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MrEd July 25th 09 04:17 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). Where are the trailer trim buttons? On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. ???

Wizard of Woodstock July 25th 09 04:49 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). Where are the trailer trim buttons? On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. ???


There might not be a trim position control - you may not have trim and
tilt. There are almost 22 variations of the outboard in that same
model year (one of OMC's more - innovative - marketing decisions).
Some were only positioned at the engine control, some had both engine
and control buttons and some didn't have any.

I have the Selcoc manual for that year and model - if you can give me
the model number, I can tell if it has one or not and where it is
located.

But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

The model number would help though and I can pin it down for you.

Vic Smith July 25th 09 07:19 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:49:20 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..
Unless you think that means right side.

--Vic



Wayne.B July 25th 09 08:04 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:19:39 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..
Unless you think that means right side.


"Right side" is ambiguous depending on which way you are facing; "port
side" is never ambiguous.


Wizard of Woodstock July 26th 09 02:43 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:19:39 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:49:20 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..


The Navy had nothing to do with it.

Unless you think that means right side.


Ha - very funny.

Right is multi-directional - port means left at all times.

MrEd July 26th 09 03:05 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Jul 25, 10:49*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). *Where are the trailer trim buttons? *On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. *I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. *???


There might not be a trim position control - you may not have trim and
tilt. *There are almost 22 variations of the outboard in that same
model year (one of OMC's more - innovative - marketing decisions).
Some were only positioned at the engine control, some had both engine
and control buttons and some didn't have any.

I have the Selcoc manual for that year and model - if you can give me
the model number, I can tell if it has one or not and where it is
located.

But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. *If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

The model number would help though and I can pin it down for you.


Wizard,
Thanks for the reply. The engine model number is E115GLEUA - serial
G 04203369.
A second question, if you have time. First time in the water, the
boat was taking on water. The bilge pump was able to maintain so not
a problem. From the stern, port to starboard, there are four transom
penetrations.
Number one from the port side is the live-well overflow - normal
operation.
Number two is the intake for the live-well aerator pump - normal
operation.
Number three is the bilge drain. (yes, I had the plug in)
Number four appears to be the problem. On the trailer, I can force
water into the opening and the water collects in the bilge. The hose
from this opening runs under the gas tank so I can't see where it
terminates. Could this be the floor drain for the live-well? I
placed a shop vac over the floor drain in the live-well but didn't
feel any suction at the transom. Maybe the hose has come loose or the
elbow is broken?

thanks again,

Wizard of Woodstock July 26th 09 03:33 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:05:38 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

On Jul 25, 10:49*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). *Where are the trailer trim buttons? *On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. *I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. *???


There might not be a trim position control - you may not have trim and
tilt. *There are almost 22 variations of the outboard in that same
model year (one of OMC's more - innovative - marketing decisions).
Some were only positioned at the engine control, some had both engine
and control buttons and some didn't have any.

I have the Selcoc manual for that year and model - if you can give me
the model number, I can tell if it has one or not and where it is
located.

But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. *If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

The model number would help though and I can pin it down for you.


Wizard,
Thanks for the reply. The engine model number is E115GLEUA - serial
G 04203369.


That's what I thought - it doesn't have trim and tilt according to the
manual - E=Evinrude, 115=horsepower, G=Special styling, L=20" shaft,
EU=1997, A=Model run. It it had trim and tilt there would be a T
between the G and L.

That doesn't mean that the engine wasn't retrofitted with trim and
tilt in which case, there wouldn't be an onboard engine trim switch.

Number four appears to be the problem. On the trailer, I can force
water into the opening and the water collects in the bilge. The hose
from this opening runs under the gas tank so I can't see where it
terminates. Could this be the floor drain for the live-well? I
placed a shop vac over the floor drain in the live-well but didn't
feel any suction at the transom. Maybe the hose has come loose or the
elbow is broken?


Probably the case. What model Hydra-Sports is it?

mgg July 26th 09 04:05 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:19:39 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:49:20 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..


The Navy had nothing to do with it.

Unless you think that means right side.


Ha - very funny.

Right is multi-directional - port means left at all times.


But if I'm on the bow looking aft... isn't "port" to my right? What if I'm
in the middle of the boat looking toward the starboard side... wouldn't port
then be behind me? ducking missle shot from the east

--Mike

--Mike



MrEd July 26th 09 04:12 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Jul 25, 9:33*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:05:38 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:



On Jul 25, 10:49*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:


Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). *Where are the trailer trim buttons? *On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. *I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. *???


There might not be a trim position control - you may not have trim and
tilt. *There are almost 22 variations of the outboard in that same
model year (one of OMC's more - innovative - marketing decisions).
Some were only positioned at the engine control, some had both engine
and control buttons and some didn't have any.


I have the Selcoc manual for that year and model - if you can give me
the model number, I can tell if it has one or not and where it is
located.


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. *If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.


The model number would help though and I can pin it down for you.


Wizard,
*Thanks for the reply. *The engine model number is E115GLEUA - serial
G 04203369.


That's what I thought - it doesn't have trim and tilt according to the
manual - E=Evinrude, 115=horsepower, G=Special styling, L=20" shaft,
EU=1997, A=Model run. *It it had trim and tilt there would be a T
between the G and L.

That doesn't mean that the engine wasn't retrofitted with trim and
tilt in which case, there wouldn't be an onboard engine trim switch.

*Number four appears to be the problem. *On the trailer, I can force
water into the opening and the water collects in the bilge. *The hose
from *this opening runs under the gas tank so I can't see where it
terminates. *Could this be the floor drain for the live-well? *I
placed a shop vac over the floor drain in the live-well but didn't
feel any suction at the transom. *Maybe the hose has come loose or the
elbow is broken?


Probably the case. What model Hydra-Sports is it?


Z-280

The hose runs forward beneath the gas tank so any repair would
necessitate the removal of the tank. Guess I could plug the bilge and
flood the live-well to see if water accumulates in the bilge. Seems
like the best solution is to just plug the transom opening and then
drain the live-well through the bilge once on the trailer.

thanks again for your time,

Wizard of Woodstock July 26th 09 04:34 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:12:54 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Z-280


Bass boat right?

Actually, that might not be that bad a repair, but you would need time
to remove the tank - I believe it's located right behind the seats
under the rear deck. You would have to remove the seats to get at it,
but once those are out, it's a fairly straight removal and replace
job.

Yogi of Woodstock July 26th 09 04:38 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:05:47 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:19:39 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:49:20 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..


The Navy had nothing to do with it.

Unless you think that means right side.


Ha - very funny.

Right is multi-directional - port means left at all times.


But if I'm on the bow looking aft... isn't "port" to my right? What if I'm
in the middle of the boat looking toward the starboard side... wouldn't port
then be behind me? ducking missle shot from the east


The port side is always the port side at any attitude - backwards,
forwards, sideways, upside down.

Right can be relative. For instance, if you are facing directly East,
you right is facing South. If you are facing North, your right is
facing East. In a boat, port is always on your left no matter where
the boat is pointing.

MrEd July 26th 09 04:55 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Jul 25, 10:34*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:12:54 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Z-280


Bass boat right?

Actually, that might not be that bad a repair, but you would need time
to remove the tank - I believe it's located right behind the seats
under the rear deck. You would have to remove the seats to get at it,
but once those are out, it's a fairly straight removal and replace
job.


Correct, it's a bass boat. Seats wouldn't be in the way - there's a
full width hatch that exposes 90% of the tank. Removal would require
the tank to be tilted forward and then it would come straight up.
Sounds like a wintertime job.

Wizard of Woodstock July 26th 09 05:13 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:55:43 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

On Jul 25, 10:34*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:12:54 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Z-280


Bass boat right?

Actually, that might not be that bad a repair, but you would need time
to remove the tank - I believe it's located right behind the seats
under the rear deck. You would have to remove the seats to get at it,
but once those are out, it's a fairly straight removal and replace
job.


Correct, it's a bass boat. Seats wouldn't be in the way - there's a
full width hatch that exposes 90% of the tank. Removal would require
the tank to be tilted forward and then it would come straight up.
Sounds like a wintertime job.


Ah - different deck configuration then.

Rangers, Stratos and Tritons are a little different - you pull the
seats, remove four bolts and you can pull it right out from under the
deck.

You're right though - it's definitely a winter time job.

mgg July 26th 09 06:30 AM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:05:47 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:19:39 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:49:20 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..

The Navy had nothing to do with it.

Unless you think that means right side.

Ha - very funny.

Right is multi-directional - port means left at all times.


But if I'm on the bow looking aft... isn't "port" to my right? What if I'm
in the middle of the boat looking toward the starboard side... wouldn't
port
then be behind me? ducking missle shot from the east


The port side is always the port side at any attitude - backwards,
forwards, sideways, upside down.

Right can be relative. For instance, if you are facing directly East,
you right is facing South. If you are facing North, your right is
facing East. In a boat, port is always on your left no matter where
the boat is pointing.


I wuz just joshin'. However, your last sentence is incorrect , isn't it? In
a boat, port is always to the left as viewed from the stern. If viewed from
the bow, port is on the right. Isn't that true? How about the red light is
the port side, and the green light is the starboard side? :-

--Mike



Yogi of Woodstock July 26th 09 12:42 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:30:55 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:05:47 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:19:39 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:49:20 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


But if you want to take a look, the trim button on those that did have
the trim button, it would be on the port side, just below the engine
cowl towards the front of the engine. Other than that, it has to be on
the engine control. If there isn't one there, you don't have trim and
tilt.

"Port side?"
Sounds like the Navy trained you well..

The Navy had nothing to do with it.

Unless you think that means right side.

Ha - very funny.

Right is multi-directional - port means left at all times.

But if I'm on the bow looking aft... isn't "port" to my right? What if I'm
in the middle of the boat looking toward the starboard side... wouldn't
port
then be behind me? ducking missle shot from the east


The port side is always the port side at any attitude - backwards,
forwards, sideways, upside down.

Right can be relative. For instance, if you are facing directly East,
you right is facing South. If you are facing North, your right is
facing East. In a boat, port is always on your left no matter where
the boat is pointing.


I wuz just joshin'. However, your last sentence is incorrect , isn't it? In
a boat, port is always to the left as viewed from the stern. If viewed from
the bow, port is on the right. Isn't that true? How about the red light is
the port side, and the green light is the starboard side? :-


If viewed from the bow towards the stern, the port side is still the
port side and the starboard side is still the starboard side - that
doesn't change.

Richard Casady July 26th 09 05:04 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT), MrEd
wrote:

Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). Where are the trailer trim buttons? On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. ???


I can't believe I am reading this. If they are there at all a quick
search cannot fail to find them. How long can it take to search the
outside of a motor? One minute?

Casady

billgran July 26th 09 05:13 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 


Just bought a used Hydrasport with an Evinrude 115 Intruder engine
(1996). Where are the trailer trim buttons? On my old Merc 150 they
were on the bottom right side of the engine pan but I find no buttons
in a similar location on the Evinrude. I called a local Evinrude
repair shop and the guy agreed that's where the buttons should be.
Can't feature this setup not having motor trim buttons somewhere. ???



If it is a 1996 engine, the trim button is on the left (port) side of the
motor pan.

Cross-flow V-4's have the trim button on the stb. side and the looper 60°
V-4 motors have the buttons on the port side. That is a quick way to tell
the motor styles apart.

Bill Grannis
service manager



Vic Smith July 26th 09 07:32 PM

Evinrude 115 Intruder
 
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:14:39 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:13:58 -0400, "Billgran"
wrote:

If it is a 1996 engine, the trim button is on the left (port) side of the
motor pan.


Hey Vic - you paying attention here?


No, missed that. This port/starboard stuff sort of comes naturally to
me. Though I've been out over 40 years, I'm just getting over calling
a staircase a ladder.
IMO the port/starboard rule should apply to cars, carts, horses and
anything else that moves and has a front that looks different than its
rear.
Don't know how many times somebody said "You'll find the thingamajig
on the left of the engine" only to be asked "Is that the left while
standing in front of the car and facing the engine, or from the
driver's position?"
Even "the drivers side" can fall down, since there's left and right
hand drive.
Port/starboard always works. Even for a horse, or a chicken.
Think horsemen use the term "off side" but I don't know whether
that's port or starboard.
If they said port or starboard I would know. Every time. Even if it
was a unicorn.
Reminds me of a physics prof I had who was all pro-metric and sung its
praises as being so much better than any other measurement.
When he got on that real heavy in class once, I asked if he felt so
strongly about that would he agree to changing time measurements
to metric. Clocks and calendars.
He acted like I was crazy.
Sonofabitch gave me a B despite my acing everything in the class.
Wondered a few times if the low grade was because of my metrics
challenge or because the current Miss Chicago - who always sat next to
me in that class - was sweet on me.
The prof and her were Greeks and it was a tight community, and she
told me they were family friends. And protective.
He probably gave her an A, and despite looking like a goddess she
twern't too bright.
If I wasn't married I might have given him reason to flunk me.
Politics. It was a lot more fun then.

--Vic


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