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We'll see how the right spins THIS.
The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment
instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says. "In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming." The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S. What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term. |
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We'll see how the right spins THIS.
"NotNow" wrote in message ... The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says. "In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming." The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S. What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term. Well, you say Bush was a bad president. So going along with popularity polls may be a sign of a bad President. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says. "In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming." The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S. What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term. Well, you say Bush was a bad president. So going along with popularity polls may be a sign of a bad President. Where did I say that? |
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We'll see how the right spins THIS.
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says. "In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming." The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S. What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term. Well, you say Bush was a bad president. So going along with popularity polls may be a sign of a bad President. Where did I say that? You state it over and over. |
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We'll see how the right spins THIS.
Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says. "In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming." The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S. What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term. Well, you say Bush was a bad president. So going along with popularity polls may be a sign of a bad President. Where did I say that? You state it over and over. Cite? |
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We'll see how the right spins THIS.
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:54:58 -0400, NotNow wrote:
The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." It shows that Cheney, like most Republicans, didn't agree with all the crap Bush did. That's not to say that everything he did was crap, but there *was* some thrown in, especially during the last couple years. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:20:46 -0400, H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:54:58 -0400, NotNow wrote: The right has blamed Obama for just going along with public sentiment instead of "doing the right thing". I wonder how they will feel about Bush's term now that this is out...... "When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views." It shows that Cheney, like most Republicans, didn't agree with all the crap Bush did. That's not to say that everything he did was crap, but there *was* some thrown in, especially during the last couple years. Hey, HEY!! I thought we were not capable of comments like that!!! Now I am stumped.... No, not "Stumpy" Harry, you are not getting any today... snerk Everything Bush did, with a couple of exceptions, was crap. What Cheney tried to convince him to do was beyond crap, it was evil. I'm still hoping that Cheney will be investigated properly, indicted, tried, and then convicted, and then pardoned by President Obama. But I don't see it happening. |
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