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Frogwatch August 29th 09 05:14 AM

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Liberals believe this is acceptable behavior toward women if you are a
rich Dem Senator. This goes to the heart of the debate over health
care. Would you trust someone who believes this is acceptable to run
health care? I think a person who could imagine "Teddy" is an ok
person is incapable of making moral judgements and is disqualified for
holding any public office. Why not just have Jeffrey Dahmer as
surgeon general? Since about half the country thinks Kennedy was an
ok guy, I have to conclude there is a serious moral illness afoot in
the USA that renders half the population incapable of moral
judgement. How we got in this situation, I am not sure but I think it
may be that technology wielded by people who are capable of moral
judgement has allowed those with faulty judgement to thrive where
without technology they would have died. Thus, we have liberalism
running the nation. Because we somehow have people who have
demonstrated they do not have the moral judgement that humans should
have running the govt, I do not think the rest of us should accept
this at all and in fact should throw them out by any means necessary.
It is similar to allowing the insane to run the asylum, Somebody has
to exercise judgement and they cannot.

wf3h August 29th 09 05:29 AM

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On Aug 29, 12:14*am, Frogwatch wrote:
Liberals believe this is acceptable behavior toward women if you are a
rich Dem Senator. *This goes to the heart of the debate over health
care. *Would you trust someone who believes this is acceptable to run
health care? *I think a person who could imagine "Teddy" is an ok
person is incapable of making moral judgements and is disqualified for
holding any public office. *Why not just have Jeffrey Dahmer as
surgeon general?


rednecks believe it's acceptable to arrest american citizens on
american soil, hold them in prison, incommunicado, no consultation
with an attorney until they go insane. rednecks also believe it's
fine to suspend habeas corpus in the guise of 'protecting national
security'

IOW conservatives think the constitution doesn't apply to their will
to power


Tim August 29th 09 05:38 AM

Screw em, get em drunk and drown em like rats
 
On Aug 28, 11:29*pm, wf3h wrote:

rednecks believe it's acceptable to arrest american citizens on
american soil, hold them in prison, incommunicado, no consultation
with an attorney until they go insane. *rednecks also believe it's
fine to suspend habeas corpus in the guise of 'protecting national
security'

IOW conservatives think the constitution doesn't apply to their will
to power


Wow, I didn't know that FDR was a conservative redneck.

http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/j...ment_camps.htm

Frogwatch August 29th 09 05:54 AM

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On Aug 29, 12:38*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 28, 11:29*pm, wf3h wrote:

rednecks believe it's acceptable to arrest american citizens on
american soil, hold them in prison, incommunicado, no consultation
with an attorney until they go insane. *rednecks also believe it's
fine to suspend habeas corpus in the guise of 'protecting national
security'


IOW conservatives think the constitution doesn't apply to their will
to power


Wow, I didn't know that FDR was a conservative redneck.

http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/j...ment_camps.htm


I accept the title "redneck" but have never been conservative. I
consider myself to be a "True Progressive" whereas most "liberals" are
more conservative than George Wallace and more "conservatives" are
actually more liberal than "liberals"

[email protected] August 29th 09 06:18 AM

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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:14:31 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Liberals believe this is acceptable behavior toward women if you are a
rich Dem Senator. This goes to the heart of the debate over health
care. Would you trust someone who believes this is acceptable to run
health care? I think a person who could imagine "Teddy" is an ok
person is incapable of making moral judgements and is disqualified for
holding any public office. Why not just have Jeffrey Dahmer as
surgeon general? Since about half the country thinks Kennedy was an
ok guy, I have to conclude there is a serious moral illness afoot in
the USA that renders half the population incapable of moral
judgement. How we got in this situation, I am not sure but I think it
may be that technology wielded by people who are capable of moral
judgement has allowed those with faulty judgement to thrive where
without technology they would have died. Thus, we have liberalism
running the nation. Because we somehow have people who have
demonstrated they do not have the moral judgement that humans should
have running the govt, I do not think the rest of us should accept
this at all and in fact should throw them out by any means necessary.
It is similar to allowing the insane to run the asylum, Somebody has
to exercise judgement and they cannot.


George Washington had an answer;

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political
prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain
would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to
subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of
the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the
pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not
trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it
simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation,
for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which
are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us
with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained
without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined
education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both
forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of
religious principle.

It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring
of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less
force to every species of free government. Who that is a sincere
friend to it can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the
foundation of the fabric?"

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

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[email protected] August 29th 09 06:23 AM

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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:54:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 29, 12:38*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 28, 11:29*pm, wf3h wrote:

rednecks believe it's acceptable to arrest american citizens on
american soil, hold them in prison, incommunicado, no consultation
with an attorney until they go insane. *rednecks also believe it's
fine to suspend habeas corpus in the guise of 'protecting national
security'


IOW conservatives think the constitution doesn't apply to their will
to power


Wow, I didn't know that FDR was a conservative redneck.

http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/j...ment_camps.htm


I accept the title "redneck" but have never been conservative. I
consider myself to be a "True Progressive" whereas most "liberals" are
more conservative than George Wallace and more "conservatives" are
actually more liberal than "liberals"


You're a classical liberal?

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wf3h August 29th 09 11:20 AM

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On Aug 29, 12:38*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 28, 11:29*pm, wf3h wrote:

rednecks believe it's acceptable to arrest american citizens on
american soil, hold them in prison, incommunicado, no consultation
with an attorney until they go insane. *rednecks also believe it's
fine to suspend habeas corpus in the guise of 'protecting national
security'


IOW conservatives think the constitution doesn't apply to their will
to power


Wow, I didn't know that FDR was a conservative redneck.

http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/j...ment_camps.htm


IOW you conservatives dont even know your history

figures

wf3h August 29th 09 11:23 AM

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On Aug 29, 1:18*am, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:14:31 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
Liberals believe this is acceptable behavior toward women if you are a
rich Dem Senator. *This goes to the heart of the debate over health
care. *Would you trust someone who believes this is acceptable to run
health care? *I think a person who could imagine "Teddy" is an ok
person is incapable of making moral judgements and is disqualified for
holding any public office. *Why not just have Jeffrey Dahmer as
surgeon general? *Since about half the country thinks Kennedy was an
ok guy, I have to conclude there is a serious moral illness afoot in
the USA that renders half the population incapable of moral
judgement. *How we got in this situation, I am not sure but I think it
may be that technology wielded by people who are capable of moral
judgement has allowed those with faulty judgement to thrive where
without technology they would have died. *Thus, we have liberalism
running the nation. *Because we somehow have people who have
demonstrated they do not have the moral judgement that humans should
have running the govt, I do not think the rest of us should accept
this at all and in fact should throw them out by any means necessary.
It is similar to allowing the insane to run the asylum, Somebody has
to exercise judgement and they cannot.


George Washington had an answer;

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political
prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports


well he was half wrong. religion is useless


Where is the security for property, for reputation,
for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which
are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ?


9/11 showed us how useful religion is


Tim August 29th 09 02:07 PM

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On Aug 29, 5:20*am, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 29, 12:38*am, Tim wrote:

On Aug 28, 11:29*pm, wf3h wrote:


rednecks believe it's acceptable to arrest american citizens on
american soil, hold them in prison, incommunicado, no consultation
with an attorney until they go insane. *rednecks also believe it's
fine to suspend habeas corpus in the guise of 'protecting national
security'


IOW conservatives think the constitution doesn't apply to their will
to power


Wow, I didn't know that FDR was a conservative redneck.


http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/j...ment_camps.htm


IOW you conservatives dont even know *your history

figures


Well, how about you educate us or is that too far below your order?

Tim August 29th 09 02:08 PM

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On Aug 29, 5:23*am, wf3h wrote:


well he was half wrong. religion is useless



I'm sure that to you, it is.


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