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NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 02:09 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/



JustWait September 2nd 09 03:06 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/

Nobody doubts it happening, we just are listening to the other half of
he worlds scientists, who don't agree it's our fault and Mercury filled
green bulbs and ugly little cars are the solution...

--
Wafa free since 2009

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 03:24 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/

Nobody doubts it happening, we just are listening to the other half of
he worlds scientists, who don't agree it's our fault and Mercury filled
green bulbs and ugly little cars are the solution...


No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
think it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

H the K[_2_] September 2nd 09 03:37 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/

Nobody doubts it happening, we just are listening to the other half of
he worlds scientists, who don't agree it's our fault and Mercury filled
green bulbs and ugly little cars are the solution...



Half?

Moron.

JustWait September 2nd 09 03:38 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
think


Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...

it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.


It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.


--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait September 2nd 09 04:30 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,

|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
?global average temperatures have increased? during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that ?currently available scientific
evidence? substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


I would like to see a list of "climate scientists" stacked up against
the amount of grants they are receiving to do the research...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] September 2nd 09 04:41 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,

|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
?global average temperatures have increased? during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that ?currently available scientific
evidence? substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


I would like to see a list of "climate scientists" stacked up against
the amount of grants they are receiving to do the research...



What would an intellectual numnutz like you do with such a list?
You didn't even have the skills to hang onto a warehouse job...now you
want to judge the credentials of scientists?

Keith nuttle September 2nd 09 05:05 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
Gene wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,
|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
“global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific
evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html



"Climate" Scientists Agree on Warming, Disagree on Dangers, and Don’t
Trust the Media’s Coverage of Climate Change

If man has had any effects of the changing climate, it is in the form of
paved streets, parking lots, asphalt roofs, etc. not "Greenhouse Gases"
(I suspect the gases coming from the white house and democrats in
congress are doing more damage than greenhouse gases)

If you will look at the long term science studies like paleontology and
archeology, you will see that the temperatures current earth climate are
at a peak that has periodically occurred over the last several hundreds
of thousand years. If we had any thing to fear from the climate it
would be significant drops in temperature not warming as shown by those
studies.

Tom Francis - SWSports September 2nd 09 05:25 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/


Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.

JustWait September 2nd 09 05:44 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/

Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.


Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

--
Wafa free since 2009

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 06:19 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...

No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
think


Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...

I'm guessing in your eyes, just the ones that know and realize that it
is happening.


it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.


It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.



A "few"?????? Are you serious?

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 06:22 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.


Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".


For every article or quote that you have that says it isn't happening, I
can find several that say it is. Wanna bet? SO, again, you're saying
global warming ISN'T happening?

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 06:24 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.


Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".


OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??

John H.[_9_] September 2nd 09 06:25 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/



"The study echoed findings by scientists belonging to the U.N.
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change..."

Shoots their credibility out the friggin' window.

Good try, Loogy.
--
Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a
Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

John H

John H.[_9_] September 2nd 09 06:31 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:30:35 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,
|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
?global average temperatures have increased? during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that ?currently available scientific
evidence? substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


I would like to see a list of "climate scientists" stacked up against
the amount of grants they are receiving to do the research...


Exactly. I didn't see that as one of the questions. It's surely
pertinent.
--
Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a
Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

John H

John H.[_9_] September 2nd 09 07:38 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:24:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.


Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".


OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


It's those derailed logic trains that make many of your posts easily
ignorable.
--
Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a
Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

John H

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 07:53 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:30:35 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,

|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
?global average temperatures have increased? during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that ?currently available scientific
evidence? substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html

I would like to see a list of "climate scientists" stacked up against
the amount of grants they are receiving to do the research...


Exactly. I didn't see that as one of the questions. It's surely
pertinent.
--


And I'd like to see a list of anti-global warming scientists stacked up
against the amount of grants THEY receive.

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 07:56 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/



"The study echoed findings by scientists belonging to the U.N.
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change..."

Shoots their credibility out the friggin' window.

Good try, Loogy.
--

Pssssst, do you suppose that the research scientists that are
anti-global warming get grants? Of course they do!

Tom Francis - SWSports September 2nd 09 08:07 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:06:13 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,
|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
“global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific
evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


I give up - it's just not worth discussing with true believers.

Which is fine - you want to believe it, believe it.

Although I would point out that there must be more than 479 "climate"
scientists in the world.

John H.[_9_] September 2nd 09 08:15 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:53:52 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:30:35 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,

|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
?global average temperatures have increased? during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that ?currently available scientific
evidence? substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html
I would like to see a list of "climate scientists" stacked up against
the amount of grants they are receiving to do the research...


Exactly. I didn't see that as one of the questions. It's surely
pertinent.
--


And I'd like to see a list of anti-global warming scientists stacked up
against the amount of grants THEY receive.


Now *that's* pretty funny!
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

jps September 2nd 09 09:28 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:06:13 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,
|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
“global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific
evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


The Freak doesn't require facts or overwhelming consensus.

He's got faith.

H the K[_2_] September 2nd 09 09:42 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:06:13 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,
|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
“global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific
evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


The Freak doesn't require facts or overwhelming consensus.

He's got faith.



Sometimes I think SW Tom sends him stuff to post here, stuff so
*right-wingedly* stupid that Tom would be too embarrassed to post it
under his own handle.

jps September 2nd 09 10:04 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:42:39 -0400, H the K
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:06:13 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,
|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
“global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific
evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html


The Freak doesn't require facts or overwhelming consensus.

He's got faith.



Sometimes I think SW Tom sends him stuff to post here, stuff so
*right-wingedly* stupid that Tom would be too embarrassed to post it
under his own handle.


We all have our blind spots. The Freak's are dead center.

JustWait September 3rd 09 02:03 AM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.


Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".


For every article or quote that you have that says it isn't happening, I
can find several that say it is. Wanna bet? SO, again, you're saying
global warming ISN'T happening?


I really wish you would calm down and read some of our posts.. Nobody
here says it isn't happening, we just disagree with the new science that
says it's our fault even though it is based on false readings and only a
minute in history...

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait September 3rd 09 02:04 AM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.


Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".


OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] September 3rd 09 02:05 AM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:


I really wish you would calm down and read some of our posts.. Nobody
here says it isn't happening, we just disagree with the new science


You barely got out of high school with a diploma, if you did that, and
the only real job you had, working in a warehouse, you couldn't keep.
So...now you are Mr. Science?

Moron.

JustWait September 3rd 09 02:05 AM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/



"The study echoed findings by scientists belonging to the U.N.
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change..."

Shoots their credibility out the friggin' window.

Good try, Loogy.
--

Pssssst, do you suppose that the research scientists that are
anti-global warming get grants? Of course they do!


Doubt it...

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait September 3rd 09 02:06 AM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:30:35 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:38:07 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|In article ,

|says...
|
| No where NEAR "half" of scientists that are studying global warming
| think
|
|Although I agree with the statement so far.... Anyway, there in lies the
|problem.. Most "scientists who are studying global taxing" are deeply
|vested in the economics of studying the issue. That is to say, if there
|is no Global Taxing, they are out of work... snerk...
|
| it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases that man is spewing
| into the atmosphere. It's amazing that the GOP chooses to heed the words
| of a very few scientists that have a GOP agenda rather than listen to
| the WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.
|
|It's a shame the DNC chooses to heed the words of a very few "however
|vocal" scientists that have a "green" agenda rather than listen to the
|WHOLE STORY and then make an intelligent decision.

Your talking points are showing, but they are fairly devoid of facts.

Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe
?global average temperatures have increased? during the past century.

Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming
is occurring, and 74% agree that ?currently available scientific
evidence? substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human
activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are
unsure.
http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html
I would like to see a list of "climate scientists" stacked up against
the amount of grants they are receiving to do the research...


Exactly. I didn't see that as one of the questions. It's surely
pertinent.
--


And I'd like to see a list of anti-global warming scientists stacked up
against the amount of grants THEY receive.


Me too. Who is funding them? We know George Soros, and the UN are
funding the advocates... And of course we know the UN is about as
dependable as a junkie with a fresh bag...

--
Wafa free since 2009

NotNow[_3_] September 3rd 09 02:24 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?

NotNow[_3_] September 3rd 09 02:25 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/


"The study echoed findings by scientists belonging to the U.N.
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change..."

Shoots their credibility out the friggin' window.

Good try, Loogy.
--

Pssssst, do you suppose that the research scientists that are
anti-global warming get grants? Of course they do!


Doubt it...

Then how are they able to do research?

JustWait September 3rd 09 03:36 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?


Sure... The earth is going through it's normal cycle. So is the reef...

--
Wafa free since 2009

NotNow[_3_] September 3rd 09 04:20 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??
You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?


Sure... The earth is going through it's normal cycle. So is the reef...


And you're sure of this how? And this is the only reason and your sure
of that how? Now, my question, which you've failed to answer is this:
You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??

JustWait September 3rd 09 04:28 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??
You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?


Sure... The earth is going through it's normal cycle. So is the reef...


And you're sure of this how? And this is the only reason and your sure
of that how? Now, my question, which you've failed to answer is this:
You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


Right... It is just as certain it is moon beams doing it... snerk
Think cycles, remember, the earths temp moves up and down all the time.
The fact that Al Gore and many others have to use made up science in
their propaganda films should tell you something...

--
Wafa free since 2009

NotNow[_3_] September 3rd 09 04:38 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??
You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?
Sure... The earth is going through it's normal cycle. So is the reef...

And you're sure of this how? And this is the only reason and your sure
of that how? Now, my question, which you've failed to answer is this:
You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


Right... It is just as certain it is moon beams doing it... snerk
Think cycles, remember, the earths temp moves up and down all the time.
The fact that Al Gore and many others have to use made up science in
their propaganda films should tell you something...

Maybe you're special interests just got a little more interesting.....

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Exxon...s-115642.shtml

Seems as though Exxon needs to pay scientists to say global warming
isn't man made.....

John H.[_9_] September 3rd 09 09:20 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:38:24 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??
You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?
Sure... The earth is going through it's normal cycle. So is the reef...

And you're sure of this how? And this is the only reason and your sure
of that how? Now, my question, which you've failed to answer is this:
You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??


Right... It is just as certain it is moon beams doing it... snerk
Think cycles, remember, the earths temp moves up and down all the time.
The fact that Al Gore and many others have to use made up science in
their propaganda films should tell you something...

Maybe you're special interests just got a little more interesting.....

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Exxon...s-115642.shtml

Seems as though Exxon needs to pay scientists to say global warming
isn't man made.....


Why not when you've got the liberals funding the other side of the
issue? To whom do you think Soros is giving money, both sides?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

NotNow[_3_] September 4th 09 02:05 PM

Don't these scientists know this isn't happening?
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:38:24 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:09:55 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Stupid scientists! Apparently they aren't listening to the people that
really know and understand this stuff, conservative politicians and
Rush! If they did, they'd know that despite evidence, this isn't happeneing:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...USTRALIA-REEF/
Pesky little facts - they just keep getting in the way don't they?

"The five-yearly reef outlook report, aimed at benchmarking the health
of the reef, found climate change, declining water quality from
coastal runoff, development and illegal fishing were the biggest
dangers to the reef."

Let's dissect that paragraph:

1 - Climate Change - check.

2 - Polluted water runoff - check.

3 - Development - check.

4 - Illegal fishing - check.

One out of four - that's 25% of the total problem. If I were looking
at this, I might think that there are a lot more problems with the
reef than just climate change.

Why one could almost believe that if the other 75% of the problems
were solved, then maybe the reef might survive.

Here's an interesting little blurb:

"The report, prepared by Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
scientists, says damage will occur from issues such as climate change,
nutrient overload and over-fishing but, if well managed, the ecosystem
should survive better than most other reefs."

Hmmm - nutrient overload and over-fishing. 2/3rds of the problem.
Wonder how that would affect the health of the reef if those were
solved?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-3102,00.html

But wait - there's more!!!

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/corp_site/k...nfluences.html

Read the non-global warming parts - very interesting. In particular
the part about shipping: groundings, ballast discharge, oil spills,
litter and sewage discharge.

It would appear that "global warming" plays a very minor role in the
problems facing the Great Barrier Reef.

But wait - there's more!!!

http://exoticanimallover.com/2009/02...-barrier-reef/

Pesky little critter huh?

Ah science - gotta love it.
Boy, great post and I bet it took a lot more work than just spewing
bumper sticker ads saying "most scientists, settled science, etc...".

OH, I get it!!! You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??
You need to get up to speed... It's not Global warming anymore, it's
climate change.. Since the world is getting cooler for the last ten
years or so...

Could you answer my question?
Sure... The earth is going through it's normal cycle. So is the reef...

And you're sure of this how? And this is the only reason and your sure
of that how? Now, my question, which you've failed to answer is this:
You think that because the Great Barrier Reef is having
other problems, that it couldn't POSSIBLY be suffering because of global
warming...right??
Right... It is just as certain it is moon beams doing it... snerk
Think cycles, remember, the earths temp moves up and down all the time.
The fact that Al Gore and many others have to use made up science in
their propaganda films should tell you something...

Maybe you're special interests just got a little more interesting.....

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Exxon...s-115642.shtml

Seems as though Exxon needs to pay scientists to say global warming
isn't man made.....


Why not when you've got the liberals funding the other side of the
issue? To whom do you think Soros is giving money, both sides?
--
John H


Oh, I forgot!!!! It's okay for conservatives to take money from special
interests, but it's NOT okay for liberals to do same....


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