondly, czars began with Nixon and were reinforced by Reagan. Obama is not
doing anything unusual in that regard.



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Nom=de=Plume




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