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Calif Bill[_2_] August 11th 09 02:48 AM

The immorality of the private sector continues...
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 10, 1:08 pm, H the K wrote:
...unabated, with another example of greedy corporate executives at a
bankrupt company making a grab for big bonuses while axing hundreds of
employees and freezing wages for many others.

That's what the Tribune Co. executives are doing as the multimedia
conglomerate sinks under the weight of $13 billion in debt incurred by
its corporate leaders in 2007. And they want to keep the bonuses a big
secret, the AFL-CIO reports.

The company filed for Chapter 11 protection last December and, in its
most recent action, is seeking court permission to dole out nearly $70
million in executive bonuses. The company also requested the court seal
much of the request. The request was denied.

The Newspaper Guild-CWA and the Teamsters, which represent employees at
the Tribune-owned Baltimore Sun and WPIX-TV in New York, has asked the
U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware to block the company’s plan to pay up
to $69.9 million in executive bonus this year, including $20.6 million
to the 10 top managers (about $2 million each). Some 700 other managers
would share in the bonus booty.

While the Tribune Co. is coddling its execs and managers with bonuses,
its attitude toward employees was starkly demonstrated in late April
when the Baltimore Sun laid off 61 newsroom employees, one-third of its
news-gathering operation.
So HK wants state run media, no surprise there.


And you'd prefer complete anarchy and no government at all.



I just love it when pea-brain righties like Bilious Bill think they know
what I want. My post was about the immorality of paying big bonuses to
execs when you are laying off peons.


I know what you want. Cradle to grave coddling by your union and the
government.

I think the stockholders should sue the BOD's for fiduciary malfeasance.
In this case of the Tribune, and AIG and all the brokerage houses and banks.
Make the BOD have to come up with the money.



NotNow[_3_] August 11th 09 02:45 PM

The immorality of the private sector continues...
 
Just John II wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:36:31 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John II wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:39:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 10, 1:08 pm, H the K wrote:
...unabated, with another example of greedy corporate executives at a
bankrupt company making a grab for big bonuses while axing hundreds of
employees and freezing wages for many others.

That's what the Tribune Co. executives are doing as the multimedia
conglomerate sinks under the weight of $13 billion in debt incurred by
its corporate leaders in 2007. And they want to keep the bonuses a big
secret, the AFL-CIO reports.

The company filed for Chapter 11 protection last December and, in its
most recent action, is seeking court permission to dole out nearly $70
million in executive bonuses. The company also requested the court seal
much of the request. The request was denied.

The Newspaper Guild-CWA and the Teamsters, which represent employees at
the Tribune-owned Baltimore Sun and WPIX-TV in New York, has asked the
U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware to block the company’s plan to pay up
to $69.9 million in executive bonus this year, including $20.6 million
to the 10 top managers (about $2 million each). Some 700 other managers
would share in the bonus booty.

While the Tribune Co. is coddling its execs and managers with bonuses,
its attitude toward employees was starkly demonstrated in late April
when the Baltimore Sun laid off 61 newsroom employees, one-third of its
news-gathering operation.
So HK wants state run media, no surprise there.
Harry wants NO checks and balances. He wants everything and anything run
by the government. Some here are just the opposite. They don't want the
government to put any restrictions on any company or entity. Both are
very bad for the country for obvious reasons.
I'm surprised. I've noticed no one here who wants not restrictions on
any company or entity.

Could you back that statement up at all?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Hell, it's the Republican mantra!!! Get government out of industry. Make
the government quit restricting business.


You said, "Some here are just the opposite. They don't want the
government to put any restrictions on any company or entity."

That was the statement in question.

Can you back up that statement?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Yes, just as easily as you can back up statements you've made about
liberals. You blindly lump every single liberal together. I don't think
like, nor want the same things that some other liberals might want.
So, if it's okay for you to do it about liberals, it's okay for me to do
it about conservatives, correct?

NotNow[_3_] August 11th 09 02:53 PM

The immorality of the private sector continues...
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 10, 1:08 pm, H the K wrote:
...unabated, with another example of greedy corporate executives at a
bankrupt company making a grab for big bonuses while axing hundreds of
employees and freezing wages for many others.

That's what the Tribune Co. executives are doing as the multimedia
conglomerate sinks under the weight of $13 billion in debt incurred by
its corporate leaders in 2007. And they want to keep the bonuses a big
secret, the AFL-CIO reports.

The company filed for Chapter 11 protection last December and, in its
most recent action, is seeking court permission to dole out nearly $70
million in executive bonuses. The company also requested the court seal
much of the request. The request was denied.

The Newspaper Guild-CWA and the Teamsters, which represent employees at
the Tribune-owned Baltimore Sun and WPIX-TV in New York, has asked the
U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware to block the company’s plan to pay up
to $69.9 million in executive bonus this year, including $20.6 million
to the 10 top managers (about $2 million each). Some 700 other managers
would share in the bonus booty.

While the Tribune Co. is coddling its execs and managers with bonuses,
its attitude toward employees was starkly demonstrated in late April
when the Baltimore Sun laid off 61 newsroom employees, one-third of its
news-gathering operation.
So HK wants state run media, no surprise there.
And you'd prefer complete anarchy and no government at all.


I just love it when pea-brain righties like Bilious Bill think they know
what I want. My post was about the immorality of paying big bonuses to
execs when you are laying off peons.


I know what you want. Cradle to grave coddling by your union and the
government.

I think the stockholders should sue the BOD's for fiduciary malfeasance.
In this case of the Tribune, and AIG and all the brokerage houses and banks.
Make the BOD have to come up with the money.


All without getting off of his fat ass and making it for himself.

Just John II August 11th 09 03:06 PM

The immorality of the private sector continues...
 
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:45:10 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John II wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:36:31 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John II wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:39:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 10, 1:08 pm, H the K wrote:
...unabated, with another example of greedy corporate executives at a
bankrupt company making a grab for big bonuses while axing hundreds of
employees and freezing wages for many others.

That's what the Tribune Co. executives are doing as the multimedia
conglomerate sinks under the weight of $13 billion in debt incurred by
its corporate leaders in 2007. And they want to keep the bonuses a big
secret, the AFL-CIO reports.

The company filed for Chapter 11 protection last December and, in its
most recent action, is seeking court permission to dole out nearly $70
million in executive bonuses. The company also requested the court seal
much of the request. The request was denied.

The Newspaper Guild-CWA and the Teamsters, which represent employees at
the Tribune-owned Baltimore Sun and WPIX-TV in New York, has asked the
U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware to block the company’s plan to pay up
to $69.9 million in executive bonus this year, including $20.6 million
to the 10 top managers (about $2 million each). Some 700 other managers
would share in the bonus booty.

While the Tribune Co. is coddling its execs and managers with bonuses,
its attitude toward employees was starkly demonstrated in late April
when the Baltimore Sun laid off 61 newsroom employees, one-third of its
news-gathering operation.
So HK wants state run media, no surprise there.
Harry wants NO checks and balances. He wants everything and anything run
by the government. Some here are just the opposite. They don't want the
government to put any restrictions on any company or entity. Both are
very bad for the country for obvious reasons.
I'm surprised. I've noticed no one here who wants not restrictions on
any company or entity.

Could you back that statement up at all?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
Hell, it's the Republican mantra!!! Get government out of industry. Make
the government quit restricting business.


You said, "Some here are just the opposite. They don't want the
government to put any restrictions on any company or entity."

That was the statement in question.

Can you back up that statement?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Yes, just as easily as you can back up statements you've made about
liberals. You blindly lump every single liberal together. I don't think
like, nor want the same things that some other liberals might want.
So, if it's okay for you to do it about liberals, it's okay for me to do
it about conservatives, correct?


In other words, "No."

You can't back it up because it was a bull**** statement.

Bye.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

NotNow[_3_] August 11th 09 04:11 PM

The immorality of the private sector continues...
 
Just John II wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:45:10 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John II wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:36:31 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John II wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:39:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 10, 1:08 pm, H the K wrote:
...unabated, with another example of greedy corporate executives at a
bankrupt company making a grab for big bonuses while axing hundreds of
employees and freezing wages for many others.

That's what the Tribune Co. executives are doing as the multimedia
conglomerate sinks under the weight of $13 billion in debt incurred by
its corporate leaders in 2007. And they want to keep the bonuses a big
secret, the AFL-CIO reports.

The company filed for Chapter 11 protection last December and, in its
most recent action, is seeking court permission to dole out nearly $70
million in executive bonuses. The company also requested the court seal
much of the request. The request was denied.

The Newspaper Guild-CWA and the Teamsters, which represent employees at
the Tribune-owned Baltimore Sun and WPIX-TV in New York, has asked the
U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware to block the company’s plan to pay up
to $69.9 million in executive bonus this year, including $20.6 million
to the 10 top managers (about $2 million each). Some 700 other managers
would share in the bonus booty.

While the Tribune Co. is coddling its execs and managers with bonuses,
its attitude toward employees was starkly demonstrated in late April
when the Baltimore Sun laid off 61 newsroom employees, one-third of its
news-gathering operation.
So HK wants state run media, no surprise there.
Harry wants NO checks and balances. He wants everything and anything run
by the government. Some here are just the opposite. They don't want the
government to put any restrictions on any company or entity. Both are
very bad for the country for obvious reasons.
I'm surprised. I've noticed no one here who wants not restrictions on
any company or entity.

Could you back that statement up at all?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
Hell, it's the Republican mantra!!! Get government out of industry. Make
the government quit restricting business.
You said, "Some here are just the opposite. They don't want the
government to put any restrictions on any company or entity."

That was the statement in question.

Can you back up that statement?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Yes, just as easily as you can back up statements you've made about
liberals. You blindly lump every single liberal together. I don't think
like, nor want the same things that some other liberals might want.
So, if it's okay for you to do it about liberals, it's okay for me to do
it about conservatives, correct?


In other words, "No."

You can't back it up because it was a bull**** statement.

Bye.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Don't put words in my mouth, John. You know damned good and well that
you've never said anything good here about anyone that doesn't fit that
very narrow mold of conservatism. Likewise you if anyone says anything
about something liberal, it's instantly bad and you fit THEM into a very
narrow mold too. I'm pretty lucky that I can think outside of the lines
and make informative decisions based on what I want for my country and
family, not what some conservative talk show idiot or politician wants.

[email protected] August 12th 09 03:23 AM

The immorality of the private sector continues...
 
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:08:05 -0400, H the K
wrote:

...unabated, with another example of greedy corporate executives at a
bankrupt company making a grab for big bonuses while axing hundreds of
employees and freezing wages for many others.

That's what the Tribune Co. executives are doing as the multimedia
conglomerate sinks under the weight of $13 billion in debt incurred by
its corporate leaders in 2007. And they want to keep the bonuses a big
secret, the AFL-CIO reports.

The company filed for Chapter 11 protection last December and, in its
most recent action, is seeking court permission to dole out nearly $70
million in executive bonuses. The company also requested the court seal
much of the request. The request was denied.

The Newspaper Guild-CWA and the Teamsters, which represent employees at
the Tribune-owned Baltimore Sun and WPIX-TV in New York, has asked the
U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware to block the company’s plan to pay up
to $69.9 million in executive bonus this year, including $20.6 million
to the 10 top managers (about $2 million each). Some 700 other managers
would share in the bonus booty.

While the Tribune Co. is coddling its execs and managers with bonuses,


The Tribune is unable to make those disbursements without the court's
approval under Chapter 11 restructuring. That is not "coddling,"
especially if the request is refused. The company is complying with
their restructuring plan if it has taken the appropriate steps in
seeking the court's approval.

The propaganda will just never stop.

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