BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the "do
nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.

Moron.

I notice you didn't dispute the facts. You moved straight into name
calling. Your usual MO.


I don't "debate" morons, and don't consider their facts "facts." Sorry.

On Aug 13, 9:53*pm, JustWait wrote:
In article 790f68d9-d57f-408e-8102-03275f5fe814
@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com, says...





On Aug 13, 5:24*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...

the market that brought you

-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america

all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.

i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.

BofA is a Federal caused problem. *They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. *And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. *How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.

ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!

and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today

you need to start reading the news.

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the "do
nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.

newsflash, sport. pelosi had zip to do with the collapse of the
economy. your 'deregulate the economy' buddies ballooned CDO's to 62
TRILLION dollars. that's when your friend bush was president and your
pals the GOP ran congress. i realize that to you 'i love the rich'
folks, the rich can do no wrong, but reality is a different story

If she had
not broken her campaign promise and let gas go to $4.00 a gallon

ROFLMAO!! $4.00 gas broke the economy?? BWAHAHAHA!! god you'll fall
for any story won't you?

, and
helped the Bush Admin reign in the Fannie Freddie syndicate, we would
not have fallen off of the edge. You can blame the three highest
recipients of fannie and freddie lobby money over a ten year period.
Chris Dodd, Barak Obama, and John Kerry.

and over that 10 year period, who was in control of congress? The GOP.
who wrote the bill deregulating the securities industry? phil gramm, a
GOP legend, along with his wife a sr. VP at enron...the GOP hijacked
the economy, fed it to their rich friends and presented the bill to
the middle class THEN told you a story about what happened

and you fell for it!!


.. And remember, Obama was only
there for the last two years.. How much do you think he got to be in the
number two spot against Dodd, and Kerry and a ten year run?


gee. what happened to cheney, mccain, huckabee and all your buddies?
seems the american people finally stopped believing the lies you still
believe

On Aug 13, 10:39*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...

the market that brought you

-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america

all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.

i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.

BofA is a Federal caused problem. *They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. *And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. *How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.

ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!

and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd say hi!

In fact Barney Frank just tried to get the banks to "readjust" interest
rates by mortgage holders and it went absolutely nowhere. Congress needs
to stop meddling in the banking industry.

except, of course, it was phil gramm and his wife, a sr. VP at enron,
who wrote the bill deregulating securities. this allowed CDO's to go
from $920B in 1997 to $62 TRILLION in 2007.

and the GOP knew that when the bill came due, the middle class would
pay for it to ensure the rich didn't lose a dollar.

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."

Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html

On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:55:33 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."

Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html

From your source:

"...A spokesperson for Palin told ABC News that the former governor
was referring to a section promoting advance care planning that
appears on page 425 of the House Democrats' bill [pdf]. Advance care
planning includes living wills and durable powers of attorney that
allow individuals to make clear their wishes for end-of-life care,
whatever they may be.

And as it turns out, the cause of advance planning has been championed
especially strongly by a pro-life Republican -- U.S. Sen. Johnny
Isakson of Georgia."

No where does it say Isakson authored the paragraphs in the bill. You
guys will pull anything out of your hats. Go read the bill, starting
on page 429.

--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the
"do nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.

Moron.

I notice you didn't dispute the facts. You moved straight into name
calling. Your usual MO.


I don't "debate" morons, and don't consider their facts "facts." Sorry.

I understand. You are afraid to debate. You are afraid of facts.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:39 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...
the market that brought you
-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america
all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.
i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.
BofA is a Federal caused problem. They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.
ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!
and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd say hi!

In fact Barney Frank just tried to get the banks to "readjust" interest
rates by mortgage holders and it went absolutely nowhere. Congress needs
to stop meddling in the banking industry.

except, of course, it was phil gramm and his wife, a sr. VP at enron,
who wrote the bill deregulating securities. this allowed CDO's to go
from $920B in 1997 to $62 TRILLION in 2007.

and the GOP knew that when the bill came due, the middle class would
pay for it to ensure the rich didn't lose a dollar.

No crap loans from Barney Frank and Chris Dodd no CDOs.

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."

Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html

It doesn't matter where it came from it is making a lot of hay for the
anti-Obamacare side of the issue. The biggest problem is that a Dr can
initiate the conversation and get paid for it without the patient
knowing what is going on. I thought Obama was against Dr's padding their
pay?

BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the
"do nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.

Moron.

I notice you didn't dispute the facts. You moved straight into name
calling. Your usual MO.


I don't "debate" morons, and don't consider their facts "facts." Sorry.

I understand. You are afraid to debate. You are afraid of facts.



Obviously, *you* don't understand, since you couldn't figure out the
uncomplicated sentence I offered you.

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the
"do nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.

Moron.

I notice you didn't dispute the facts. You moved straight into name
calling. Your usual MO.


I don't "debate" morons, and don't consider their facts "facts." Sorry.

I understand. You are afraid to debate. You are afraid of facts.



Obviously, *you* don't understand, since you couldn't figure out the
uncomplicated sentence I offered you.

Simply put, WAFA. Comprende?