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I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will
see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. -- John H "Vote for a Democrat, it's easier than working!" |
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JohnH wrote:
I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. Now we know why the infamous #2 pencil is used. |
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:51:54 -0400, BAR wrote:
JohnH wrote: I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. Now we know why the infamous #2 pencil is used. There's a 'back-up' pencil? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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JohnH wrote:
I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. Are you suggesting that officials tampered with tests to show better results? In Washington DC? That is sooooo hard to believe. |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. There seems to be a kind of opposition to accountability in our schools. After all, it was a Bush plan so it really doesn't need to be respected... This from a educational drop out? Why would you care what goes on in schools? You spent most of your mandatory school time in detention. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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Gene wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:05:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. There seems to be a kind of opposition to accountability in our schools. After all, it was a Bush plan so it really doesn't need to be respected... Let me assure you it has never earned any respect. I have been a teacher since 1973 (off and on, in Public Schools and industry). Bush held up the NC system as a model for the 50. Forget it. Administrators, teachers, and students are now "accountable" and the students know less than ever. When one defines education as "accountability," the score on a test becomes the goal.... NOT THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENT? Proof? Easy, I teach at a CC where 65% of the students need remediation in at least one of the following: math, reading, composition. Better that 70% require remediation in at least 2 of the following..... http://www.news-record.com/content/2..._risk_students "Accountability" merely gives the bean counters a legal opportunity to lie with statistics. Ultimately you are accountable to the kids (the customers) through their parents. Parental complaints have serious consequences for teachers. I don't think that is the way accountability was intended to work. |
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Gene wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:05:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. There seems to be a kind of opposition to accountability in our schools. After all, it was a Bush plan so it really doesn't need to be respected... Let me assure you it has never earned any respect. I have been a teacher since 1973 (off and on, in Public Schools and industry). Bush held up the NC system as a model for the 50. Forget it. Administrators, teachers, and students are now "accountable" and the students know less than ever. When one defines education as "accountability," the score on a test becomes the goal.... NOT THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENT? Proof? Easy, I teach at a CC where 65% of the students need remediation in at least one of the following: math, reading, composition. Better that 70% require remediation in at least 2 of the following..... http://www.news-record.com/content/2..._risk_students "Accountability" merely gives the bean counters a legal opportunity to lie with statistics. Gene, none of that matters, theirs a liberal in office, nothing can be good..... |
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In article ,
says... Gene wrote: On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:05:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. There seems to be a kind of opposition to accountability in our schools. After all, it was a Bush plan so it really doesn't need to be respected... Let me assure you it has never earned any respect. I have been a teacher since 1973 (off and on, in Public Schools and industry). Bush held up the NC system as a model for the 50. Forget it. Administrators, teachers, and students are now "accountable" and the students know less than ever. When one defines education as "accountability," the score on a test becomes the goal.... NOT THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENT? Proof? Easy, I teach at a CC where 65% of the students need remediation in at least one of the following: math, reading, composition. Better that 70% require remediation in at least 2 of the following..... http://www.news-record.com/content/2..._risk_students "Accountability" merely gives the bean counters a legal opportunity to lie with statistics. Gene, none of that matters, theirs a liberal in office, nothing can be good..... Matters not who is in office, this was a Bush admin policy that has been mocked since day 1. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:28:23 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:05:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. There seems to be a kind of opposition to accountability in our schools. After all, it was a Bush plan so it really doesn't need to be respected... Let me assure you it has never earned any respect. I have been a teacher since 1973 (off and on, in Public Schools and industry). Bush held up the NC system as a model for the 50. Forget it. Administrators, teachers, and students are now "accountable" and the students know less than ever. When one defines education as "accountability," the score on a test becomes the goal.... NOT THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENT? Proof? Easy, I teach at a CC where 65% of the students need remediation in at least one of the following: math, reading, composition. Better that 70% require remediation in at least 2 of the following..... http://www.news-record.com/content/2..._risk_students "Accountability" merely gives the bean counters a legal opportunity to lie with statistics. Where would we be *without* any standards, Gene? How do you determine who needs remedial work? How do you determine if a student has met the standards you've set for the course you teach? Does the CC have standards, or are you allowed to just 'pass' whomever you desire and let the next teacher make up the deficit? There is nothing wrong with a standardized test, if it measures a students ability to perform the tasks which were the objectives of the teaching. Remember also that at a CC you're probably not getting the cream of the latest graduating crop. I think that's a shame. I always urged students and parents to take advantage of CC's for the first year or two just to save a bunch of money. In Virginia, any course taken at a CC is automatically transferable to a state university. -- John H "BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!" |
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:00:16 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:13:20 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:28:23 -0400, Gene wrote: On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:05:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... I wonder when the folks in DC and other Democrat-run big cities will see that they keep electing the same troubles over and over and over. http://tinyurl.com/lkynsa "The 34 students in one class averaged more than 10 wrong-to-right erasures on the exam." Unreal. This takes collusion from the students all the way up the line. There seems to be a kind of opposition to accountability in our schools. After all, it was a Bush plan so it really doesn't need to be respected... Let me assure you it has never earned any respect. I have been a teacher since 1973 (off and on, in Public Schools and industry). Bush held up the NC system as a model for the 50. Forget it. Administrators, teachers, and students are now "accountable" and the students know less than ever. When one defines education as "accountability," the score on a test becomes the goal.... NOT THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENT? Proof? Easy, I teach at a CC where 65% of the students need remediation in at least one of the following: math, reading, composition. Better that 70% require remediation in at least 2 of the following..... http://www.news-record.com/content/2..._risk_students "Accountability" merely gives the bean counters a legal opportunity to lie with statistics. Where would we be *without* any standards, Gene? How do you determine who needs remedial work? How do you determine if a student has met the standards you've set for the course you teach? Does the CC have standards, or are you allowed to just 'pass' whomever you desire and let the next teacher make up the deficit? There is nothing wrong with a standardized test, if it measures a students ability to perform the tasks which were the objectives of the teaching. Remember also that at a CC you're probably not getting the cream of the latest graduating crop. I think that's a shame. I always urged students and parents to take advantage of CC's for the first year or two just to save a bunch of money. In Virginia, any course taken at a CC is automatically transferable to a state university. There you go off the deep end, again: Standards that don't work are better than no standards (which nobody mentioned, anyway... so this is another one of your made-up positions). CC students are stupid. How on earth did you learn anything in school before "accountability" was all the fad? Student accountability was always a fad in the schools I attended. Even in the small parochial high school from which I graduated we took the PSAT, SAT, and other standardized tests. Certification was a requirement for schools way back then, you know. -- John H "BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!" |
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