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H the K[_2_] August 20th 09 01:41 PM

A true clunker
 
Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers


And I thought this was going to be about your boats, cars, trucks, and
campers...

Frogwatch[_2_] August 20th 09 05:22 PM

A true clunker
 
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers was working and the
Bozomites actually shovelled more money into it. Now, dealers are
dropping out of the program because they are not getting paid for the
clunkers by the Bozoma admin. If they cannot run something as simple
as this what makes you think they can run a healthcare program costing
nearly a trillion dollars/yr.

Don White August 20th 09 05:51 PM

A true clunker
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers


And I thought this was going to be about your boats, cars, trucks, and
campers...



I can't wait to see pictures of his homemade truck camper.
Those things were popular aroung here in the 50s & 60s.



Frogwatch[_2_] August 20th 09 05:57 PM

A true clunker
 
On Aug 20, 12:51*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"H the K" wrote in messagenews:A9adnSy7ZsJW4RDXnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earth link.com...

Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers


And I thought this was going to be about your boats, cars, trucks, and
campers...


I can't wait to see pictures of his homemade truck camper.
Those things were popular aroung here in the 50s & 60s.


How do I send pics of it? I am not knowledgeable about how to post
pics of things.

NotNow[_3_] August 20th 09 05:57 PM

A true clunker
 
Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers was working and the
Bozomites actually shovelled more money into it. Now, dealers are
dropping out of the program because they are not getting paid for the
clunkers by the Bozoma admin. If they cannot run something as simple
as this what makes you think they can run a healthcare program costing
nearly a trillion dollars/yr.


Did you notice that GM has gained strength and is even calling back laid
off employees? Did you notice that Ford is showing profit?
Of course not, because you think that everything liberal is bad. Let the
spinning begin!

H the K[_2_] August 20th 09 07:13 PM

A true clunker
 
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:57:38 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers was working and the
Bozomites actually shovelled more money into it. Now, dealers are
dropping out of the program because they are not getting paid for the
clunkers by the Bozoma admin. If they cannot run something as simple
as this what makes you think they can run a healthcare program costing
nearly a trillion dollars/yr.

Did you notice that GM has gained strength and is even calling back laid
off employees? Did you notice that Ford is showing profit?
Of course not, because you think that everything liberal is bad. Let the
spinning begin!



The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?

This is the classic "giving a man a fish".



I have yet to see a comprehensive plan for economic recovery from the
Disloyal Republicans. I have seen short plans with no details, and plans
calling for bigger tax cuts for the wealthy, and more trickle-down
economics.


Wayne.B August 20th 09 07:19 PM

A true clunker
 
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I can't wait to see pictures of his homemade truck camper.
Those things were popular aroung here in the 50s & 60s.


How do I send pics of it? I am not knowledgeable about how to post
pics of things.


Easy, Image Shack is your friend:

http://imageshack.us/

Just upload your picture and post the resulting URL, like this one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/135/drytortugasftjeffersons.jpg


NotNow[_3_] August 20th 09 07:31 PM

A true clunker
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I can't wait to see pictures of his homemade truck camper.
Those things were popular aroung here in the 50s & 60s.

How do I send pics of it? I am not knowledgeable about how to post
pics of things.


Easy, Image Shack is your friend:

http://imageshack.us/

Just upload your picture and post the resulting URL, like this one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/135/drytortugasftjeffersons.jpg

Is that a ship for supplying Fort Jefferson?

Wayne.B August 20th 09 07:42 PM

A true clunker
 
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:21 -0400, NotNow wrote:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/135/drytortugasftjeffersons.jpg

Is that a ship for supplying Fort Jefferson?


Yes, they run it up on the beach and drop the ramp.


thunder August 20th 09 09:01 PM

A true clunker
 
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:10:39 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?


True, but when "cash for clunkers" was conceived, the concern was whether
there would be a "next month".



This is the classic "giving a man a fish".



wf3h August 20th 09 09:29 PM

A true clunker
 
On Aug 20, 12:22*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers was working and the
Bozomites actually shovelled more money into it. *Now, dealers are
dropping out of the program because they are not getting paid for the
clunkers by the Bozoma admin. *If they cannot run something as simple
as this what makes you think they can run a healthcare program costing
nearly a trillion dollars/yr.


the fact that they'd run it better than the current system which costs
1.5 trillion a year...twice as much as any other country....and
doesn't cover unemployed workers.

the fact that wall street lost us a trillion dollars last year...so
much for the 'free market'

thunder August 20th 09 09:45 PM

A true clunker
 
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:21 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


There seems to be a lot of glee for a plan that sold Japanese cars 80%
of the time. Exactly who were we bailing out?


I'm not enthralled with the program, but I can't be too critical of
things that were done when we were facing "the greatest financial
situation since the Great Depression". One year later, I don't hear that
kind of talk, so, I guess, they did something right.

We did buy an "American" car but it was made in Canada


Well, there are a lot fewer Ford Explorers on the road today.

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...a2VyLXRyYWRlcw

JustWait August 20th 09 09:50 PM

A true clunker
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:57:38 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers was working and the
Bozomites actually shovelled more money into it. Now, dealers are
dropping out of the program because they are not getting paid for the
clunkers by the Bozoma admin. If they cannot run something as simple
as this what makes you think they can run a healthcare program costing
nearly a trillion dollars/yr.


Did you notice that GM has gained strength and is even calling back laid
off employees? Did you notice that Ford is showing profit?
Of course not, because you think that everything liberal is bad. Let the
spinning begin!



The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?


The industry will starve just like the personal computer industry did a
year or so out from the Y2K hoax...

This is the classic "giving a man a fish".


Yep...



--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 20th 09 09:52 PM

A true clunker
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I can't wait to see pictures of his homemade truck camper.
Those things were popular aroung here in the 50s & 60s.


How do I send pics of it? I am not knowledgeable about how to post
pics of things.


Easy, Image Shack is your friend:

http://imageshack.us/

Just upload your picture and post the resulting URL, like this one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/135/drytortugasftjeffersons.jpg


any of you who wish a place on my trip-reports.com site just send me an
email...

Here is how the program works..

http://www.trip-reports.com

Check it out. You can also make your area private and password
protected...

Sponsored by IDesigns.net

Thanks, Scotty

--
Wafa free since 2009

Calif Bill[_2_] August 21st 09 12:00 AM

A true clunker
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:21 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


There seems to be a lot of glee for a plan that sold Japanese cars 80%
of the time. Exactly who were we bailing out?


I'm not enthralled with the program, but I can't be too critical of
things that were done when we were facing "the greatest financial
situation since the Great Depression". One year later, I don't hear that
kind of talk, so, I guess, they did something right.


You may not be hearing it, but that is just the present administration
covering their ass. Unemployment is still increasing, there is all that
borrowed money to payback. Foreclosures are increasing and now it is not
the sub-prime loans, it is those that have lost their jobs and can not make
the payments.



BAR[_2_] August 21st 09 12:46 PM

A true clunker
 
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:57:38 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
At first it looked as if the Cash for Clunkers was working and the
Bozomites actually shovelled more money into it. Now, dealers are
dropping out of the program because they are not getting paid for the
clunkers by the Bozoma admin. If they cannot run something as simple
as this what makes you think they can run a healthcare program costing
nearly a trillion dollars/yr.

Did you notice that GM has gained strength and is even calling back laid
off employees? Did you notice that Ford is showing profit?
Of course not, because you think that everything liberal is bad. Let the
spinning begin!



The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?

This is the classic "giving a man a fish".


500,000 serviceable used vehicles have now been taken out of the used
car market.

thunder August 21st 09 03:36 PM

A true clunker
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:46:46 -0400, BAR wrote:


500,000 serviceable used vehicles have now been taken out of the used
car market.


Yeah, but all the junk yards will be having sales on used parts. ;-)


NotNow[_3_] August 21st 09 04:16 PM

A true clunker
 
thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:46:46 -0400, BAR wrote:


500,000 serviceable used vehicles have now been taken out of the used
car market.


Yeah, but all the junk yards will be having sales on used parts. ;-)

They get crushed.

thunder August 21st 09 04:28 PM

A true clunker
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:16:37 -0400, NotNow wrote:


They get crushed.


I haven't been paying much attention to the program, but I was under the
impression that only the motor had to be destroyed, that the body could
be parted. Although, I would guess, with the glut in the market, they
might just crush them.

thunder August 21st 09 07:21 PM

A true clunker
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:42:03 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


They are allowed to part them out but most are being crushed around
here. We don't really have any junk yards. The "Make America Beautiful"
people zoned them all away.


Florida, right? I noticed that. I had a friend who used to call me,
when he needed unusual parts. I'd buy them at my local junk yard, I mean
Auto Salvage, and send them down. Usually, with shipping, it was still
cheaper for him, than buying them local.

BAR[_2_] August 22nd 09 12:24 AM

A true clunker
 
thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:46:46 -0400, BAR wrote:


500,000 serviceable used vehicles have now been taken out of the used
car market.


Yeah, but all the junk yards will be having sales on used parts. ;-)


How? The CARS program requires that the vehicles be destroyed in their
entirety.


Tim August 22nd 09 12:40 AM

A true clunker
 
On Aug 21, 6:24*pm, BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:46:46 -0400, BAR wrote:


500,000 serviceable used vehicles have now been taken out of the used
car market.


Yeah, but all the junk yards will be having sales on used parts. ;-)


How? The CARS program requires that the vehicles be destroyed in their
entirety.


I dont' realy know, but I thought there was an option of stripping it
of anything usable in a period of 180 days then it had to be crushed.

Richard Casady August 22nd 09 06:02 AM

A true clunker
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:21:56 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:42:03 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


They are allowed to part them out but most are being crushed around
here. We don't really have any junk yards. The "Make America Beautiful"
people zoned them all away.


Florida, right? I noticed that. I had a friend who used to call me,
when he needed unusual parts. I'd buy them at my local junk yard, I mean
Auto Salvage, and send them down. Usually, with shipping, it was still
cheaper for him, than buying them local.


Auto salvage? When I was a kid my dad was building a tractor. He
bought a landing flap gearbox from a B-17. Bought a nice piece of
plate exactly the right size for the crossmember to mount it on. Too
bad it was armor and nearly undrillable, expecially with whatever
drills the local hardware store had. He used a hand drill, a big one
with a half inch chuck, and a big gear with a crank handle on it.

Casady

JustWait August 24th 09 04:19 AM

A true clunker
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:10:39 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?


True, but when "cash for clunkers" was conceived, the concern was whether
there would be a "next month".



This is the classic "giving a man a fish".


Pfffttt.. The concern was how to move more money to the Unions...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] August 24th 09 11:09 AM

A true clunker
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:10:39 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?

True, but when "cash for clunkers" was conceived, the concern was whether
there would be a "next month".



This is the classic "giving a man a fish".


Pfffttt.. The concern was how to move more money to the Unions...



*This* from a loser like JustHate, who couldn't hold down a job moving
crates in a warehouse or sweeping horse poop out of a barn?

wf3h August 24th 09 12:14 PM

A true clunker
 
On Aug 23, 11:19*pm, JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:10:39 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?


True, but when "cash for clunkers" was conceived, the concern was whether
there would be a "next month". *


This is the classic "giving a man a fish".


Pfffttt.. The concern was how to move more money to the Unions...

--


considering how many trillions we've given to the rich in the last 30
years, it's about time we gave money to the unions. they're the only
ones WORKING in this country. the rich have ****ed away our national
wealth AND made us pay for their losses.

BAR[_2_] August 24th 09 12:47 PM

A true clunker
 
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:19 pm, JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:10:39 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?
True, but when "cash for clunkers" was conceived, the concern was whether
there would be a "next month".
This is the classic "giving a man a fish".

Pfffttt.. The concern was how to move more money to the Unions...

--


considering how many trillions we've given to the rich in the last 30
years, it's about time we gave money to the unions. they're the only
ones WORKING in this country. the rich have ****ed away our national
wealth AND made us pay for their losses.


These union workers have to report to somebody and that would be
management. Whether that management is big government or big industry it
is all the same.

Guzzistimo August 24th 09 08:55 PM

A true clunker
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:14:14 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 23, 11:19*pm, JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:10:39 -0400, gfretwell wrote:


The real problem is, what are they going to do next month?


True, but when "cash for clunkers" was conceived, the concern was whether
there would be a "next month". *


This is the classic "giving a man a fish".


Pfffttt.. The concern was how to move more money to the Unions...

--


considering how many trillions we've given to the rich in the last 30
years, it's about time we gave money to the unions. they're the only
ones WORKING in this country. the rich have ****ed away our national
wealth AND made us pay for their losses.


Shame on people who develop a business and provide jobs. It would be
much better if the business had never started.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


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