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An Honest Perspective from a Very Left-leaning News Organization
I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since
the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:31:01 -0500, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY Just to follow up, quickly. This is a case where it should be difficult for left-leaning persons to use the circumstantial ad hominem for which they have an irresistable penchant. It's not as though such a person can say, "Well, what do you expect from a GOP backed news organization!" I have no doubt, though, that some left-leaning person will sneak in some fallacy to in an attempt to innoculate the implications of this interview. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access I think you don't have a clew. In any case, despite several fallacious statements, I don't see the problem with criticizing Pres. Obama when he deserves criticism. So, I don't see what point you're trying to make. Is any person perfect? No. But, if you're going to compare Obama to Bush, well, we all know there was and is no skepticism or criticism allowed for Bush's reign, at least not by the likes of someone like you. -- Nom=de=Plume |
An Honest Perspective from a Very Left-leaning News Organization
wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:31:01 -0500, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY Just to follow up, quickly. This is a case where it should be difficult for left-leaning persons to use the circumstantial ad hominem for which they have an irresistable penchant. It's not as though such a person can say, "Well, what do you expect from a GOP backed news organization!" I have no doubt, though, that some left-leaning person will sneak in some fallacy to in an attempt to innoculate the implications of this interview. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access And Pravda says this about US Capitalism. http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...n_capitalism-0 |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:37:53 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:31:01 -0500, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY Just to follow up, quickly. This is a case where it should be difficult for left-leaning persons to use the circumstantial ad hominem for which they have an irresistable penchant. It's not as though such a person can say, "Well, what do you expect from a GOP backed news organization!" I have no doubt, though, that some left-leaning person will sneak in some fallacy to in an attempt to innoculate the implications of this interview. Huh? Why would anybody argue with this? Might as well argue the sun rises in the west. Do you have a point to make? If so, I missed it. --Vic |
An Honest Perspective from a Very Left-leaning News Organization
On Aug 25, 11:31*pm, wrote:
I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. * RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. *Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. *This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. *It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY yawn.... |
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On Aug 25, 11:31 pm, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY yawn.... Yet more bull**** from the right that doesn't pass the WGAS test... WGAS...who gives a ****? |
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wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:31 pm, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY yawn.... Yet more bull**** from the right that doesn't pass the WGAS test... WGAS...who gives a ****? And still WAFA has to comment. What a moron. |
An Honest Perspective from a Very Left-leaning News Organization
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:28:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:31:01 -0500, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY Just to follow up, quickly. This is a case where it should be difficult for left-leaning persons to use the circumstantial ad hominem for which they have an irresistable penchant. It's not as though such a person can say, "Well, what do you expect from a GOP backed news organization!" I have no doubt, though, that some left-leaning person will sneak in some fallacy to in an attempt to innoculate the implications of this interview. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access I think you don't have a clew. In any case, despite several fallacious statements, I don't see the problem with criticizing Pres. Obama when he deserves criticism. So, I don't see what point you're trying to make. Is any person perfect? No. But, if you're going to compare Obama to Bush, well, we all know there was and is no skepticism or criticism allowed for Bush's reign, at least not by the likes of someone like you. I really didn't think I was that oblique in my presentation. I certainly don't have a "clew" as to what you're attempting to rebut. The point here is that a consipcuously left-leaning news organization, Russia Today, is matter-of-factly stating that the American news media has a tangible left-wing bias for the most part. And RT doesn't have a dog in the fight, so to speak. IOW, they're fairly detached observers of the american political conversation in this respect. Consequently, it robs the left-leaning pundits of one of their favorite informal fallacies, the circumstantial ad hominem, in defending the liberal media. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... I really didn't think I was that oblique in my presentation. I certainly don't have a "clew" as to what you're attempting to rebut. The point here is that a consipcuously left-leaning news organization, Russia Today, is matter-of-factly stating that the American news media has a tangible left-wing bias for the most part. And RT doesn't have a dog in the fight, so to speak. IOW, they're fairly detached observers of the american political conversation in this respect. Consequently, it robs the left-leaning pundits of one of their favorite informal fallacies, the circumstantial ad hominem, in defending the liberal media. Let me get this straight... you're a right-wing nutcase citing a Russian source that considers the possibility that Obama might not be perfect. Yet, there I'm doubtful that there's a single person on this newsgroup who believe Obama should not be criticized if he deserves it. Even MSNBC criticizes him multiple times a week. Do you consider Rush or O'Really liberal? How about Lew Dobbs? I won't even mention the moron Glen Beck. -- Nom=de=Plume |
An Honest Perspective from a Very Left-leaning News Organization
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:23:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . I really didn't think I was that oblique in my presentation. I certainly don't have a "clew" as to what you're attempting to rebut. The point here is that a consipcuously left-leaning news organization, Russia Today, is matter-of-factly stating that the American news media has a tangible left-wing bias for the most part. And RT doesn't have a dog in the fight, so to speak. IOW, they're fairly detached observers of the american political conversation in this respect. Consequently, it robs the left-leaning pundits of one of their favorite informal fallacies, the circumstantial ad hominem, in defending the liberal media. Let me get this straight... you're a right-wing nutcase citing a Russian source that considers the possibility that Obama might not be perfect. Yet, there I'm doubtful that there's a single person on this newsgroup who believe Obama should not be criticized if he deserves it. Even MSNBC criticizes him multiple times a week. Do you consider Rush or O'Really liberal? How about Lew Dobbs? I won't even mention the moron Glen Beck. Rudimentarily speaking, since it appears that I will be unable to render it sensibly otherwise, I have offered an observation that a Left-leaning news organization, specifically RT, recognizes the liberal bent of the American news media. This was the only nuance I was offering, other than the fact that left-leaning politico's in this country would have a difficult time applying the logical fallacy of the circumstantial ad hominem to RT to refute RT's perspective of the American media considering RT's own ostensible, poltical persuasion. Make sense? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... Rudimentarily speaking, since it appears that I will be unable to render it sensibly otherwise, I have offered an observation that a Left-leaning news organization, specifically RT, recognizes the liberal bent of the American news media. This was the only nuance I was offering, other than the fact that left-leaning politico's in this country would have a difficult time applying the logical fallacy of the circumstantial ad hominem to RT to refute RT's perspective of the American media considering RT's own ostensible, poltical persuasion. Make sense? So, they don't count Rush, O'Really, Beck, Dobbs as part of the mainstream media? Well, I'm not sure if I agree or not. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:26:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Rudimentarily speaking, since it appears that I will be unable to render it sensibly otherwise, I have offered an observation that a Left-leaning news organization, specifically RT, recognizes the liberal bent of the American news media. This was the only nuance I was offering, other than the fact that left-leaning politico's in this country would have a difficult time applying the logical fallacy of the circumstantial ad hominem to RT to refute RT's perspective of the American media considering RT's own ostensible, poltical persuasion. Make sense? So, they don't count Rush, O'Really, Beck, Dobbs as part of the mainstream media? Well, I'm not sure if I agree or not. The persons you have listed are noted, self-professed politco's and commentators. O'Rielly may take umbrage with being referred to as a politico, as well as Dobbs. But to classify these persons as pure journalists is something I suspect they would even find amusing. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... So, they don't count Rush, O'Really, Beck, Dobbs as part of the mainstream media? Well, I'm not sure if I agree or not. The persons you have listed are noted, self-professed politco's and commentators. O'Rielly may take umbrage with being referred to as a politico, as well as Dobbs. But to classify these persons as pure journalists is something I suspect they would even find amusing. Please show me where I referred to any of them as "journalists." I referred to them as part of the media. There's a huge difference, which I'm hopeful you can grok in fullness. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... The persons you have listed are noted, self-professed politco's and commentators. O'Rielly may take umbrage with being referred to as a politico, as well as Dobbs. But to classify these persons as pure journalists is something I suspect they would even find amusing. To add to this, I don't think it can be reasonably inferred from the interview that the discussion of liberal bias in the MSM did not tacitly consider the fact that there are more conservative elements of the MSM. It's understood that the more conservative elements are not representative of the MSM as a whole. MSM? Do you mean MSNBC? If so, I certainly agree that conservative elements are not representative of that organization. It is certainly true, as well, that Fox is pretty much a right-wing biased organization, and they pushing an agenda of mis-information and fear. MSNBC isn't pushing a similar agenda, although, as I said, they lean left. -- Nom=de=Plume |
An Honest Perspective from a Very Left-leaning News Organization
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:59:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . The persons you have listed are noted, self-professed politco's and commentators. O'Rielly may take umbrage with being referred to as a politico, as well as Dobbs. But to classify these persons as pure journalists is something I suspect they would even find amusing. To add to this, I don't think it can be reasonably inferred from the interview that the discussion of liberal bias in the MSM did not tacitly consider the fact that there are more conservative elements of the MSM. It's understood that the more conservative elements are not representative of the MSM as a whole. MSM? Do you mean MSNBC? If so, I certainly agree that conservative elements are not representative of that organization. It is certainly true, as well, that Fox is pretty much a right-wing biased organization, and they pushing an agenda of mis-information and fear. MSNBC isn't pushing a similar agenda, although, as I said, they lean left. MSM is a common acronym for Mainstream Media. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/MSM "The mainstream media is a collective journalistic entity which provides news and information to a large audience. This is in contrast with the alternative media, which reaches a much smaller and often more specific audience. You may hear the mainstream media referred to as the “mass media,” referencing the idea that it reaches the masses, and it is sometimes seen written as MSM. Most people around the world get the bulk of their news through the mainstream media." http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-...ream-media.htm RT was referring to the media in the journalistic sense. You really should move beyond Heinlein, JPS. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... MSM? Do you mean MSNBC? If so, I certainly agree that conservative elements are not representative of that organization. It is certainly true, as well, that Fox is pretty much a right-wing biased organization, and they pushing an agenda of mis-information and fear. MSNBC isn't pushing a similar agenda, although, as I said, they lean left. MSM is a common acronym for Mainstream Media. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/MSM "The mainstream media is a collective journalistic entity which provides news and information to a large audience. This is in contrast with the alternative media, which reaches a much smaller and often more specific audience. You may hear the mainstream media referred to as the "mass media," referencing the idea that it reaches the masses, and it is sometimes seen written as MSM. Most people around the world get the bulk of their news through the mainstream media." http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-...ream-media.htm RT was referring to the media in the journalistic sense. You really should move beyond Heinlein, JPS. So, basically, you have nothing of value to say, and have decided on the one hand that the MSM is left-leaning, then claim that the Fox empty-heads aren't journalists, then they are. Who's JPS? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:59:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . MSM? Do you mean MSNBC? If so, I certainly agree that conservative elements are not representative of that organization. It is certainly true, as well, that Fox is pretty much a right-wing biased organization, and they pushing an agenda of mis-information and fear. MSNBC isn't pushing a similar agenda, although, as I said, they lean left. MSM is a common acronym for Mainstream Media. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/MSM "The mainstream media is a collective journalistic entity which provides news and information to a large audience. This is in contrast with the alternative media, which reaches a much smaller and often more specific audience. You may hear the mainstream media referred to as the "mass media," referencing the idea that it reaches the masses, and it is sometimes seen written as MSM. Most people around the world get the bulk of their news through the mainstream media." http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-...ream-media.htm RT was referring to the media in the journalistic sense. You really should move beyond Heinlein, JPS. So, basically, you have nothing of value to say, and have decided on the one hand that the MSM is left-leaning, then claim that the Fox empty-heads aren't journalists, then they are. Who is able to argue with your desultory conclusions, and who would want to? Enjoy -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... Who is able to argue with your desultory conclusions, and who would want to? Enjoy You, apparently. You can't seem to support your various claims, and when the fallacies are pointed out, you run away. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Jeem wrote:
H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:31 pm, wrote: I was a Russian Linguist/intercept operator in the military, and since the advent of youtube I have subscribed to RussiaToday, since I still have a casual interest in Russian affairs. RT runs daily newsclips on Youtube, and as a news organization it sits well to the Left of things. Too, RT covers American politics with alacrity. This clip is a rather surprising interview conducted by RT. It's rather interesting, and their assessment of the American press, I think, can't be so readily dismissed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I2ADBZvpY yawn.... Yet more bull**** from the right that doesn't pass the WGAS test... WGAS...who gives a ****? And still WAFA has to comment. What a moron. And explain his dumb acronyms. WAFA is obvious and appropriate. |
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