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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:18 -0700, Jordon
wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. What are you thoughts about Bush being in a classroom when the planes hit the towers? And do you know what he was doing there? Hint: he had a film crew with him. Bush is history. Makes more sense to just say "**** you" to this kind of talk. Don't want to complicate things. Leads to arguments. --Vic |
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On Sep 2, 6:29*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:18 -0700, Jordon wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. What are you thoughts about Bush being in a classroom when the planes hit the towers? And do you know what he was doing there? Hint: he had a film crew with him. Bush is history. Makes more sense to just say "**** you" to this kind of talk. Don't want to complicate things. Leads to arguments. --Vic Jordon: He was invited to be there. As far as "My Pet Goat", Bush did exactly what a good leader should do in the circumstance, ACT CALM and consider what is happening. In other words, go on reading "My Pet Goat" instead of doing the DEM reccomended jumping up and running around yelling the sky is falling and scaring the kids. I admire his reaction. |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:18 -0700, Jordon wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. What are you thoughts about Bush being in a classroom when the planes hit the towers? And do you know what he was doing there? Hint: he had a film crew with him. Bush is history. Thank god. Makes more sense to just say "**** you" to this kind of talk. Pointing out hypocrisy to the Fox News lemmings is a duty. Don't want to complicate things. Leads to arguments. Arguments? Here? No. That couldn't happen, could it? -- Jordon |
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. *Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. *I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. *Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. This is the choir you're preaching to! You must be responding to someone else. I don't think BO should be on TV at all. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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"jps" wrote in message
... I guess no other politician uses a teleprompter. Wow. Thanks for the clarification. I'm betting he uses his enormous mental abilities to change the chromosomes of the kids directly. Perhaps Cheney will say it's not keeping us safe from the boogey man or some such nonsense. They have so little to grasp, they're down to straws. Hayseed Steve is among the most uninformed. An example by which we learn. Well, to be fair, it's tough to be a republican these days. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. *Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. *I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. *Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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In article , jordon@REMOVE-
THISsamiamnot.com says... Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:18 -0700, Jordon wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. What are you thoughts about Bush being in a classroom when the planes hit the towers? And do you know what he was doing there? Hint: he had a film crew with him. Bush is history. Thank god. Makes more sense to just say "**** you" to this kind of talk. Pointing out hypocrisy to the Fox News lemmings is a duty. Don't want to complicate things. Leads to arguments. Arguments? Here? No. That couldn't happen, could it? Oh boy.. Fox Derangement syndrome... Don't listen to any media that dares to ask real questions beyond what kind of dog are you getting. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , jordon@REMOVE- THISsamiamnot.com says... Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:18 -0700, Jordon wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. What are you thoughts about Bush being in a classroom when the planes hit the towers? And do you know what he was doing there? Hint: he had a film crew with him. Bush is history. Thank god. Makes more sense to just say "**** you" to this kind of talk. Pointing out hypocrisy to the Fox News lemmings is a duty. Don't want to complicate things. Leads to arguments. Arguments? Here? No. That couldn't happen, could it? Oh boy.. Fox Derangement syndrome... Don't listen to any media that dares to ask real questions beyond what kind of dog are you getting. The moron thinks Faux News is a news operation and asks "real"questions. |
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On Sep 2, 5:32*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 4:20*pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:35 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume *- *this is a fine example. -- uh...no. what it is is a comparison of IMAGINED evils (obama speaking to students) vs ACTUAL evils (suspension of the constitution) to show how the wheels have come off the far right trolley. Your choice, but ask yourself: why are you having a "discussion" with herring...an avowed racist?- yeah i know. but he's the current voice of the GOP. pathetic, aint it? Harry is an extremely important individual. You should heed his advice. he's right. the right is hopeless |
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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 2, 1:29 pm, Jordon wrote: SteveB wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. A speech focused on education, made by the President of the United States, should not be heard by students? -- Jordon amazing how paranoid the right wing is. The permanently afraid and the willingly ignorant right wing. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? FDR set the precedent. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:31 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 2:05 pm, wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:29 pm, Jordon wrote: SteveB wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. A speech focused on education, made by the President of the United States, should not be heard by students? -- Jordon amazing how paranoid the right wing is. I have requested that my child's school not take part in this in any way. I have asked that if they do to please provide equal time for a rebuttal and suggested that not allowing for a rebuttal may have legal consequences. a 'rebuttal' to the president of the united states? You must have missed the Democrat response to all of Bush's radio addresses and television addresses. why? are you afraid you're not an american citizen? Obama works for us, we don't work for him. |
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On Sep 3, 8:47*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? FDR set the precedent. so it's OK when bush does it because FDR did it but you're paranoid about obama speaking to schoolkids... uh...OK. i didn't realize how sick the right wing is, but you're educating me. |
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SteveB wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. I have put a lot of effort into removing "um, like, you know" from my daughters speech. I would hate to see them regress after watching Obama speak extemporaneously. My wife and I will have to have the deprogramming discussion at the dinner table the evening of Obama "educational speech." Oh, and my county compels students to perform a specific amount of volunteer work in order to qualify for high school graduation. We have to keep reminding our children that it is not volunteer work it is forced labor, something akin to indentured servitude or slavery. |
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On Sep 3, 8:50*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:31 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 2:05 pm, wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:29 pm, Jordon wrote: SteveB wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. A speech focused on education, made by the President of the United States, should not be heard by students? -- Jordon amazing how paranoid the right wing is. I have requested that my child's school not take part in this in any way. *I have asked that if they do to please provide equal time for a rebuttal and suggested that not allowing for a rebuttal may have legal consequences. a 'rebuttal' to the president of the united states? You must have missed the Democrat response to all of Bush's radio addresses and television addresses. i guess the GOP is afraid of schoolkids. why? are you afraid you're not an american citizen? Obama works for us, we don't work for him and you seem to think he works for the kremlin. |
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BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:31 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 2:05 pm, wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:29 pm, Jordon wrote: SteveB wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. A speech focused on education, made by the President of the United States, should not be heard by students? -- Jordon amazing how paranoid the right wing is. I have requested that my child's school not take part in this in any way. I have asked that if they do to please provide equal time for a rebuttal and suggested that not allowing for a rebuttal may have legal consequences. a 'rebuttal' to the president of the united states? You must have missed the Democrat response to all of Bush's radio addresses and television addresses. why? are you afraid you're not an american citizen? Obama works for us, we don't work for him. If only it were true. |
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On Sep 3, 8:56*am, BAR wrote:
I have put a lot of effort into removing "um, like, you know" from my daughters speech. I would hate to see them regress after watching Obama speak extemporaneously. you could teach them to smirk, shuck and jive and use malapropisms like bush did. My wife and I will have to have the deprogramming discussion at the dinner table the evening of Obama "educational speech." the most incompetent speaker in history was george bush |
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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:56 am, BAR wrote: I have put a lot of effort into removing "um, like, you know" from my daughters speech. I would hate to see them regress after watching Obama speak extemporaneously. you could teach them to smirk, shuck and jive and use malapropisms like bush did. My wife and I will have to have the deprogramming discussion at the dinner table the evening of Obama "educational speech." the most incompetent speaker in history was george bush Ineloquent yes, incompetent no. Obama cannot be trusted to speak with his teleprompter. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:50 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:31 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 2:05 pm, wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:29 pm, Jordon wrote: SteveB wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. A speech focused on education, made by the President of the United States, should not be heard by students? -- Jordon amazing how paranoid the right wing is. I have requested that my child's school not take part in this in any way. I have asked that if they do to please provide equal time for a rebuttal and suggested that not allowing for a rebuttal may have legal consequences. a 'rebuttal' to the president of the united states? You must have missed the Democrat response to all of Bush's radio addresses and television addresses. i guess the GOP is afraid of schoolkids. why? are you afraid you're not an american citizen? Obama works for us, we don't work for him and you seem to think he works for the kremlin. Obama works towards Marxist idealism. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:47 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? FDR set the precedent. so it's OK when bush does it because FDR did it You disagree with the concept of legal precedent? but you're paranoid about obama speaking to schoolkids... Not paranoid, just afraid. uh...OK. i didn't realize how sick the right wing is, but you're educating me. Educating you is not something that I am interested in doing, nor do I believe that anyone is capable of doing. I just use your posts to put my ideas to paper. |
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On Sep 3, 9:22*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Sep 3, 8:47 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? FDR set the precedent. so it's OK when bush does it because FDR did it You disagree with the concept of legal precedent? so, of course, have supreme court justices, presidents, etc. stare decisis is not gospel..... sorry you don't know that. but you're paranoid about obama speaking to schoolkids... Not paranoid, just afraid. paranoid. uh...OK. i didn't realize how sick the right wing is, but you're educating me. Educating you is not something that I am interested in doing, nor do I believe that anyone is capable of doing. I just use your posts to put my ideas to paper. try toilet paper. it's appropriate for your ideas. |
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On Sep 3, 9:20*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: and you seem to think he works for the kremlin. Obama works towards Marxist idealism.- and bush was a disciple of fascism. |
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On Sep 3, 9:19*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Sep 3, 8:56 am, BAR wrote: I have put a lot of effort into removing "um, like, you know" from my daughters speech. I would hate to see them regress after watching Obama speak extemporaneously. you could teach them to smirk, shuck and jive and use malapropisms like bush did. My wife and I will have to have the deprogramming discussion at the dinner table the evening of Obama "educational speech." the most incompetent speaker in history was george bush Ineloquent yes, incompetent no. Obama cannot be trusted to speak with his teleprompter. bush couldn't be trusted to speak at all. every word he said, including 'and' and 'the' was a lie. and what particular act can you point to showing bush was competent? his mismanagement of the iraq war? the afghan war? his attack on the middle class? what about those events make you sit up and call him competent? |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:20:18 -0700, Jordon wrote: Frogwatch wrote: The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. What are you thoughts about Bush being in a classroom when the planes hit the towers? And do you know what he was doing there? Hint: he had a film crew with him. Jordon: He was invited to be there. How do you know he was invited? Doesn't really matter anyway. Are you saying that if the school administration invites the President to speak, then it's fine for the students to take a break from their normal activities to listen? Or is it only when the President has political views that differ from yours? -- Jordon |
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait
wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. *Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. *I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. *Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to the track for some work that day... Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky, she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:39:54 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Sep 2, 5:32*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 4:20*pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:35 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume *- *this is a fine example. -- uh...no. what it is is a comparison of IMAGINED evils (obama speaking to students) vs ACTUAL evils (suspension of the constitution) to show how the wheels have come off the far right trolley. Your choice, but ask yourself: why are you having a "discussion" with herring...an avowed racist?- yeah i know. but he's the current voice of the GOP. pathetic, aint it? Harry is an extremely important individual. You should heed his advice. he's right. the right is hopeless He's right about everything, except when he's lying. Then he's not right. Then he's left. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sep 3, 2:55*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:39:54 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 5:32*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 4:20*pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:35 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume *- *this is a fine example. -- uh...no. what it is is a comparison of IMAGINED evils (obama speaking to students) vs ACTUAL evils (suspension of the constitution) to show how the wheels have come off the far right trolley. Your choice, but ask yourself: why are you having a "discussion" with herring...an avowed racist?- yeah i know. but he's the current voice of the GOP. pathetic, aint it? Harry is an extremely important individual. You should heed his advice. he's right. the right is hopeless He's right about everything, except when he's lying. Then he's not right. Then he's left. -- since he's the worst pres in history he's either a liar or incompetent or an incompetent liar but hes still right wing. only a lunatic fringe idiot would call bush a leftie. know anyone like that? |
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 06:42:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Sep 3, 9:20*am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: and you seem to think he works for the kremlin. Obama works towards Marxist idealism.- and bush was a disciple of fascism. Hey nomdeplum - here's a fine example of 'Bush Rationale'. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:12:36 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Sep 3, 2:55*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:39:54 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 5:32*pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 4:20*pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 2:35 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 2, 1:07 pm, "SteveB" wrote: September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. *This is sick. Steve could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right wingers didn't have much to say then, did you? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume *- *this is a fine example. -- uh...no. what it is is a comparison of IMAGINED evils (obama speaking to students) vs ACTUAL evils (suspension of the constitution) to show how the wheels have come off the far right trolley. Your choice, but ask yourself: why are you having a "discussion" with herring...an avowed racist?- yeah i know. but he's the current voice of the GOP. pathetic, aint it? Harry is an extremely important individual. You should heed his advice. he's right. the right is hopeless He's right about everything, except when he's lying. Then he's not right. Then he's left. -- since he's the worst pres in history he's either a liar or incompetent or an incompetent liar but hes still right wing. only a lunatic fringe idiot would call bush a leftie. know anyone like that? The subject was Harry. Yes, Harry. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 06:42:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 3, 9:20 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: and you seem to think he works for the kremlin. Obama works towards Marxist idealism.- and bush was a disciple of fascism. Hey nomdeplum - here's a fine example of 'Bush Rationale'. It sounds more like an over-the-top comparison. Don't get me wrong, I hate Bush/Cheney/etc., but I don't think they are nazis. That would diminish the atrocity of 75M deaths associated with the original group. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 06:42:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 3, 9:20 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: and you seem to think he works for the kremlin. Obama works towards Marxist idealism.- and bush was a disciple of fascism. Hey nomdeplum - here's a fine example of 'Bush Rationale'. It sounds more like an over-the-top comparison. Don't get me wrong, I hate Bush/Cheney/etc., but I don't think they are nazis. That would diminish the atrocity of 75M deaths associated with the original group. It's possible for rightie extremists to be fascists without being nazis. |
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"H the K" wrote in message
... It's possible for rightie extremists to be fascists without being nazis. I believe Cheney falls under this description... "a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government" In some respects, this can be equated to "neocon" philosophy and "free-market" capitalism, whatever that means. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote:
John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to the track for some work that day... Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky, she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's. -- John H This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In 1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing much good for your credibility, John. Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much indoctrination is therein. Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama' *is* indoctrination. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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says... On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to the track for some work that day... Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky, she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's. -- John H This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In 1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing much good for your credibility, John. Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much indoctrination is therein. Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama' *is* indoctrination. What I am worried about is the "discussion" after the speech. Our teachers are kind of like the SEIU bullys, pushing their agenda on the kids. I have to straighten Jessi out all the time, and fill in the holes.. She is getting pretty good at doing it herself though, she knows which teachers have the "impeach Bush/torture Cheney" stickers on their cars... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
Let the brainwashing begin ..............
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to the track for some work that day... Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky, she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's. -- John H This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In 1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing much good for your credibility, John. Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much indoctrination is therein. Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama' *is* indoctrination. -- John H Uh, John, your GOP gurus have lied to you once again!!!!! That was changed a long time ago. It clearly is a letter to themselves about their educational goals. It's just that you guys, in your insanity over anything liberal, can't grasp that little fact.: PRESIDENT/STUDENT SPEECH FLAP-It seems innocuous enough. The President was going to kick off the unofficial start of the school year with a speech to the nation’s students, encouraging them to do their best. But an unexpected crush of criticism from parents, conservatives, and talk-radio seems to have turned this into one big headache. It certainly wasn’t anticipated-Jack Tapper, filing for WORLD NEWS, notes that “White House officials seem to have been caught completely flat-footed on this”. And it seems local school districts who are hearing from angry constituents are reacting-Tapper notes that “some school districts in Texas, Illinois, Virginia and Wisconsin are even refusing to show the President’s address.” What’s got everybody so riled up? Tapper again: “What seems to be drawing the most ire are these optional preparatory materials from the Department of Education asking students to ‘write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President’….that has now been changed for students to ‘write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term educational goals.” White House deputy policy director Heather Higginbottom told Tapper that the “goal of the speech is to encourage students to set goals for themselves”. The Administration is trying to lower the 30% drop-out rate in this country, Higginbottom added. So how did this get so politicized? Tapper notes that “President George HW Bush (spoke to students) in 1991 and Ronald Reagan even talked politics with students in 1988.” But this is different, at least to some folks. Tapper sez that “charges from Republican officials that President Obama is seeking to indoctrinate students-unsupported by any real evidence-have been flying.” But regardless of proof, the howl of protest is not going to be ignored by the White House. Tapper noted in his close that “the White House will release a text of the speech on Monday…so parents can see it as benign, about staying in school and personal responsibility.” |
Let the brainwashing begin ..............
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:58:07 -0400, NotNow wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to the track for some work that day... Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky, she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's. -- John H This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In 1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing much good for your credibility, John. Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much indoctrination is therein. Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama' *is* indoctrination. -- John H Uh, John, your GOP gurus have lied to you once again!!!!! That was changed a long time ago. It clearly is a letter to themselves about their educational goals. It's just that you guys, in your insanity over anything liberal, can't grasp that little fact.: '...a long time ago..'? How long ago, Loog? Yesterday? How many times did any other president push a 'lesson plan' to go with his speech? Hogwash. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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says... John H. wrote: On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech. Probably about how to snitch on their parents. This is scary. This is sick. Steve Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day! -- Nom=de=Plume I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know. We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political expressions, either stated or subliminal. Steve Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English language beyond recognition. Cracker jerk from the Utah bush. Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplume - hope you're watching.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow related to education and is not for political purposes.. Boo! The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!! Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address your kids on the merits of duck and cover? More 'Bush Rationale'. nomdeplum - you watching this? Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to the track for some work that day... Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky, she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's. -- John H This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In 1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing much good for your credibility, John. Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much indoctrination is therein. Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama' *is* indoctrination. -- John H Uh, John, your GOP gurus have lied to you once again!!!!! That was changed a long time ago. So, did they lie, or did the openness of the content get it changed? It clearly is a letter to themselves about their educational goals. It's just that you guys, in your insanity over anything liberal, can't grasp that little fact.: And do you really believe teachers won't send the letters anyway? With kids names and schools?? Remember "flag@whitehouse......."? Fact is, detractors got listed and sent e-mails, but of course all investigation on that has been stopped too, the Whitehouse is required to keep all info coming in. PRESIDENT/STUDENT SPEECH FLAP-It seems innocuous enough. The President was going to kick off the unofficial start of the school year with a speech to the nation?s students, encouraging them to do their best. But an unexpected crush of criticism from parents, conservatives, and talk-radio seems to have turned this into one big headache. It certainly wasn?t anticipated-Jack Tapper, filing for WORLD NEWS, notes that ?White House officials seem to have been caught completely flat-footed on this?. And it seems local school districts who are hearing from angry constituents are reacting-Tapper notes that ?some school districts in Texas, Illinois, Virginia and Wisconsin are even refusing to show the President?s address.? What?s got everybody so riled up? Tapper again: ?What seems to be drawing the most ire are these optional preparatory materials from the Department of Education asking students to ?write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President??.that has now been changed for students to ?write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term educational goals.? White House deputy policy director Heather Higginbottom told Tapper that the ?goal of the speech is to encourage students to set goals for themselves?. The Administration is trying to lower the 30% drop-out rate in this country, Higginbottom added. So how did this get so politicized? Tapper notes that ?President George HW Bush (spoke to students) in 1991 and Ronald Reagan even talked politics with students in 1988.? But this is different, at least to some folks. Tapper sez that ?charges from Republican officials that President Obama is seeking to indoctrinate students-unsupported by any real evidence-have been flying.? But regardless of proof, the howl of protest is not going to be ignored by the White House. Tapper noted in his close that ?the White House will release a text of the speech on Monday?so parents can see it as benign, about staying in school and personal responsibility.? -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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