Edward "Ted" Kennedy gone...
 

"Jordon" wrote in message
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JLH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:40:21 -0700, Jordon
Katie Ohara wrote:

If I am ever in MA, I will make a real attempt to spit on his grave
Spit on anyones grave in Arlington Cemetery (which is where
he's going) and I'm sure there will be plenty of people
around that will make sure that you see the error of your
ways.

Guards do not patrol the cemetery. Only the tomb of the unknown
soldier is guarded. There may be people walking around, but not to
enforce appropriate behavior.

I'm well aware of the type of people you find at Arlington
and I wasn't talking about guards. I was talking about all
the living veterans that are there visiting that would not
take too kindly to someone spitting on the grave of a fellow
veteran.

I was not in the military but I have been to Arlington. I'm
not a religious guy but it was probably the closest thing to
a "religious experience" that I've ever had, and if I saw
someone spitting on the grave of a veteran, no matter their
political affiliation, at the very least, there would be
words exchanged.

--
Jordon

I think there may be one or two vets who'd like to share a chaw with Teddy.
Well, the spit part, anyway.

And you know, the number is probably higher than two.

And yeah, I bet you'd really give those veterans a what for. Right before
you got your ass kicked, that is.

Steve

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"J" wrote in message
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Lu Powell wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

Ted Kennedy was a veteran.

Well, sort of. Right after he was expelled from Harvard for cheating, he
enlisted for four years, then got the old man to get his hitch shortened
to two. While most Army recruits were headed to Korea and other hot
spots, Kennedy went to France. After two years service, he was still a
Private.



Give the guy credit for whatever amount of time he was willing to spend
serving his country. I heard on one of the news wires it was more like 16
months.

OMIGAWD, I'd rather spend four years in country with the LURPs in Nam than
do sixteen months in France. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

Steve

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Kennedy spent 47 years serving his country in the U.S. Senate. You left
that Carolina PD after a few years. And your departure was "sudden."

Ted Kennedy spent 47 years serving himself at a public trough.

Steve

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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"JLH" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:00:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

There's no excuse. Just because one person does something horrible, that
doesn't make it ok for others.



Well...I guess we won't be hearing any more of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Loogy, w3fh, jps, Harry,---- are you watching? Ole plum guy made a
great point.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson


Not sure what you mean by the Bush Rationale, since Bush's "rationale" was
based on a twisted notion of religion mixed with failed economics and
fear-stoking actions.

If you'd like to debate things that Obama has done or not done that are
good or not good for the country, and you're willing to actually cite
verifiable facts, there's room for discussion. There are plenty of facts
from Bush's 8 years worthy of debate, including some things that might be
construed as "good" for America (in my opinion of course). A quick example
is the African AIDS program (except for the insertion of "abstinance"
requirements). There are a plethora of facts/decisions he and his admin
made that were terrible (my opinion and the demonstrable results)... no
need to repeat them, as I'm sure we're all familar with them.

Bush was in power for almost a decade. Obama has been in power for 3/4 of
a year. It's kind of hard to equate the two in any rational way.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Would doing the math on the deficit and spending count?

Steve

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Don White wrote:
"Jeem" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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A true American - he knew tragedy and triumph, he was the best of us
and the worst of us.
Hard to believe... the Kennedys always seemed bigger than life...


Hard to believe? What's that supposed to mean?

Stick your head up your ass... the answer is there.



Nice response, dummy. Are you proud of yourself? The guy was a drunk
and let a woman die. Only his head was "bigger than life".

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Jeem wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 26, 9:43 am, Jeem wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Jeem" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
messagenews:8e3a9515gm7dvj44salce1g4o7k5ko7uga@4ax .com...
A true American - he knew tragedy and triumph, he was the best of us
and the worst of us.
Hard to believe... the Kennedys always seemed bigger than life...
Hard to believe? What's that supposed to mean?
Stick your head up your ass... the answer is there.
Don't get all huffy Donny. It is often difficult to make sense out of
your comments.

I consider it an insult to be lumped in with a coward like Ted
Kennedy. I hope he suffered no more and no less than Miss Kopechne
and I hope his hypocrisy is judged fairly in any afterlife.

It is unkind to speak ill of the dead but be consoled in the fact that
he is no longer a burden on the taxpayer.

This geezer should be joining his friend very soon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rOZzpn1O3o

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Don White wrote:
"U-joint Buster" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:35:22 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 26, 10:28 am, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 26, 9:43 am, Jeem wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Jeem" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote
in
messagenews:8e3a9515gm7dvj44salce1g4o7k5ko7uga@4ax .com...
A true American - he knew tragedy and triumph, he was the best of
us
and the worst of us.
Hard to believe... the Kennedys always seemed bigger than life...
Hard to believe? What's that supposed to mean?
Stick your head up your ass... the answer is there.
Don't get all huffy Donny. It is often difficult to make sense out of
your comments.
I consider it an insult to be lumped in with a coward like Ted
Kennedy. I hope he suffered no more and no less than Miss Kopechne
and I hope his hypocrisy is judged fairly in any afterlife.
Of course, he's a liberal. I'm betting that if he was a conservative,
he'd be forgiven, correct?
Nobody forgives Ted Stevens (Rep. AK) for his corruption. We all
consider the Rep. Governor of SC to be a joke. As your charge of
hypocrisy is baseless, I think that you have made the charge because
you know that Dems are hypocrites and you accept it.
I am sorry to hear that Krause has lost respect for you.

That pains me more than the loss of Ted Kennedy. Maybe I spent too
much time listening to him on C-Span. The story Tom told, about the
graveside visits, was touching, But ...
--
John H


How many military funeral services do you go to Colonel Klink?
We don't count golfing days.



He's not a politician, dummy.

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Don White wrote:
"JLH" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT), Katie Ohara
wrote:

On Aug 26, 4:13 pm, Tim wrote:
During election time, Sen. Ted Kennedy is the first one in the polling
place . He draws the curtain shut, and is in there for a couple hours.
One of the election judges asks another what's going on?

Hey what's up with the Senator?

I don't know.

Well, go find out.

OK.

So a judge walks up to the booth to inqui

"Excuse me Senator, are you OK?"

"Yeah, whats the problem.?"

"Well Senator, we're concerned that you've been in there for almost
two hours.."

"So? I'm just getting started."

"Well Senator, I'm not trying to rush you, but there are others who
need the booth to vote as well."

Then the embarassed Senator said:

"Vote? Oh my! I thought this was a Confessional!"

All joking aside. Even though we're on the oposite sides of the isle,
thank you for your long lasting service to the country Senator. You
will be missed.
If I am ever in MA, I will make a real attempt to spit on his grave in
the name of all those who died as a result of his corruption and
misguided ideas. I would be neutral toward Jack Kennedy's grave, he
was simply stupid. I have no feelings about Robert Kennedy. However,
Ted is deserving of a special sort of contempt. Hey, maybe I can get
arrested for spitting on his grave, that'd be cool.
Now, if only Barney Frank would get Kaposi's sarcoma............
He's going to be buried in Arlington Cemetery. That's reason enough
for me *not* to be buried there.

Quantico National Cemetery is looking better and better.
--
John H


I think Arlington is for heros and those who went above & beyond the call of
duty.
What did you achieve in Vietnam... besides applying a little friendly fire
to keep US troops on their toes.
I don't think sucking on Uncle Sams teat is enough to earn a place for you.



"I don't think"...

You got that right, at least. Go paint the dog and walk the house, dummy.

Edward "Ted" Kennedy gone...
 

"D 2" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"JLH" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT), Katie Ohara
wrote:

On Aug 26, 4:13 pm, Tim wrote:
During election time, Sen. Ted Kennedy is the first one in the polling
place . He draws the curtain shut, and is in there for a couple hours.
One of the election judges asks another what's going on?

Hey what's up with the Senator?

I don't know.

Well, go find out.

OK.

So a judge walks up to the booth to inqui

"Excuse me Senator, are you OK?"

"Yeah, whats the problem.?"

"Well Senator, we're concerned that you've been in there for almost
two hours.."

"So? I'm just getting started."

"Well Senator, I'm not trying to rush you, but there are others who
need the booth to vote as well."

Then the embarassed Senator said:

"Vote? Oh my! I thought this was a Confessional!"

All joking aside. Even though we're on the oposite sides of the isle,
thank you for your long lasting service to the country Senator. You
will be missed.
If I am ever in MA, I will make a real attempt to spit on his grave in
the name of all those who died as a result of his corruption and
misguided ideas. I would be neutral toward Jack Kennedy's grave, he
was simply stupid. I have no feelings about Robert Kennedy. However,
Ted is deserving of a special sort of contempt. Hey, maybe I can get
arrested for spitting on his grave, that'd be cool.
Now, if only Barney Frank would get Kaposi's sarcoma............
He's going to be buried in Arlington Cemetery. That's reason enough
for me *not* to be buried there.

Quantico National Cemetery is looking better and better.
--
John H


I think Arlington is for heros and those who went above & beyond the call
of duty.
What did you achieve in Vietnam... besides applying a little friendly
fire to keep US troops on their toes.
I don't think sucking on Uncle Sams teat is enough to earn a place for
you.

"I don't think"...

You got that right, at least. Go paint the dog and walk the house, dummy.


Paint this, DoggyBoy!

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"The Fish" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:24:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JLH" wrote in message
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Not sure what you mean by the Bush Rationale,

Since you'e speaking nicely...

The 'Bush Rationale' is the reason many liberals provide for any
negative critique of an Obama action.

I believe that is from a right-wing talking point. There's no shortage of
criticism of Obama from the left.

For example, "You didn't say anything when Bush did it." Or, "Bush did
it, so it's OK if Obama does it too." Hopefully you get the idea.

And, as I've said, I'm willing and able to call Obama on crap that's
either
a hold-over from the Bush years or newly implemented along the same lines.
There are very few people who believe that Obama is perfect, I certainly
am
not among them.

As I've said before, for you guys - yourself, w3fh, Harry, etc. - a
'debate' consists of personal insults and name-calling.

I absolutely reject that line of reasoning or implication. I don't engage
in
such behavior. Feel free to show otherwise. I can't speak for others.

I may stand corrected. If so, I apologize. You're much different from
the pack.

I accept your apology.

And, for the record, Bush may have screwed up a few things during his
eight year tenure. But, Bush is gone. Obama is trying damn hard to
catch up in his first 3/4 of a year.

A few things???? Yeah, a few things like a war of choice and a war of
necessity, like ruining the economy, like taking approximately 1/3 of his
time in office as vacation, like lying to the American public, like spying
on Americans, like engaging in intense cronyism, like promoting and
condoning torture, and on and on and on.

Again, Bush is history.

History, unfortunately, has a direct impact on our current situation.

When Bush was first elected, I was shocked that someone like him was
acceptable to 50% of the electorate. Despite my strong anger at the
situation in Florida and the US Supreme Court vote, I accepted his
legitimacy as president (well, reluctantly). I believed that he would mostly
not do to much, especially since the enconomic climate was decent. I, and
most Americans, supported him in the days and weeks after 9/11, but as the
war in Iraq approached, and I began to suspect that we were being lied to,
my attitude toward him as a fool with ok advisors changed to contempt and
disgust.

Before the last presidential campaign, I had a lot of respect for McCain. I
thought he would run a decent, forthright (and of course partisan) effort to
take the presidency, even though I thought he was probably too old and I
disagreed with a lot of what he stood for both economically and socially. I
am, after all, a liberal. It soon became obvious that he was unable to
restrain the crazies, and when he picked Palin, I concluded that he had
completely missed the boat. If he had picked a reasoned, responsible,
intelligent woman, who happened to be right of center, he might have pulled
it out. There's no doubt that the Palin pick generated momentum and
interest. Talking with my friends, we thought he became pathetic toward the
end. I, for one, felt sorry for him. Frankly, he scared me with his
"maverick" moves... e.g., "suspending" his campaign.

At this point, it's Obama's economy and Obama's two wars, but the historical
detritious can't be swept under the rug, not if we're to move forward. I'm
willing to give the Obama administration some time to sort things out. Not
forever, but he deserves to be respected as the President, even if you
disagree with his policies. We need civil discourse if we are to succeed as
a people.

--
Nom=de=Plume