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Scott Dickson July 27th 09 03:49 PM

Interesting problem...
 
On Jul 26, 9:36*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. *He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. *No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? *I'll admit it - I'm stumped.


What do you expect from a piece of **** Bass boat?

mgg July 27th 09 04:48 PM

Interesting problem...
 

"Scott Dickson" wrote in message
...
On Jul 26, 9:36 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.


What do you expect from a piece of **** Bass boat?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Harry... is that you?

--Mike



NotNow[_2_] July 27th 09 05:23 PM

Interesting problem...
 
mgg wrote:
"Scott Dickson" wrote in message
...
On Jul 26, 9:36 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.


What do you expect from a piece of **** Bass boat?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Harry... is that you?

--Mike


Just a clone. Harry's almost as childish and nasty, though.

D[_10_] July 28th 09 01:16 AM

Interesting problem...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"J i m" wrote in message
...
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.

Try putting 100 pounds of weight at the bow and see if that helps.



I had a Robalo that handled like that. No matter how I trimmed it, it
porpised and chine walked in turns. I mentioned it to a guy at work who
took it and adjusted the mounting height of the engine on the transom. All
the porposing and other squirrely handling symptoms disappeared.

Eisboch



That was my first thought. You could also try a small jack plate.
Here's an example:

http://www.bobsmachine.com/

Email them - they are very helpful. They told me I wouldn't gain much
on my bass boat (alum w/90HP) so they seem to be honest people and they
have been around a long time.

D[_10_] July 28th 09 01:18 AM

Interesting problem...
 
H the K wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.



The engine is mounted in the wrong set of holes, maybe. It's also a lot
of engine weight for a 20' boat.


Have you ever *seen* any bass boats, WAFA? I've been on a 20' Ranger
with a 250 Verado. How's that for heavy?

D[_10_] July 28th 09 01:21 AM

Interesting problem...
 
NotNow wrote:
mgg wrote:
"Scott Dickson" wrote in message
...
On Jul 26, 9:36 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.


What do you expect from a piece of **** Bass boat?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Harry... is that you?

--Mike

Just a clone. Harry's almost as childish and nasty, though.


That asshole is miles ahead of WAFA. I've had him blocked for months
and I really thought he was gone.

Calif Bill[_2_] July 28th 09 06:17 AM

Interesting problem...
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.


Check to see if there is a hook in the bottom. May have set on a bad
trailer without enough support.



NotNow[_2_] July 28th 09 01:15 PM

Interesting problem...
 
D wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"J i m" wrote in message
...
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.
Try putting 100 pounds of weight at the bow and see if that helps.



I had a Robalo that handled like that. No matter how I trimmed it, it
porpised and chine walked in turns. I mentioned it to a guy at work
who took it and adjusted the mounting height of the engine on the
transom. All the porposing and other squirrely handling symptoms
disappeared.

Eisboch


That was my first thought. You could also try a small jack plate.
Here's an example:

http://www.bobsmachine.com/

Email them - they are very helpful. They told me I wouldn't gain much
on my bass boat (alum w/90HP) so they seem to be honest people and they
have been around a long time.


It could also be a result of weight distribution.

NotNow[_2_] July 28th 09 01:16 PM

Interesting problem...
 
D wrote:
H the K wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.



The engine is mounted in the wrong set of holes, maybe. It's also a
lot of engine weight for a 20' boat.


Have you ever *seen* any bass boats, WAFA? I've been on a 20' Ranger
with a 250 Verado. How's that for heavy?


BWAAAHAAAA!!!! Damn Harry's stupid!

D[_10_] July 29th 09 01:07 AM

Interesting problem...
 
NotNow wrote:
D wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"J i m" wrote in message
...
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
A friend on mine just bought a used Stratos 20' bass boat with a 250
Yamaha Vmax. He called this afternoon and asked me to take a ride
with him because he couldn't get his boat to plane right.

We met up at Webster Lake and took it for a ride after checking
everything over - everything seemed to be working, nothing out of
sorts with the hull.

Got on the water and it's the oddest thing - no matter what trim
position, the boat would porpise (pitch) at speed. Vary the speed and
you'd get a yawing action - trim made no difference. No roll to speak
of.

All the bolts are tight, properly torgued, the prop is symmetrical,
the skeg on the outboard is straight, keel is straight - no obvious
repairs.

Any ideas? I'll admit it - I'm stumped.
Try putting 100 pounds of weight at the bow and see if that helps.


I had a Robalo that handled like that. No matter how I trimmed it,
it porpised and chine walked in turns. I mentioned it to a guy at
work who took it and adjusted the mounting height of the engine on
the transom. All the porposing and other squirrely handling symptoms
disappeared.

Eisboch


That was my first thought. You could also try a small jack plate.
Here's an example:

http://www.bobsmachine.com/

Email them - they are very helpful. They told me I wouldn't gain much
on my bass boat (alum w/90HP) so they seem to be honest people and
they have been around a long time.


It could also be a result of weight distribution.


If you are replying to me, I didn't email them specifically about speed.
I was (an still am) considering a hydraulic plate for shallow water
fishing. I asked about performance improvement and they were very
honest in their opinion.


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