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Frogwatch[_2_] August 31st 09 06:39 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:



On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:


and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich


Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *


and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.


The reality is that the best way to get out of


paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.


or a rich GOP member


**Obviously, only the


proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.


of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work


**You can


also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care


and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.


*while they and the UAW get the


best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-


the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way


what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it


Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.


Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over. Maybe he is saying that the Bush admin did no torture as Obama
said he would not use torture and no change has taken place regarding
detainees. Libs are never clear because they are essentially incapable
of reasoning.

H the K[_2_] August 31st 09 06:42 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
Frogwatch wrote:
Libs are never clear because they are essentially incapable
of reasoning.


Said crazyman Froggie to the intake counselor at the Florida State
Hospital (for the mentally incompetent).

John H.[_9_] August 31st 09 06:51 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:

On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:


and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich


Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *


and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.

The reality is that the best way to get out of

paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.


or a rich GOP member

**Obviously, only the

proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.


of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work

**You can

also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care


and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.

*while they and the UAW get the

best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-


the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way

what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it


Cite please. Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.


Don't forget threats with unloaded weapons, and threats to 'get your
family'. Those are *severe* torture.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

wf3h August 31st 09 07:09 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:


the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way


what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it


Cite please. *


ever hear of dick cheney? know what he's been saying the last few
days?

and, i might ask you to cite your crap as well.

Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes.


well let's see...if i have a choice of a govt official not paying
taxes, or having those folks arrest me and throw me in prison with no
charges, like they did to jose padilla...

i'll let 'em skip on the taxes

*Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.


perhaps you're forgetting that reagan cut taxes on the rich so they
pay about half of what normal people do.


So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.


i just did. jose padilla. and the loyal, patriotic chinese american
soldier who went to gitmo to interview prisoners there...then was
himself accused of being a spy...drummed out of the service...and
mysteriously all charges dropped...alberto gonzalez, former AG...who
wrote the memo saying torture was legal even thought it's not...

IOW you have a selective memory. you think obama's been president for
the last 8 years. hate to shock you when you've just come out of your
coma, but that ain't true.

OR the alternative is you dont care WHAT abuses the rich and powerful
do...so long as they dont take from the rich and give to the middle
class.


I have health care


how nice. until, of course, you lose your job...another way the GOP
controls you

and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.-


ROFLMAO!!! more kool aid!! you guys are AMAZING...you don't think at
all, do you? you have your little fairy tales and you think all is
right 'cuz god made the rich be rich and that's fine with you

you IDIOT...tort reform will do NOTHING....NOTHING to solve the health
care problem. not a damn thing.

but, you go ahead. you keep sucking the tit of the rich...buying the
garbage they tell you to believe. it's apparent you never DID learn to
think for yourself.

wf3h August 31st 09 07:10 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Aug 31, 1:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:





On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:


On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:


and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich


Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *


and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.


The reality is that the best way to get out of


paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.


or a rich GOP member


**Obviously, only the


proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.


of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work


**You can


also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore..
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care


and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.


*while they and the UAW get the


best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-


the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way


what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it


Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.


Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over.


really? how many folks were tortured under obama? thrown into prison
without due process?

none.


Frogwatch[_2_] August 31st 09 07:52 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Aug 31, 2:10*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:


On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:


and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich


Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *


and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.


The reality is that the best way to get out of


paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.


or a rich GOP member


**Obviously, only the


proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.


of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work


**You can


also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care


and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.


*while they and the UAW get the


best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-


the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way


what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it


Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.


Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over.


really? how many folks were tortured under obama? thrown into prison
without due process?

none.


Padilla WAS charged and DID get due process despite your not knowing
anything about the case.
Who is this mysterious chinese at Gitmo you refer to?
Once again, telling the mastermind of 9/11 that you will kill his kids
IF another attack occurs and he does not talk is not torture. You do
not seem to be able to cite any instances of torture.
So, tort reform will do nothing about health care costs? Do you think
that defensive medicine is practiced by nearly all physicians for no
reason? How many tests are ordered just so a physician is covering
his ass in case of a suit?
You do not seem to be able to back up your case in any way at all.
Obama has not changed any of the "Extraordinary Rendition" practices
that the Bush admin used. He said he would but has backed down on
every one. Clearly Obama thinks Bush was right in what he did.
Meanwhile, Obama plots to steal from the middle class and give to his
cronies at the UAW. Actually, he already did commit the greatest
wealth transfer in history.

wf3h August 31st 09 09:29 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Aug 31, 2:52*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:10*pm, wf3h wrote:





On Aug 31, 1:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:


On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:


On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:


and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich


Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *


and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.


The reality is that the best way to get out of


paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.


or a rich GOP member


**Obviously, only the


proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.


of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions....all
in a day's work


**You can


also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care


and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.


*while they and the UAW get the


best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-


the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way


what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it


Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.


Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over.


really? how many folks were tortured under obama? thrown into prison
without due process?


none.


Padilla WAS charged and DID get due process despite your not knowing
anything about the case.


ROFLMAO!! after 4 years of solitary confinement!! is that what you
rednecks consider a 'speedy trial' as GUARANTEED by the constitution?

oh. you guys don't do constitutional law. it's all about power

Who is this mysterious chinese at Gitmo you refer to?


here. check it out for yourself and see how your redneck buddies
accused a soldier of being a traitor then dropped all charges:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Yee

you guys are truly dishonorable

Once again, telling the mastermind of 9/11 that you will kill his kids
IF another attack occurs and he does not talk is not torture. *You do
not seem to be able to cite any instances of torture.


is there any act of torture...any subversion of the constitution you
right wingers dont use all the while bitching about how the middle
class is gaining power at the expense of the rich?

So, tort reform will do nothing about health care costs? *Do you think
that defensive medicine is practiced by nearly all physicians for no
reason? *How many tests are ordered just so a physician is covering
his ass in case of a suit?


hey moron. try looking at the DATA instead of dumping your diaper
contents all over the discussion. malpractice costs are less than ONE
PERCENT of health care costs

i KNOW you right wingers like your little fantasies, but for those of
us who live in the real world it's pathetic watching you spew your
hatred of working folks while telling us to shut up and support
welfare for the rich


You do not seem to be able to back up your case in any way at all.
Obama has not changed any of the "Extraordinary Rendition" practices
that the Bush admin used.


and how many times has he used them?

none. how many american citizens have been arrested w/o due process?
none. how many soldiers accused of sedition with charges later
dropped? none

IOW obama's doing NOTHING that bush did...


*He said he would but has backed down on
every one. *Clearly Obama thinks Bush was right in what he did.
Meanwhile, Obama plots to steal from the middle class and give to his
cronies at the UAW.


ROFLMAO!! i'd rather have it go to the UAW than to shearson lehman,
bear stearns, BofA, etc....at least WORKING CLASS americans would get
money. YOU RICH RIGHT WINGERS hate the middle class which is why you
hate the UAW and LOVE bear stearns!

*Actually, he already did commit the greatest
wealth transfer in history.-


nope. that was reagan. the weatlthy in this country now own more of
its assets than in any time in US history

again you are believing the fairy tales told to you by the rich

Tim August 31st 09 10:19 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
Hey Wayne, let's whup up a couple bags of popcorn.


This is getting good and ridiculous.

Wayne.B September 1st 09 12:56 AM

Only proles pay taxes
 
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Hey Wayne, let's whup up a couple bags of popcorn.


This is getting good and ridiculous.


Same old, same old...

I'd put the frog in the KF except that he does post on topic every now
and then and he's not totally over the edge (just teetering). :-)


NotNow[_3_] September 1st 09 02:17 PM

Only proles pay taxes
 
Tim wrote:
Hey Wayne, let's whup up a couple bags of popcorn.


This is getting good and ridiculous.


You ain't kidding there!


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