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Metro Fabrication August 10th 09 04:25 AM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 
G'day all,

A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....

I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx 2006
model for use on a tender.

The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running which
I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.

As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out & doing
some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to electrical
components due to it not being connected to a battery.

The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which look
like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.

Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating and
tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should they be
connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load" from the
alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.

Thanks in advance,

Gary.

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--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



Tim August 10th 09 01:19 PM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 
On Aug 9, 10:25*pm, "Metro Fabrication"
wrote:
G'day all,

A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....

I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx 2006
model for use on a tender.

The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running which
I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.

As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out & doing
some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to electrical
components due to it not being connected to a battery.

The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which look
like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.

Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating and
tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should they be
connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load" from the
alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.

Thanks in advance,

Gary.

Note: Email address is bogus to reduce spam. Reply to group is encouraged to
"share the knowledge"

--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia


Gary, i would say yes. But one thing is to note. is the engines spark
provided my magneto, or by coil?

in other words, can you rope start the engine without a battery hooked
to it?

If so, then disconnect as much of the wiring as you feel.


Tim

Don White August 10th 09 01:51 PM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 

"Metro Fabrication" wrote in message
...
G'day all,

A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....

I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx 2006
model for use on a tender.

The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running
which I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.

As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out &
doing some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to
electrical components due to it not being connected to a battery.

The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which look
like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.

Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating
and tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should they
be connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load" from the
alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.

Thanks in advance,

Gary.

Note: Email address is bogus to reduce spam. Reply to group is encouraged
to "share the knowledge"


--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia


I ran across a similar problem last year with a 2003 Johnson 25 2 stroke.
All of a sudden it started to stall and was very hard to re-start.
Took it to the dealer and he said a couple of screws had worked loose and
damaged a coil. He said if I wasn't using the semi-complete charging
system, I should just remove the stator, replace the $40. coil and all would
be well. He was right.



Calif Bill[_2_] August 10th 09 08:22 PM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 

"Metro Fabrication" wrote in message
...
G'day all,

A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....

I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx 2006
model for use on a tender.

The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running
which I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.

As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out &
doing some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to
electrical components due to it not being connected to a battery.

The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which look
like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.

Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating
and tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should they
be connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load" from the
alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.

Thanks in advance,

Gary.

Note: Email address is bogus to reduce spam. Reply to group is encouraged
to "share the knowledge"


--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia


Just tape the wires to a solid connection. When you sell the motor, may
bring some extra bucks. Not having a battery connected is no problem. I
ran a 15 hp Mariner for 12 years without a battery connected to the charging
circuit.



Tim August 11th 09 03:30 AM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 
On Aug 10, 7:51*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Metro Fabrication" wrote in message

...



G'day all,


A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....


I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx 2006
model for use on a tender.


The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running
which I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.


As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out &
doing some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to
electrical components due to it not being connected to a battery.


The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which look
like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.


Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating
and tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should they
be connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load" from the
alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.


Thanks in advance,


Gary.


Note: Email address is bogus to reduce spam. Reply to group is encouraged
to "share the knowledge"


--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia


I ran across a similar problem last year with a 2003 Johnson 25 2 stroke.
All of a sudden it started to stall and was very hard to re-start.
Took it to the dealer and he said a couple of screws had worked loose and
damaged a coil. *He said if I wasn't using the semi-complete charging
system, I should just remove the stator, replace the $40. coil and all would
be well. * He was right.


OK, so it's mag style ignition. I wonder why he said to remove the
stator coil? Because when it's unhooked, it just goes for the ride.

Metro Fabrication August 18th 09 01:11 AM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Metro Fabrication" wrote in message
...
G'day all,

A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....

I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx
2006 model for use on a tender.

The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running
which I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.

As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out &
doing some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to
electrical components due to it not being connected to a battery.

The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which
look like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.

Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating
and tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should
they be connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load"
from the alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.

Thanks in advance,

Gary.

Note: Email address is bogus to reduce spam. Reply to group is encouraged
to "share the knowledge"


--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia


Just tape the wires to a solid connection. When you sell the motor, may
bring some extra bucks. Not having a battery connected is no problem. I
ran a 15 hp Mariner for 12 years without a battery connected to the
charging circuit.

Hi All,

Thankyou for the advice and comments.

I have disconnected the kit from the "two wires" that come out from under
the flywheel, insulated and secured them.

Motor starts and runs fine without anything connected so I guess all will be
well.

Regards,

Gary



Tim August 18th 09 01:23 AM

Disconnecting of "charge kit" 15hp yamaha
 
On Aug 17, 7:11*pm, "Metro Fabrication"
wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

m...



"Metro Fabrication" wrote in message
...
G'day all,


A quick question for some knowledgeable folks here....


I just bought a second hand, 15hp Yamaha two stroke outboard - approx
2006 model for use on a tender.


The motor has what I know as a "charge kit" fitted which looks to be a
rectifier with wires coming out of the front of the motor that have lugs
that connect to a battery to provide charge when the motor is running
which I guess would run lights & sounder etc.. on a small dinghy.


As the motor will be used in a stock aluminium dinghy I have no need for
onboard power and am worried that the wires may end up shorting out &
doing some damage, or worse still causing some type of damage to
electrical components due to it not being connected to a battery.


The "rectifier" looks easy to remove (just a single screw) and is only
connected to two green wires coming out from under the flywheel which
look like they have factory "push plug" connectors on them.


Can these green wires be simply disconnected, appropripiately insulating
and tying off so they don't get caught in any moving parts, or should
they be connected to something else to soak up the appropriate "load"
from the alternator or whatever is hidden under the flywheel.


Thanks in advance,


Gary.


Note: Email address is bogus to reduce spam. Reply to group is encouraged
to "share the knowledge"


--
Gary
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia


Just tape the wires to a solid connection. *When you sell the motor, may
bring some extra bucks. *Not having a battery connected is no problem.. *I
ran a 15 hp Mariner for 12 years without a battery connected to the
charging circuit.


Hi All,

Thankyou for the advice and comments.

I have disconnected the kit from the "two wires" that come out from under
the flywheel, insulated and secured them.

Motor starts and runs fine without anything connected so I guess all will be
well.

Regards,

Gary


Cool! Glad it worked out.


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