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On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.


My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?


Title 9, Ted Kennedy. We're indebted to him despite his faults.


"It is difficult to characterize the impact of Title IX on athletics
in an unbiased way. Advocates cite increases in female athletic
participation; however, such increases might have occurred in the
absence of legislation."
[...]
"The law was renamed as the Patsy T. Mink Equal Opportunity in
Education Act on October 29, 2002, upon the death of the law's
principal author, Congresswoman Patsy T. Mink. It was also written by
Oregon Congresswoman Edith Green."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX

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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:30:55 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.


My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?


Title 9, Ted Kennedy. We're indebted to him despite his faults.


"It is difficult to characterize the impact of Title IX on athletics
in an unbiased way. Advocates cite increases in female athletic
participation; however, such increases might have occurred in the
absence of legislation."
[...]
"The law was renamed as the Patsy T. Mink Equal Opportunity in
Education Act on October 29, 2002, upon the death of the law's
principal author, Congresswoman Patsy T. Mink. It was also written by
Oregon Congresswoman Edith Green."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX



Teddy was instrumental in getting it through.

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Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.


My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?


Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.

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On Aug 31, 10:02*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.


My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?


Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.


My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
it's very minimal.

My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
too much money, so we pay the bills.
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Aug 31, 10:02*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.


My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?


Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.


My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
it's very minimal.

My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
too much money, so we pay the bills.


Be fair, Tim. Why insert that inconvenient little wrinkle into the
debate?

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On Aug 31, 11:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Aug 31, 10:02*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.


My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?


Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.


My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
it's very minimal.


My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
too much money, so we pay the bills.


Be fair, Tim. *Why insert that inconvenient little wrinkle into the
debate?

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Well, I guess to make the debate more enticing?
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Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 10:02 pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.
My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?

Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.


My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
it's very minimal.

My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
too much money, so we pay the bills.



And without Title IX, the girls' volleyball team would still be an
afterthought...a gym class kind of operation.
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On Sep 1, 4:51*am, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 10:02 pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
Thank a liberal.
My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
liberal or conservative?
Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.


My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
it's very minimal.


My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
too much money, so we pay the bills.


And without Title IX, the girls' volleyball team would still be an
afterthought...a gym class kind of operation.


I know you'd like to think that, Harry.
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Gene wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Aug 31, 10:02 pm, H the K wrote:
| Tim wrote:
| On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
| Thank a liberal.
|
| My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
| liberal or conservative?
|
| Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
| IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
| throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
| they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
| there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.
|
|My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
|it's very minimal.
|
|My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
|too much money, so we pay the bills.

Title IX is not about money.... it is about discrimination based on
sex. Think about men's athletics vs. women's athletics, when you were
in school.... any difference in funding from the school?

Now, the hammer is that if the school receives Federal Assistance, the
school can't treat the girls that way.

I guess, if you want to create a school and pay your own way, you can
be as discriminatory as you wish....



I suppose they exist, but I cannot offhand think of any decent colleges
or universities that receive "no federal assistance." Even if they have
students with federal grants, the schools are receiving federal assistance.
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On Sep 1, 11:06*am, H the K wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|On Aug 31, 10:02 pm, H the K wrote:
| Tim wrote:
| On Aug 31, 9:47 am, H the K wrote:
| Thank a liberal.
|
| My daughter is in collegiate sports, why should she thank either
| liberal or conservative?
|
| Without Democrat Patsy Mink, who wrote the legislation that became Title
| IX, and without Ted Kennedy, who protected Title IX and advocated for it
| throughout his career, women's athletics at universities would be where
| they were 40 years ago...an underfunded afterthought. Without Title IX,
| there would be virtually no athletic assistance for women attending college.
|
|My daughters school doesn't receive federal assistance, and if they do
|it's very minimal.
|
|My daughter receives no federal assistance because the wife and I make
|too much money, so we pay the bills.


Title IX is not about money.... it is about discrimination based on
sex. Think about men's athletics vs. women's athletics, when you were
in school.... any difference in funding from the school?


Now, the hammer is that if the school receives Federal Assistance, the
school can't treat the girls that way.


I guess, if you want to create a school and pay your own way, you can
be as discriminatory as you wish....


I suppose they exist, but I cannot offhand think of any decent colleges
or universities that receive "no federal assistance." Even if they have
students with federal grants, the schools are receiving federal assistance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Depends on what you call a "decent" school, Harry.

Oh and if the students recieve federal and state grants, then the
schools do too?

I suppose that applies to all the schools vendors as well. Even the
power company that feeds the school electricity....




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