|
That damned Clinton
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:21 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "just Jim" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Imagine being in a company of soldiers commanded by Herring. No wonder the Vietnamese kicked our butts. I fell sorry for the real soldiers and Marines who actually went into harms way...and had to put up with officers like JohnnyH...hiding back on safe territory. Doesn't get any safer than the Isle of Nover Skosher, does it Donny boy? Geesh...is there any limit to the stupidity here? Nova Scotia *is not* an island. ROTFLMAO!! Donnie, that was great. *You* calling someone else 'stupid'. What a gut buster! -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
That damned Clinton
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:57 -0400, NotNow wrote: wrote: On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote: That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those journalists released. It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy. Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our innocent Americans. We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. And what do you think would have happened if there was a (R) in office? Kim asked specifically for Clinton. Clinton had the fortitude and compassion to help DESPITE what he knew the naysayers would say about him. What has come out here in rec.boats is foolish even on a Harry scale of political one-sidedness. Funny, I haven't seen any "naysayers" here, all supportive. Just want to point out that Obama is God, not Clinton (anymore) so it is reasonable to suspect this meeting was a cold call with nothing predecided... Show me what anybody said that should be considered negative about Clinton in this situation?? Again, just like the reverse of Harry, some find it plausible to dis Clinton but hide it behind a very thin veil of bull****. I'm about sick of it. From both sides. I just don't know what you think we are saying that is negative, what was it? All we are saying it "it isn't a cold call, issues were pre- arranged". As it should be, these are countries involved, not individuals. It shouldn't be left to any one person, democrat or republican... He did exactly as he should of with his role in this rescue. I give him nothing but credit. I always kinda' liked Bill, even if I don't agree with his politics... I for one, commend the man for what he done. So do I.. You do realize that he put his ass right in the line of fire, don't you? Yup. The North Koreans could have just took him and did whatever they wanted. But what do all of the conservatives say? All of the remarks were no where near "it isn't a cold call". Mine were. More like *we probably gave him rights to build all of the nukes he wants* kind of bull****. Funny, a lot of the remarks I heard here yesterday completely parroted Hannity when I listened to him on the way home. Face it. I just didn't see those posts but I have been missing some of them.. But I didn't see any of those. Nothing a liberal does will ever please some people, simply because it's a liberal. Hide it under a thin veil, and it's Harryopposite. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
Yo jps - religious ridicule
On Aug 6, 10:34*am, H the K wrote:
jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:21:47 -0400, Little John wrote: I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar. I'm an admirer of Christians who walk the path. *AK47 ownership for some reason doesn't seem to fit with the life Jesus would model. I'm also an admirer of Republicans who walk the path. *It's about individual responsibility. *There are simply too few of them to make the vision work. Christians who walk the path? You mean, follow the teachings of Jesus? There are none in this newsgroup. I'm glad you brought that up Harry. I can't live totally up to Christs teachings, and i dont' claim that I can. But I can try and even though I try, I admit that I do fail. That's why I rely upon His grace. |
That damned Clinton
In article ,
says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:40:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:57 -0400, NotNow wrote: wrote: On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote: That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those journalists released. It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy. Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our innocent Americans. We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. And what do you think would have happened if there was a (R) in office? Kim asked specifically for Clinton. Clinton had the fortitude and compassion to help DESPITE what he knew the naysayers would say about him. What has come out here in rec.boats is foolish even on a Harry scale of political one-sidedness. Funny, I haven't seen any "naysayers" here, all supportive. Just want to point out that Obama is God, not Clinton (anymore) so it is reasonable to suspect this meeting was a cold call with nothing predecided... Show me what anybody said that should be considered negative about Clinton in this situation?? Again, just like the reverse of Harry, some find it plausible to dis Clinton but hide it behind a very thin veil of bull****. I'm about sick of it. From both sides. I just don't know what you think we are saying that is negative, what was it? All we are saying it "it isn't a cold call, issues were pre- arranged". As it should be, these are countries involved, not individuals. It shouldn't be left to any one person, democrat or republican... He did exactly as he should of with his role in this rescue. I give him nothing but credit. I always kinda' liked Bill, even if I don't agree with his politics... I for one, commend the man for what he done. You do realize that he put his ass right in the line of fire, don't you? The North Koreans could have just took him and did whatever they wanted. But what do all of the conservatives say? All of the remarks were no where near "it isn't a cold call". More like *we probably gave him rights to build all of the nukes he wants* kind of bull****. Funny, a lot of the remarks I heard here yesterday completely parroted Hannity when I listened to him on the way home. Face it. Nothing a liberal does will ever please some people, simply because it's a liberal. Hide it under a thin veil, and it's Harryopposite. I wonder if Hannity said, "Wow, that's the same thing those folks on rec.boats were saying!" Yes, the North Koreans could have just "took him and did whatever they wanted". But then they wouldn't benefit from any promises made during any negotiations, would they? Diplomacy is not a one-way street. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. What promises? Loogie.! Do you really think that KJI just let those girls go because President Clinton came and asked him nicely, and absolutly for no other reason? -- Wafa free since 2009 |
That damned Clinton
JustWait wrote:
Loogie.! Do you really think that KJI just let those girls go because President Clinton came and asked him nicely, and absolutly for no other reason? The two idiots, discussing world affairs, and trying to second-guess the dictator of north korea. Priceless. |
Yo jps - religious ridicule
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:53:53 -0400, Another John
wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:40:29 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:00:14 -0400, Another John wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:21:47 -0400, Little John wrote: I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar. I'm an admirer of Christians who walk the path. AK47 ownership for some reason doesn't seem to fit with the life Jesus would model. I'm also an admirer of Republicans who walk the path. It's about individual responsibility. There are simply too few of them to make the vision work. You side-stepped that one. I didn't sidestep anything. I don't see Obama as a hypocrite. From what I can tell, he takes his faith seriously and is much closer to acting like a true Christian than any president since Eisenhower. What does the ownership of a weapon have to do with the life Jesus would model? He didn't drive a BMW or buy German screwdrivers either. Hell, his house probably wasn't even air-conditioned. Which of the above is Obama? You've commented frequently enough on the irrationality of religious beliefs. Go for it. I don't claim to be a follower of Jesus but I'm a lot closer to walking his path than most of the idiots who claim him as their lord and savior. Who would Jesus kill with an AK 47? I'm happy that you are proud of following the path of Jesus. Spread the word. It's not a bad path to follow. I've no idea where your silly AK 47 question came from. Who would Jesus kill with a BMW or German screwdrivers? Screwdrivers are used for screwing screws. BMWs are used for transportation. AK47s are used for killing. |
That damned Clinton
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:55:24 -0400, Another John
wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:41:21 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:35 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:39:13 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:26 -0400, H the K wrote: When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of "kindness." Also, as his term was ending, Clinton was involved in ways to improve relations between the U.S. and North Korea. The idiot who succeeded Clinton thought *that* was a bad idea, and now, eight years later, the North Koreans have nuclear bombs. Yet another legacy of Bush the Idiot. If you are right Kim III will drop his nuclear program now, stop threatening Japan and maybe we can bring home the 50,000 guys we have on his southern border. I bet none of them happen What are you talking about? Clinton *did* send a letter of condolence and Clinton wanted to de-escalate the situation between the U.S. and North Korea, and Bush did more or less ignore ways to improve relations with North Korea and, worse, make our relationship with that nation deteriorate even further. That has nothing to do with me being "right." It has everything to do with our failed diplomacy during the Dubya years. What Kim does now after eight years of Bush is unpredictable. He may respect Bill Clinton, but who knows how he feels about the U.S., whether those feelings can be improved, or whether his illness totally clouds his abilities. The point is that we could have been in a better situation vis-a-vis North Korea but for the incomptencies, failures and wrong-headedness of the Bush Administration. You righties keeping wanting to forget that Bush more or less ****ed the world over during his presidency. TEN presidents in a row have ****ed up the Korean problem. Clinton had 8 years to do something and nothing happened. It is like Iraq. That cluster **** has gone on for 18 years. A kid born the day we started that war could be drafted to go fight in it now. As for JPs allegation that Bush ignored Israel, why does he think we are in Iraq in the first place? Oil. That was funny the first time you said it. It's even funnier now. Where's the oil? Don't you know that they (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz) ****ed the whole thing up? They didn't have a plan other than to destabelize the country and attempt to be the country's resource broker. They had long term objectives but didn't have a plan. They were stupid. |
Yo jps - religious ridicule
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:04:06 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:53:53 -0400, Another John wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:40:29 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:00:14 -0400, Another John wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:21:47 -0400, Little John wrote: I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar. I'm an admirer of Christians who walk the path. AK47 ownership for some reason doesn't seem to fit with the life Jesus would model. I'm also an admirer of Republicans who walk the path. It's about individual responsibility. There are simply too few of them to make the vision work. You side-stepped that one. I didn't sidestep anything. I don't see Obama as a hypocrite. From what I can tell, he takes his faith seriously and is much closer to acting like a true Christian than any president since Eisenhower. What does the ownership of a weapon have to do with the life Jesus would model? He didn't drive a BMW or buy German screwdrivers either. Hell, his house probably wasn't even air-conditioned. Which of the above is Obama? You've commented frequently enough on the irrationality of religious beliefs. Go for it. I don't claim to be a follower of Jesus but I'm a lot closer to walking his path than most of the idiots who claim him as their lord and savior. Who would Jesus kill with an AK 47? I'm happy that you are proud of following the path of Jesus. Spread the word. It's not a bad path to follow. I've no idea where your silly AK 47 question came from. Who would Jesus kill with a BMW or German screwdrivers? Screwdrivers are used for screwing screws. BMWs are used for transportation. AK47s are used for killing. Well, I don't think Jesus was into any of them, so why the stupid question? -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
That damned Clinton
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:06:17 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:55:24 -0400, Another John wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:41:21 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:35 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:39:13 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:26 -0400, H the K wrote: When Kim Il-sung died in 1994, President Clinton sent a note of condolence to his son, Kim Jong-il, the current dictator, who remembered Clinton's thoughtfulness 15 years ago, and wanted to repay that act of "kindness." Also, as his term was ending, Clinton was involved in ways to improve relations between the U.S. and North Korea. The idiot who succeeded Clinton thought *that* was a bad idea, and now, eight years later, the North Koreans have nuclear bombs. Yet another legacy of Bush the Idiot. If you are right Kim III will drop his nuclear program now, stop threatening Japan and maybe we can bring home the 50,000 guys we have on his southern border. I bet none of them happen What are you talking about? Clinton *did* send a letter of condolence and Clinton wanted to de-escalate the situation between the U.S. and North Korea, and Bush did more or less ignore ways to improve relations with North Korea and, worse, make our relationship with that nation deteriorate even further. That has nothing to do with me being "right." It has everything to do with our failed diplomacy during the Dubya years. What Kim does now after eight years of Bush is unpredictable. He may respect Bill Clinton, but who knows how he feels about the U.S., whether those feelings can be improved, or whether his illness totally clouds his abilities. The point is that we could have been in a better situation vis-a-vis North Korea but for the incomptencies, failures and wrong-headedness of the Bush Administration. You righties keeping wanting to forget that Bush more or less ****ed the world over during his presidency. TEN presidents in a row have ****ed up the Korean problem. Clinton had 8 years to do something and nothing happened. It is like Iraq. That cluster **** has gone on for 18 years. A kid born the day we started that war could be drafted to go fight in it now. As for JPs allegation that Bush ignored Israel, why does he think we are in Iraq in the first place? Oil. That was funny the first time you said it. It's even funnier now. Where's the oil? Don't you know that they (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz) ****ed the whole thing up? They didn't have a plan other than to destabelize the country and attempt to be the country's resource broker. They had long term objectives but didn't have a plan. They were stupid. *They* were stupid? -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:02 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com