Canada's Health Ca a Tragic Failure
 

Does anyone else wonder how the Canadian healthcare system can have
failed so miserably to have removed a babbling and drooling maniac
from polite society? Aren't those dang' Canadians willing to pay to
institutionalize their raving psychotics?

Jus' wondrin', *a propos* of nothing in particular.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

Canada's Health Ca a Tragic Failure
 

Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
Does anyone else wonder how the Canadian healthcare system can have
failed so miserably to have removed a babbling and drooling maniac
from polite society? Aren't those dang' Canadians willing to pay to
institutionalize their raving psychotics?

Jus' wondrin', *a propos* of nothing in particular.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

Well Richard, you can also look at it from the other side: it wouldn't
surprise me if they actually did put him in a mental institution between
2000 and 2008, since these past years he stayed off RBP for longer than
ever before.

As for why he's out now, who knows?

But at least the stay in a Canadian mental institution isn't limited to
what kind of insurance someone has, but based on what kind of a risk
someone is to themselves and society... :-)

I think that it's funny how he's babbling his nonsense to an audience
made up solely of spammers, since no-one basically uses RBP any more.

--
Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://kayaker.nl/

Canada's Health Ca a Tragic Failure
 

"Wilko" wrote in message
...
Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
Does anyone else wonder how the Canadian healthcare system can have
failed so miserably to have removed a babbling and drooling maniac
from polite society? Aren't those dang' Canadians willing to pay to
institutionalize their raving psychotics?

Jus' wondrin', *a propos* of nothing in particular.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

Well Richard, you can also look at it from the other side: it wouldn't
surprise me if they actually did put him in a mental institution between
2000 and 2008, since these past years he stayed off RBP for longer than
ever before.

As for why he's out now, who knows?

But at least the stay in a Canadian mental institution isn't limited to
what kind of insurance someone has, but based on what kind of a risk
someone is to themselves and society... :-)

I think that it's funny how he's babbling his nonsense to an audience made
up solely of spammers, since no-one basically uses RBP any more.

--
Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://kayaker.nl/

I read, I post sometimes - I'm occasionally tempted to block him, but it's
sort of like watching a train wreck.

Cricket

Canada's Health Ca a Tragic Failure
 

Richard's got it right. But the mindless babble also disproves that
old saw that 'with age comes wisdom'. Certainly has failed in
sponsonboys case.

another old and lurking rbp'er. McCloud


On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:05:27 -0700 (PDT), Oci-One Kanubi
wrote:


Does anyone else wonder how the Canadian healthcare system can have
failed so miserably to have removed a babbling and drooling maniac
from polite society? Aren't those dang' Canadians willing to pay to
institutionalize their raving psychotics?

Jus' wondrin', *a propos* of nothing in particular.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

Canada's Health Ca a Tragic Failure
 

On Jul 27, 1:05*pm, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
Does anyone else wonder how the Canadian healthcare system can have
failed so miserably to have removed a babbling and drooling maniac
from polite society? *Aren't those dang' Canadians willing to pay to
institutionalize their raving psychotics?

Jus' wondrin', **a propos* of nothing in particular.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

Today we have an excellent responses from typical GOP "Bush Cheney"
killers. Also Please note that Melissa shows the moral and
intellectual prowess to confront these killers with their "bombproof
roll", a favourite murder technique on rec.boats.paddle.

Check the recent posts. Years ago, many agonizing deaths ago, Slim Jim
Stuart admitted he was wrong for endangering American kids on
rec.boats.paddle

Tim Ingram
http://www.sponsonguy.com


On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, watersprite



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wrote:
Hello Davej, you wrote:
No, my whole idea is to consider some form of handicapping device in
order to practice for a more difficult situation than you are going
to have in a pool.

Something I do for handicapping is to restrict the use of various
limbs in as many different water conditions as I can find. And of
course, practicing rolls without a paddle. This type of handicapping
is, in my view, more practical than trying to figure out how you're
going to fit your boat into the jacuzzi for aerated water practice.


If you think about the types of conditions that would capsize you,
it's good to think in terms of not just water and/or wind conditions,
but of your own potential condition as well. If you're in already
gnarly conditions that you can barely handle when you're feeling
great, what if you become injured? Might you then be more likely to
capsize in the first place? And still need to find a way to bring
yourself back up? Or, of course, end up swimming without the use of
a limb or two?


There are endless scenarios one can come up with to practice, and I
feel that all too often, we only think about practicing as if nothing
could ever happen to us physically, and ultimately, that's just not
realistic. There's always an exception to "bombproofness" lurking,
just waiting for the right moment to strike. Will we be ready? Or
at least as ready as we can be?


--
Melissa



Excellent post Melissa. Of course, "bombproof" is a crazy "cult"
idea.
You have joined the intelligent and now reasonable Slim Jim Stuart:

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:40:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 16 2009 10:40 am
Subject: President Obama Safety Sponsons
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On Jul 14, 12:09 pm, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:


On Jul 14, 8:32 am, riverman wrote:



On Jul 14, 1:35 am, Wilko wrote:
I think it was Yakmom in response to Burntballs, back in the fall of
1999. I'll hold off using the search function for awhile to see what
others remember. :-)
--riverman
Yakmom! Myron, did you know that two of Sheila's sons competed in the
Over the Falls Race at Great Falls of the Potomac during the Potomac
Paddlefest last weekend? Sean did fairly well; Seth (former US Rodeo
Team member in C-1) didn't. If you go to the message board page ofwww.monocacycanoe.orgyou can find some links to a couple of the runs
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Yakmom responded to Slim Jim Stuart's Post below. (Yakmom essentially
believed her own kids were safer in higher buoyancy kayaks in WW,
presumably for less chance of pinning underwater.) Of course
sponsons
are a specific type of strategic buoyancy coupled with integral
water-
ballast, but I had to commend Slim Jim for recognizing his
responsibility for the welfare of others. Tim Ingram
http://www.sponsonguy.com/PresidentO...ySponsons.html

Slim Jim's Post (perhaps rec.boats.paddle's "finest hour"):


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From: Slim Jim
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:53:01 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 21 2000 1:53 am
Subject: To Coach or Not To Coach (kids)
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Need a little help sorting this out.


I have coached juniors slalom, particularly more advanced 12-16 year
olds,
with emphasis on technical technique, bigger water (i.e. Dickerson,
Potomac
Gorge), and physical development training. I haven't coached for a
few
years,
partly due to work, but more due to the issues described below.


Here's the dilemma:
- I can help kids develop elite slalom and WW skills, and fast.
- By the age of 14, some are highly skilled, if with limited "mean"
river
experience.
- Coaching develops skills which get kids competent enough to even
consider
"extreme zone" runs.
- Teen peer group pressure to push for extreme runs is enormous, and
the
definition of extreme continues to mount.
- Safety focus in whitewater is nearly non-existent these days, and
role
modeling only goes so far.
- WW slalom can be richly rewarding for developing youth - exercising
talent,
dedication to hard work, complex brainwork and experience pyramiding,
physical development, travel and intrigue, camaraderie and community,
all very
admirable and noble activities. (keeps em off the street too)
- But out in the falls, kids are now making decisions in mere seconds
to run
extreme risk WW, usually without perspective.
- If they ask me: "Do you think I should run it?" I respond: "Which
would be
more dangerous, running that drop, or having all four of your wisdom
teeth
extracted? And how much time would you want to decide about having
your teeth
pulled?"
- I've already had several kids with "off the course" very close
calls
and
serious injuries.


How do I rationalize coaching - or not coaching for that matter?
Coaching seems like something worthwhile doing, when I'm doing it.
But what would I tell the parents of a kid who dies "off course?"


Jim Stuart

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On Jul 28, 8:44 am, TimIngram wrote:
On Jul 27, 1:05 pm, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:


Wondering what is the effect of "Rate this post" at the bottom of each
message on Google groups. Is it worth using?

Actually I've seen worse at town hall meetings, people who come out to
every meeting that I've been to and go on about the same issue. They
have about as much influence as this fellow.

Canada's Health Ca a Tragic Failure
 

On Aug 3, 9:24*pm, Wm Watt wrote:
On Jul 28, 8:44 am, TimIngram wrote:

On Jul 27, 1:05 pm, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:

Wondering what is the effect of "Rate this post" at the bottom of each
message on Google groups. Is it worth using?

Actually I've seen worse at town hall meetings, people who come out to
every meeting that I've been to and go on about the same issue. They
have about as much influence as this fellow.

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From: TimIngram
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 08:04:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: The Sponson Story: The Killing of Over 1,500 Americans in
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The rec.boats.paddle posters took money from the American Canoe
Association, the major lobby group that killed over 200 American
children: Agonizing deaths like terminal waterboarding. American
children, American soil. Today we have mainstream American media
reporting that OVER 50 per cent of Republicans believe President
Obama is not American, despite a law passed this week in Hawaii
confirming his legal status.

American citizens still die with no single payer health care like the
major countries in the world with the most cost effective health care
(Germany, Canada etc.) Educated people know that single payer health
care has the best care for least cost, due to economies of scale.
Rec.boats.paddle used the GOP strategy of fear to attack sponsons,
just as American health care is now attacked.


The Bush Cheney years were particularly helpful to deny the American
public 50 cent sponsons to get out of the water in 5
seconds. Without sponsons, no judge or jury can get out of the water
to save themselves. Go ahead, test a court with rolling, paddle
floating, canoe over canoe, capistrano flip, paddle a flooded canoe
or
kayak to shore. The judge, jury and the grieving families will not be
amused by these ludicrous ideas called "rescues":
http://www.sponsonguy.com


Rec.boats.paddle today has a few posters who stupidly trot out their
perfidy from time to time, contradicting their own words, as we see
recently. This is a similar response to poor whites in the South
fighting for the Civil War to keep an underclass of slaves so their
own miserable existences were more bearable, if only in comparison.
This is The American political dynamic in a nutshell, essentially The
Sponson Story, in which the most obvious, patented, 50 cent sponsons,
in 5 seconds transform any canoe or kayak into a rescue craft; as
used
by some Coast Guard SAR teams.


My patents are well known to Homeland Security, USCG Admiral Hathaway
(see his letter on "FBI Public Safety Arrests" http://www.sponsonguy.com),
and almost everyone who knows what a canoe or kayak is.


The interesting part is that Americans are generally denied knowledge
of Sponsons, just like health care that most other citizens in the
world enjoy in developed countries; just like a white underclass
wanted slavery to feel better about their own miserable lives.


On rec.boats.paddle this "slavery" dynamic (preventing effective
canoe
and kayak lifesaving by use of dozens of Crazy "Rescues" that don't
work to save human life), has translated into the mass murder of over
1,500 Americans and hundreds of American children, documented by the
US Coast Guard database (BARD). These posters and the American Canoe
Association actually feel they are superior to the dead children who
did not have their "ACA judgment and skills", that in fact are
completely bogus, fraudulent.


See the pictures of 2 ten year old girls saving themselves (and any
other swimmers) in 5 seconds without any instruction or practice:
http://www.sponsonguy.com


No wonder the cowards on rec.boats.paddle are keeping their heads
down
these days!


Tim