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cost of running a single vs double engine boat
any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat?
total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... I have a Regal 277XL with twin 180 Merc Cruisers. It's a heavy boat, so twins needed if you want speed. Consumption only high when I get it in the 40 to 45 mph. Single engine fine for smaller boats. So in a nutshell, heavy boat, twins. Light boats, single. Eddie |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
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cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
wf3h wrote:
On Jul 25, 8:38 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - thanks all appreciate the responses That's Harry, never miss a chance to sling **** like a circus monkey about things he can't afford. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Jul 25, 8:38*am, H the K wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. *That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. *I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. *Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. *One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - thanks all appreciate the responses |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K
wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
wf3h wrote:
any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... My experience is that a single is easier to maintain, so it is more likely to be more reliable. It is in the center, as twins are out at the edges. Easier to get to everything. One of everything instead of two. Cheaper to run, cheaper and easier to maintain. As for handling in close quarters, twins are better, but there isn't much I can't do with my single engine. A thruster would fix that, but it's an added complication. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Jul 25, 11:55*am, H the K wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. *That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. *I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. *Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. *One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach.. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. I have gone offshore in my Tolman with single 90 hp yammie but I also have a 9.9 hp kicker pull start with separate fuel tank just in case. The 9.9 can push the light Tolman up on a plane at 9 kts with 4 aboard in calm water. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. I have gone offshore in my Tolman with single 90 hp yammie but I also have a 9.9 hp kicker pull start with separate fuel tank just in case. The 9.9 can push the light Tolman up on a plane at 9 kts with 4 aboard in calm water. Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. I have gone offshore in my Tolman with single 90 hp yammie but I also have a 9.9 hp kicker pull start with separate fuel tank just in case. The 9.9 can push the light Tolman up on a plane at 9 kts with 4 aboard in calm water. Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Will Rogers never met Hairy. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. I have gone offshore in my Tolman with single 90 hp yammie but I also have a 9.9 hp kicker pull start with separate fuel tank just in case. The 9.9 can push the light Tolman up on a plane at 9 kts with 4 aboard in calm water. I can see the eastern and western shore of the bay from the middle of the bay. If my single outboard craps out (unlikely, since it is a four stroke yamaha, not an unreliable two stroke eTec from the engines labeled EVINRUDE), I can get a tow from a passing boat or call SeaTow on the cell or on one of my VHF radios, since I have a fixed VHF and a portable. I'm not knocking your having a backup motor. It's a good idea. Tom has two 200+ backup motors... I think I read somewhere SW Tom is in the running for Saudi Arabia's Man of the Year. Makes me warm all over than 4000 Americans have died so Tom can burn 25+ gallons an hour of gasoline refined from Saudi crude. No wonder he doesn't believe in global warming, eh? |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Jul 25, 12:39*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. *That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. *I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. *Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. *One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 25, 12:39 pm, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. I have gone offshore in my Tolman with single 90 hp yammie but I also have a 9.9 hp kicker pull start with separate fuel tank just in case. The 9.9 can push the light Tolman up on a plane at 9 kts with 4 aboard in calm water. I can see the eastern and western shore of the bay from the middle of the bay. If my single outboard craps out (unlikely, since it is a four stroke yamaha, not an unreliable two stroke eTec from the engines labeled EVINRUDE), I can get a tow from a passing boat or call SeaTow on the cell or on one of my VHF radios, since I have a fixed VHF and a portable. I'm not knocking your having a backup motor. It's a good idea. Tom has two 200+ backup motors... I think I read somewhere SW Tom is in the running for Saudi Arabia's Man of the Year. Makes me warm all over than 4000 Americans have died so Tom can burn 25+ gallons an hour of gasoline refined from Saudi crude. No wonder he doesn't believe in global warming, eh? Harry: Since you dun boated in these parts, you will know that in the Big Bend of the FL Gulf, if you can see land, you are about to hit bottom. This means that most of my sailing and a lot of my going anywhere in the Tolman is kinda far out. Fortunately, the only places the primary 90 hp has quit has been upriver where ti got clogged with weeds. Miles offshore, if I recall. I use to fish once in a while with a fellow in a Gainesville fishing club. Most of their salt water fishing was on your side of florida. There are parts of the bay here that are very shallow even a mile or two offshore. Weird. You're way out there, relatively speaking, and you are in two to three feet of water. Fortunately the bottom in most places is sandy-muddy. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Lu Powell wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. D. A 21-footer is a near-perfect sized boat for Chesapeake Bay and its environs, and also for my occasional trailer hauls down to Virginia Beach. E. If your son the cop is driving that barge, you must be subsidizing the gas... at cruise it has to be burning between 25 and 30 gallons an hour... hehehe. Lunacy. Well, fools and their money. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. I have gone offshore in my Tolman with single 90 hp yammie but I also have a 9.9 hp kicker pull start with separate fuel tank just in case. The 9.9 can push the light Tolman up on a plane at 9 kts with 4 aboard in calm water. Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Will Rogers never met Hairy. I don't make fun of skilled brewmasters or winemakers...but Loogy? One can only imagine the **** he brews. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
H the K wrote:
A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. Harry, Why do you step outside and snap a photo of the hour meter? -- Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
"H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
H the K wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Jealous? |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Does posting mindless crap make you feel smarter? It's not working. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
"D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. LOL.. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Jul 25, 12:29*pm, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 25, 11:55 am, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:38:03 -0400, H the K wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Good question. There are safety aspects to twin ownership - mainly having a spare engine available in particular if you are planning on running any distance off shore. I think you were looking at a boat in the Long Island area if I recall. *That part of the world, twins if you are getting offshore a little ways. With respect to costs, well two times everything in terms of maintenance. *I've got triple ETECS, three times everything in terms of costs. *Only makes sense. Complexity? Not really - seperate engines are generally seperate systems with the exception of the electrical stuff - that can get complicated with more than one engine depending on how the boat is wired, but usually seperate systems. It's a trade off in a number of areas - safety, convienence, speed/weight ratios, etc. *One more of anything is going to cost you additional money. Triple eTecs...to assure one will be running when it is time to head for port. Yep. Then again, I can afford to run mine more than 25 hours a summer and not have to worry about paying my loan payment on a over priced 21' center console with a bimini top. A. I'm well over the 100 hour mark for this season. B. Sorry, I don't "finance" boat purchases. My last Parker had no load, and I used some of the proceeds from the sale of that one to pay cash for the current Parker. C. Speaking of overpriced center consoles, consider a 33-footer that needs THREE 200+ outboards. It's too big to be a trailer boat, unless you are crazy, and it sure as hell ain't a flats boat. For what you paid for that gashog you could have bought a really nice diesel-powered boat. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Maybe someone can lend me a shootin' iron. I hear the locals are darn nasty in those parts....must be too much sun, or too much swamp water. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: so he makes fun of zymurgy.- what about syzygy? Wow - never thought I'd see the day when brewing and invariant theory were mentioned to two back-to-back sentences. :) |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:34:38 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: any idea of the cost of ownership of a single vs double engine boat? total maintenance, gas consumption? benefits or penalties? THanks all.... Others have pointed out the reality of increased operating expenses.... what do you get for your money? Redundancy and the increased likeliness that you'll get back to the dock under your own power..... And of course when you're operating offshore or on other exposed water, engine reliability is not just a matter of convenience, there's also a big safety factor. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Maybe someone can lend me a shootin' iron. I hear the locals are darn nasty in those parts....must be too much sun, or too much swamp water. Atlanta is sorta like the wild west, but a lot hotter, and with fewer memorable characters. The big issue in the upcoming municipal elections there is...crime. Loogy must prowl the streets at night. Got back from a day of boating on the Patuxent River and environs. Lovely day, most of it. We were down near its mouth of the Pax when a fairly nasty thunderstorm popped up, complete with a bit of hail. Just after it started, we ducked under a highway bridge for about 15 minutes, and when the storm passed we headed back north to a boat ramp at a little area called Hallowing Point just south of Benedict Bridge. About 6.5 hours of cruising around, burned about 13 gallons of gas. I hear it takes that much gas just to get triple eTecs started. :) -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
H the K wrote:
Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Maybe someone can lend me a shootin' iron. I hear the locals are darn nasty in those parts....must be too much sun, or too much swamp water. Atlanta is sorta like the wild west, but a lot hotter, and with fewer memorable characters. The big issue in the upcoming municipal elections there is...crime. Loogy must prowl the streets at night. Got back from a day of boating on the Patuxent River and environs. Lovely day, most of it. We were down near its mouth of the Pax when a fairly nasty thunderstorm popped up, complete with a bit of hail. Just after it started, we ducked under a highway bridge for about 15 minutes, and when the storm passed we headed back north to a boat ramp at a little area called Hallowing Point just south of Benedict Bridge. About 6.5 hours of cruising around, burned about 13 gallons of gas. I hear it takes that much gas just to get triple eTecs started. :) Forgot to mention that Benedict was where the Brits landed in 1814, making it the only place after the Revolutionary war to have been invaded by troops from a foreign country. Or so one of the signs there says, among other things. Even has a sentence or two in wikipedia: War of 1812 In the War of 1812, Benedict was the location where the British Army led by General Robert Ross landed on August 14, 1814, after having fought fierce naval battles with American naval forces in the Patuxent. From Benedict, the British began their march to Washington, D.C., ultimately burning that city before finally being stopped in the Battle of Baltimore. -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. Pompano Beach? All the Canadian geezers hang out in Naples. You have to have some real money to stay there, dummy. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Maybe someone can lend me a shootin' iron. I hear the locals are darn nasty in those parts....must be too much sun, or too much swamp water. Have your buddy jps mail you one, SFB. You will need it in that town. |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
"H the K" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Maybe someone can lend me a shootin' iron. I hear the locals are darn nasty in those parts....must be too much sun, or too much swamp water. Atlanta is sorta like the wild west, but a lot hotter, and with fewer memorable characters. The big issue in the upcoming municipal elections there is...crime. Loogy must prowl the streets at night. Got back from a day of boating on the Patuxent River and environs. Lovely day, most of it. We were down near its mouth of the Pax when a fairly nasty thunderstorm popped up, complete with a bit of hail. Just after it started, we ducked under a highway bridge for about 15 minutes, and when the storm passed we headed back north to a boat ramp at a little area called Hallowing Point just south of Benedict Bridge. About 6.5 hours of cruising around, burned about 13 gallons of gas. I hear it takes that much gas just to get triple eTecs started. :) Forgot to mention that Benedict was where the Brits landed in 1814, making it the only place after the Revolutionary war to have been invaded by troops from a foreign country. Or so one of the signs there says, among other things. Even has a sentence or two in wikipedia: War of 1812 In the War of 1812, Benedict was the location where the British Army led by General Robert Ross landed on August 14, 1814, after having fought fierce naval battles with American naval forces in the Patuxent. From Benedict, the British began their march to Washington, D.C., ultimately burning that city before finally being stopped in the Battle of Baltimore. I believe that British Fleet and General Ross sailed from Halifax to begin that campaign. The results of that Washington burning...has some bragging that it is the oldest occuopied 'executive mansion' in North America. http://lt.gov.ns.ca/en/government-house.aspx ....and an interesting story of how the former Governer of New Hampshire trippled Nova Scotia's population and built the Lt. Governors House.. http://www.blupete.com/Hist/NovaScot...Part4/Ch06.htm |
cost of running a single vs double engine boat
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Harry is just too damned stupid and narcissistic to realize that not everyone wants just what he has, and that because some people have the money, and the desire to do things other than what Harry does, that doesn't mean they are fools. One of my hobbies is brewing beer, for instance. Harry doesn't have the smarts or the will to get off of his fat ass to do so, so he makes fun of zymurgy. Bull*hit! You cook up batches of 'shine' and grow that 'Georgia Special' crop out back. Unlike Loogy, I'm not what you would call a "drinker." A few beers, a few "girlie drinks" (margaritas, for example) a year, and that's it for me. I do make one hell of a homemade lemonade or limeade, though... :) Can you imagine how awful anything Loogy brews up has to be, and how dangerous it would be to drink it? Blech. I can visualize him swillin' from a 2 gallon jug..... you know, the kind with the finger hole at the top and you throw over your shoulder to support while the white lightnin' flows out. I wouldn't take a chance on his 'home brewing'. You "visualize" more than a sane adult should. Get in your Rav4 and go for a ride. There is life outside of Usenet, dummy! Mmmm yeah, maybe I'll trip on down to Pompano Beach, FL I imagine it's a lovely place this time of year. I wouldn't go there alone... :) -- Maybe someone can lend me a shootin' iron. I hear the locals are darn nasty in those parts....must be too much sun, or too much swamp water. Atlanta is sorta like the wild west, but a lot hotter, and with fewer memorable characters. The big issue in the upcoming municipal elections there is...crime. Loogy must prowl the streets at night. Got back from a day of boating on the Patuxent River and environs. Lovely day, most of it. We were down near its mouth of the Pax when a fairly nasty thunderstorm popped up, complete with a bit of hail. Just after it started, we ducked under a highway bridge for about 15 minutes, and when the storm passed we headed back north to a boat ramp at a little area called Hallowing Point just south of Benedict Bridge. About 6.5 hours of cruising around, burned about 13 gallons of gas. I hear it takes that much gas just to get triple eTecs started. :) Forgot to mention that Benedict was where the Brits landed in 1814, making it the only place after the Revolutionary war to have been invaded by troops from a foreign country. Or so one of the signs there says, among other things. Even has a sentence or two in wikipedia: War of 1812 In the War of 1812, Benedict was the location where the British Army led by General Robert Ross landed on August 14, 1814, after having fought fierce naval battles with American naval forces in the Patuxent. From Benedict, the British began their march to Washington, D.C., ultimately burning that city before finally being stopped in the Battle of Baltimore. I believe that British Fleet and General Ross sailed from Halifax to begin that campaign. The results of that Washington burning...has some bragging that it is the oldest occuopied 'executive mansion' in North America. http://lt.gov.ns.ca/en/government-house.aspx ...and an interesting story of how the former Governer of New Hampshire trippled Nova Scotia's population and built the Lt. Governors House.. http://www.blupete.com/Hist/NovaScot...Part4/Ch06.htm Not much to Benedict these days, if there ever was. Used to be a decent restaurant in Benedict proper, but I think it was "hurricaned-out" a couple of years ago. Now, there's just a joint sort of restaurant remaining. Boatyard or two, with a couple of marinas. Beyond quaint. -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
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